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StephN 08-11-2008 04:52 PM

HYPOCRITE is right!
 
I KNEW Edwards was a hypocrite when he talked about how "green" he is - living in a gazillion square foot house that must suck up as much energy as my whole street!

Those with nearly unlimited wealth seem to always lose sight of reality somewhere along the way.

"Oh, baby - Elizabeth, you know I will support you every way I know how and take care of the kids should you not make it. However, now I am on the way to make a very social conscious video, and will see you later."

Kiss, kiss, while stroking her thinned out hair.

Faked smile as John imagines what will happen after the video session. . .

Diane H 08-11-2008 04:58 PM

It is sad thing to have happened. And as I always say in these situations, celebrity or not, it is their private business and hopefully they will be left alone to work it out as they see fit. I wish them peace.

karen z 08-11-2008 05:07 PM

It could have been (and should have been) their private business. Unfortunately, Edwards did his best to make it ours when he made a wrong turn on his way (more than one time) to the White House. I wish the family peace as well, especially the innocent ones.

Colleens_Husband 08-11-2008 05:31 PM

[rant on]

I am so disappointed in the performance of that sacless slug, John Edwards. To me, one buffoon can seriously undermine a lot of work that a lot of caregivers have worked so hard to achieve. There are a lot of men who come here and 'get it'. Bill, Joe, and Eric come to mind but I am sure there are more. Good people who understood the "in sickness and in health" part of their marriage vows. And now, should good women who are fighting bravely to take back their lives from this dreaded disease start to worry if their spouses are being faithful or not? Let me assure you, if you married a man, as opposed to an adult boy, you have nothing to worry about. We remain faithful to you because we promised we would and we love you more than anything........., no......., more than everything. Men are better than this. John Edwards is no man.

As for the woman who suggested that Elizabeth Edwards is to blame because she wasn't 'taking care of things at home', I hope sand endlessly blows in her vaseline. Its been a while since I have heard as despicable a comment as that. I will never wish anyone gets cancer, even the worst dregs of society don't deserve this, so I refrain from asking God to ensure that she receives justice.

I don't know how John Edwards could ever redeem himself. He used his wife as a stage prop. "Look at my poor brave wife, and I'm pretty brave myself!" All the while he was shacking up with a bimbo who has a bent moral compass. Utterly reprehensible behavior. May he be blindfolded and made to walk barefoot through a field full of rakes while cancer survivors throw AIDs infected wolverines at his face. I can't think of anything that could balance accounts on this.

I just wish he would crawl back under his rock and never be heard from again.

[rant off]

He does have a nice haircut, though.

Have a nice day!

Lee

StephN 08-11-2008 06:53 PM

Sorry, but anyone running for a public office as much in the spotlight as President of the country has to expect that they DO NOT have any private business. Such people are vetted unmercifully by their own party, let alone the rest of the world. Edwards got past his party vetting process because there was NO evidence or a hint of impropriety on his part at that time.

Infidelity to a spouse gets equated with a loss of trust, when trust is one of the main reasons to vote for a candidate.

A figure such as John Edwards is not the guy next door or someone you don't HAVE to or NEED to put your trust in.

Politically correct/psychologically "correct" apologies will not repair the damage to Edward's career in politics. I am sure he can go back to practicing law, no matter what his "choices" are now.

Gerri 08-11-2008 07:01 PM

John Edwards claims he would "welcome" a paternity test to prove the baby isn't his. His mistress has refused to allow a test done on the baby. I wonder how much that cost him...

I really feel bad for his children. Imagine having to deal with your mother going through cancer treatment and your father suffering from - not "an error in judgement" - but a lack of moral character. I think the only error he made was thinking that this would never come out.

Andi: I have to agree with you. I couldn't believe the talk show hosts going on and on and on about how Elizabeth Edwards is dying of cancer. It made me crazy every time I heard that statement.

Lee: Thank God for wonderful men like you, Joe, Bill, Eric, my husband, and countless others who support their partners in this battle. We are so lucky to have you in our corner.

Oh, and the haircut ($400), I wonder what he gets on the side....hmmm.....

All in all, what goes around, comes around. He will get his just dues.

Jean 08-11-2008 07:29 PM

Lee,
Gee - tell us how you really feel! lol.
I really enjoyed the part of throwing AID infected
wolvernes at his face...loved reading your post!

You and all our other wonderful men (yes Sir Bill) this means you too! /and/husbands certainly ARE NOT included nor compared to the likes of Edwards....

I think he was a skunk long before Elizabeth was dx.
this does not occur overnight!

Jean

anne2 08-11-2008 07:31 PM

Edwards is a hypocritical typical politician. I was charmed by him when he ran with Kerry, but I felt that his run this time around despite his wife health status spoke volumes. It just portrays his selfishness and his own agenda. This admission does not surprise me. I remember hearing a cancer survivor speak and she had this to say about unsupportive spouses:
"Whatever time I may have left, I don't want to spend it with you". People come in all varieties unfortunately, not all of them are supportive.
Just my 2 cents.
Anne

ElaineM 08-11-2008 09:43 PM

Edwards: Less help than a girl needs
 
I have no respect for John Edwards or the people who said Elizabeth has incurable cancer. Elizabeth is doing her best. She doesn't need a guy like John Edwards or the people who made those negative comments giving her more stress than she probably already has. I hope she lives until she is 150 !! Maybe she needs more people like us on her team. Let's adopt her.

hutchibk 08-11-2008 10:02 PM

I have never liked him. Never. And this just doesn't surprise me. I don't believe he 'made a mistake' or 'error in judgement' - he made a choice. That is an entirely different thing. Just like Clinton, Gingrich, Spitzer, McGreavy, Foley, etc etc etc... and all the other politicians who have made the slimey ego-centric choice of betraying an intimate vow. They get caught and they deserve every bit of fall-out that occurs from it. It is a pity that they are so narcissistic that they don't care what it will do to their families when they get caught. It makes me want to spit. I wouldn't walk across the street to pee on them if they were on fire. If a politician can't abide by a vow to their ill spouse, how in the world can they be seriously believed when it comes to a vow to an entire country of people? He obviously has no qualms about disloyalty and betrayal on the most personal level. When they are running for the highest (or any) office in our country, I believe that we do not turn a blind eye to it. It speaks volumes about the depth and integrity and trustworthiness of the person. How people act in their personal lives and their level of personal responsibility and sound judgment is the basis we start with as a species and a society to determine the trustworthiness, dependability and integrity of those we allow to be in our lives or choose to affiliate with, whether they are family, neighbor, business owner, civic leader, community leader, or national leader. I am such an old-fashioned square I guess, but I truly wish our society lived by the values of of the Boy Scout and Girl Scout promises, oaths and laws - like we used to strive to 4 or 5 decades ago...

BonnieR 08-11-2008 11:22 PM

There is so much I could say about Edwards. But I think instead or wasting space on him I will instead say "Thank You" from the bottom of my heart to Lee and all the good guys, like my husband, who you represent. God bless you.

karen z 08-12-2008 08:39 AM

Hutchibk,
Thanks for your last post- it resonated completely with me. And thanks to all who have posted about the wonderful members of this site, who have been great sources of love and support for their significant others. Seeing this love and support (and compassion and great humor through it all) is amazing and brings us all to a much better place.

Terri B 08-12-2008 09:15 AM

Agreed with most posts here ESPECIALLY hutchibk!! You tell it like it is!

It's like this, these type of men are confused as to which brain is supposed to do the thinking, if you know what I mean. They are HABITUAL. I guarantee that this is not his first infidelity.

Bill, Lee & all others here, I know good men exist, I'm fortunately married to one.

As for the "dying of cancer" or the "incurable" part, that gets on my nerves too. What does that mean? Aren't we all going to die eventually? Doesn't that make LIFE incurable? or all of us are "dying of life"?

Next time someone says that, lay that on them!



Diane H 08-13-2008 07:48 AM

Just one additional thought from me, while in no way do I condone what Edwards has done I cannot judge him so harshly. It was a ginormous mistake on his part. A mistake that has been made by so many beyond count, both women and men. A mistake, something that humans are all too prone to. I leave his judgement to a higher authority.

hutchibk 08-13-2008 10:34 AM

I don't agree that it was a mistake, I offer that it is a choice... but I do agree with leaving the 'acquital' of it to a higher power.

hutchibk 08-13-2008 10:36 AM

Exactly Terri! We are all 'dying of life' from the minute we are born! As I always say, I don't believe in the 'Stage 4' myth about cancer... in my world there are at least 50 stages, and I would offer in the world of our dear Madubois - she is putting my theory to shame~

karen z 08-13-2008 01:36 PM

Hutchibk,
I agree with you, completely.
Edwards made a choice, followed by more choices (including not telling the truth to family, friends, co-workers, supporters), followed by more choices (trying to become the next President of the U.S. while lying) and on and on and on (he even made a choice to have a late night meeting in a hotel room a few weeks before national conventions- holy cow, give me a break). I, too, leave his acquital to a higher authority but, when one has actually decided to do something very public with one's life, then one's choices may be more visible and consequences more far reaching than for others (but, in all cases, forgiveness would be coming from elsewhere, obbviously).

loveher 08-13-2008 08:03 PM

what do you expect from a trial lawyer
ugh i was such a big supporter during the early primaries, this is such a dissapointment. i thought they were such a down to earth couple among all those other slimball politicians.
its gonna put a dent in americas perception of the democratic party and perhaps in the democratic process. i think this story just brings out the hypocrisy in politics
i agree this story has been given way too much attention by the media. and i really feel like the personal life of a politician should be kept private, i mean whats happened in his personal life doesnt change his voting record in congress or any of his professional pursuits.
anyways on a personal level, i really sympathize with elizabeth edwards. and im starting to just distrust men in general

karen z 08-17-2008 05:01 PM

I read recently that some folks are trying to get their campaign donations refunded (not donations to the general election, whichwould get refunded anyway but for the primaries)!!!
Wow, if these folks succeed, maybe some people will be less prone to lie to other folks in the future.


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