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Sheila 08-31-2009 05:21 AM

Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Just trying to get a feel for some of us who are "lifers' on Herceptin....and how many years and if you find you are having any problems from it...I dont think this drug was intended for long term use when it first came out....we are changing life expectancy stats and therefore staying on this drug indefinately.

I hav been on Herceptin over 6 years, no breaks, no problems.

Next....

schoolteacher 08-31-2009 07:21 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Shelia,

I am glad you are doing this role call. I have to make my mind up in February 2010 about stopping or staying on Herceptin. It will be my second year. I hope the paper about one year verses two years comes out before this time.

I am stage IV.

Amelia

Colleen007 08-31-2009 07:25 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
I've been on it since December of 2005. No problems other than the persistent runny nose!

Colleen

Lori R 08-31-2009 09:18 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Great Idea,
I have been on Herceptin since my initial chemo began in 11/2007.

Nearing 2 years. No issues other than the drippy nose.

Lori

sarah 08-31-2009 10:19 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
I've been on Herceptin for 5 years. I think this may be my final year although I was originally told it might be for life.
I've had more side effects from the AI Femara.
I'll feel vulnerable without it.
sarah

nitewind 08-31-2009 10:54 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
I was only on it for one year. This post is interesting, I'll be keeping an eye on it.
What is the main reason for staying on herceptin? Just curious.

Del 08-31-2009 07:42 PM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
I've been on Herceptin for just over 2 years, since May 2007, which isn't very long compared to some warriors. No problems with my heart, only side effect seems to be occasional fevers after infusion, and weak fingernails. It's working wonderfully, and I'm praying that the miracle continues!

GemmaG 09-01-2009 05:55 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Hi Sheila,
I have been on Herceptin (BFF) since April 2006. No problemo at all. I'm on weekly Herceptin since 2007 and up to now and it's keeping me going and going...
Love ya!
Hugs,
Gemma

Karen Wheel 09-01-2009 06:39 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
I'm with Nitewind - I am curious what the docs are saying in the US (or world) on taking Hercepting long term - and why.
I am only 5 months in - but my docs in Italy are saying it is a 1 year deal here.
Is there something that triggers the doctors to tell you that you need it for another year???

Thanks - Karen

Colleen007 09-01-2009 08:49 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Karen and Susan,

I believe that the standard is for 1 year of Herceptin if your cancer is caught early. Those of us who have been on it for the long-term appear to all be Stage IV. Hope this helps to clarify things.

Colleen

Midwest Alice 09-01-2009 09:07 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Glad you are doing the roll call. The plan is to be on Herceptin for a long time. I am on month 14 and hope to be a very long term Herecptin user.

I had an initial drop on my MUGA score of 10 points but, my onc put me on Enalaperal which brought my MUGA up 5 points. So I'm still up 5 points and on Herceptin...I do thank God for this drug!!!

My next MUGA is in Oct. I have lost 30 lbs. and feel better. I hope to bring it up a few points.

Whonoze 09-01-2009 10:24 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Stage IV. Have been on since 2/07, when I began chemo. NED since then. Plan is to stay on for good. Runny nose, bad nails, vaginal dryness and occasional foot cramps. Otherwise, feel totally great! The side effects
add up to a big nothing compared to what this wonderful drug is doing for me!!! I never even think about them.

I am grateful every single day. I'm hoping soon there will be a large enough population to study the long term effects.

Sheila 09-01-2009 12:07 PM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Coleen said it perfectly...some of us Metastatic BC patients, will be on it indefinately...or until it quits working or something better comes out. I still need the chemo, but at least the herceptin is confining it to my nodes for now!

chrisy 09-01-2009 12:18 PM

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To further clarify,

I think your original question, and the issue of long-term Herceptin is really more directed towards those with Stage IV vs. adjuvant (early stage).

CourtneyL 09-01-2009 12:41 PM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
I don't know if I qualify as a long-term user. I was diagnosed with metastatic disease at the outset in April 2008. I have been on Herceptin ever since. No side effects to speak of. I've had progression on Herceptin (brain mets) so I've also added Tykerb and Xeloda but still keeping the Vitamin H in the cocktail since it seems to be controlling things from the neck down.

mamacze 09-01-2009 06:31 PM

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Hi Sheila and all of our "Lifers"!
I have been on Herceptin for 5 1/2 years - stage 4 - no problems other than the runny nose and mouth canker sores, aches, etc.
Small price to pay for the wonderful benefit of a good life.
Love Kim from CT

Joan M 09-02-2009 08:33 AM

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Sheila,

Geez, I'm a newbie.

I took Herceptin off label weekly for one year (2004-2005) without problems when I was first diagnosed with early stage bc in fall 2003.

I resumed the drug when the cancer spread to my lung in spring 2007. But was taken off it once for three months when my LVEF dropped more than 10% (which apparently is the protocol) in fall 2007, even though it was still above 50% (it dropped from 70% to 56%).

Other than that, I haven't had any other problems.

Joan

StephN 09-02-2009 11:11 AM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
My debut with good old Vitamin H began in January of 2002 when I was found to be stage IV. I had it weekly with my Taxol and Navelbine for 7 months. Then changed to Herceptin only when my tumors were deemed "cleared and in remission." I stayed on that plus Zometa on the 3-week schedule for a couple of years, then reduced the Zometa over time.

It was difficult to determine what the side effects actually were from the Herceptin as I started it when still recovering from my adjuvent treatments and had it with two other harsh drugs.

Last summer I had a 9 point drop in my MUGA, so took a break, and have not yet resumed taking Herceptin. My Muga bounced back, so that is not the reason I am still off the drug. It is my choice for now after over 7 years of taking this drug. (There is another thread where going off long-term Herceptin is discussed.)

Now that I am well off the Herceptin and years out from the hard chemos, I can better assess what side effects were actually due to the Herceptin itself.

The main improvements that I have noticed (and in order) are increased energy; stronger, less brittle finger and toe nails; WAY fewer cramps in legs, hand and feet; and lessened "allergy" symptoms.

Plus I believe that I had more stress from the constant visits to the cancer center than I was admitting. That was part of my monthly routine, and having changed that, I am more productive in other areas of my life.

Sandra in GA 09-02-2009 12:02 PM

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Thank you "lifers" for sharing your experiences about Herceptin. It gives us "early stagers" hope and information about what to expect if and when we become one of you.

Love to all......

Sandra

Nancy L 09-02-2009 01:59 PM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
I have been on Herceptin since December 2005. As of March 2009, I am also taking Tykerb. Herceptin side effects were runny nose and brittle fingernails. I have found Tykerb much more difficult to tolerate but since the drug combo appears to be working, I will deal.

Barbara H. 09-02-2009 04:38 PM

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Hi,
I have been on Herceptin since June, 2004. I currently receive it with the T-DM1 trial. It is an easy drug for me.
Barbara H.

Andrea Barnett Budin 09-05-2009 12:29 PM

Just saw this & had to report in...
 
Orig dx in '95. See my signature for details, please. Then, in '98 the bc recurred throughout my liver. My onc gravely told me that what I had was "INCURABLE, INOPERABLE... AND YOU WILL BE ON LONG TERM CHEMOTHERAPY... FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE". He had known me and Paul for 3 yrs. He was clearly morose having to give us this news.

But as it turned out, I asked to be tested for HER2, as Paul and I had been keeping up on the latest since '95. I was in fact 80% positive, as they stated it back in the day. Herceptin was still in clinical trials (my recurrence was in Aug of '98). The FDA fast-tracked the drug making it available to metastatic bc patients September 28, 1998. IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

And so Doc Slamon saved my life! And after 9 mnths of Taxotere hell, long term chemotherapy became monoclonal antibody therapy, which is not as horrid as one would imagine, though potent, toxic and potentially a lot of bad things. For me, it was a life saver.

Now, my onc has taken me off Vitamin H, believing those old cancer cells are no longer in my body and that I might be building up a tolerance to H (after 10 yrs). So we are giving my bod a break.

I HAVE BEEN OFF HERCEPTIN SINCE JULY '08! I REMAIN STABLE.

Ev 3 mnth full panel of bld tests, including of course TMs. Ev 6 mnths CT scans.

I PRAY ALL THE TIME THAT MY SISTERS AND BROS WILL REACH THE POINT OF REACHING NO NEED FOR OTHER CHEMO AT THE VERY LEAST.

I BELIEVE FERVENTLY THAT FOCUSING ON THE HIDEOUS STATISTICS IS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH. IT REACHES A POINT, I THINK, WHERE WE CAN BE SELF-PROPHESIZING, BELIEVING IN THE PRECARIOUSNESS OF OUR SITUATION.

IF EVERYONE STOPPED BUYING INTO THE STATISTICS, I THINK THE STATS WOULD CHANGE.

CAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE ENERGY OF THOUGHTS. OUR BODIES HEAR EVERYTHING WE THINK, SAY OR WHISPER. WE CAN PROGRAM OUR MINDS TO GIVE SPECIFIC, HEALING ORDERS TO OUR BODY.

THE UNIVERSE SENSES THE ENERGY WE ARE EMITTING AND RESPONDS -- IN KIND. SO WE CAN GET THE UNIVERSE TO ASSIST US IN ATTAINING OUR DESIRED DESTINY.

THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART.

I MEDITATE. I USE GUIDED IMAGERY, SEEING MYSELF FAR, FAR INTO THE FUTURE. SEPT 3, MY 65TH BDAY, I REACHED ONE OF THOSE GOALS. GETTING FROM AGE 50 (AT ORIG DX) TO MEDICARE! IT IS SURREAL. HERE I AM!

NEXT JANUARY, 2010 , I TRUST I WILL REACH ANOTHER LONG TERM GOAL. ATTENDING THE BAT MITZVAH OF MY OLDEST GRANDCHILD. I ADDED THAT DREAM WHEN SHE WAS 1 YR OLD. YES, HAVING OCCASIONAL THOUGHTS THAT I MIGHT NOT MAKE IT TILL HER 1ST BDAY, YET IMMEDIATELY REPLACING SUCH IDEAS AND VISIONS WITH STRONG, TENACIOUS, POSITIVE ONES.

I HAVE TAKEN MY LONGGGGG LIST OF SUPPLEMENTS (FROM MY ONCOLOGIST/NUTRITIONIST -- I HAVE 5 ONCS ON *MY TEAM*, BENEFITING FROM MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES) SINCE OCT. OF '98, 1 MNTH INTO TAXOTERE. MY NUT ONC, WHOM I ADORE, BELIEVES THAT WHEN YOU ARE ON CHEMO, THAT'S WHEN YOU MOST NEED THE HELP OF SUPPLEMENTS, TO BOOST YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM, TO FIGHT OFF FREE RADICALS AND CANSER PROLIFERATION, TO MAKE YOUR HEART STRONGER, ENERGIZE YOU, ETC., ETC.

I STILL TAKE MY DOZENS OF SUPPLEMENTS DAILY, EVERY DAY, NO MATTER WHAT, AS IF THEY ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. I DRINK 10 GLASSES OF WATER DAY.

I PRAY FOR YOU ALL DAILY AS WELL. CAUSE I TRULY LOVE YOU ALL. I ADMIRE EVERY ONE OF YOU. I SEND YOU ENERGY FULL OF STRENGTH, COURAGE AND DETERMINATION... YOU ARE EACH UNIQUE AND YET ALL TOTALLY AWESOME. YOU, AND YOUR CAREGIVERS. I APPLAUD YOU. YOU ARE AMAZING!
ANDI

nitewind 09-05-2009 04:43 PM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
Andrea, your story amazes me and the fact that you are 65 amazes me even more. You are one beautiful lady.
God Bless

Sherryg683 09-05-2009 09:25 PM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
I'm a lifer here...been on Herceptin since Dec, 05. My mugas are all great, so no problem with heart. I just seem to have sinus issues. Sometimes, I have no problems at all, then others I will feel bad for a day or two. Nothing terrible though...sherry

Andrea Barnett Budin 09-06-2009 08:53 AM

Dry nose, clogged sinuses...
 
Hi! Herceptin gave me a really dry nose. I used vaseline ea night.

And -- AYR -- simply saline -- sprayed in nostrils seemed to give my sinuses relief.

The dry cough, esp at night, was relieved w/Priolosec, over the counter, bought by the bushel from Costco.

Try these and see... I'm just saying...

fullofbeans 09-11-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Roll Call Long Time Herceptin Users
 
On Herceptine since late 2006 (NED since Jan 2007) so not far off 3 years of the drug..

Runny nose and temperature on day of IV all else okay.


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