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Lani
12-03-2009, 04:22 PM
don't get too worried. This particular study,even in earlier interim reports, never showed benefit of adding herceptin vs all the other adjuvant studies--

I am sure at SABCS they will continue to speculate as to why this is--maybe they forgot to refrigerate the herceptin!!


Sequential Trastuzumab Does Poorly in European Breast Cancer Study


Dec 02 - In women with axillary node-positive breast cancer, giving trastuzumab after the end of adjuvant chemotherapy and radiation did not significantly reduce their risk of relapse, European researchers report online in the Journal of Clinical Oncology.

The report, by Dr. Marc Spielmann of the Institut Gustave Roussy, Villejuif, France, and colleagues, noted that almost all previous trials of trastuzumab in similar populations reported a statistically significant benefit, with risk reductions ranging from 36% to 58%.

Regarding possible reason(s) for their findings, the authors point out that "the most robust data for trastuzumab efficacy came from trials that evaluated a concomitant schedule" rather than a sequential one.

Subjects in the multicenter study were drawn from among 3,010 women with axillary node-positive nonmetastatic breast cancer who had been randomized to receive one of two chemotherapy regimens (either fluorouracil, epirubicin and cyclophosphamide or epirubicin and docetaxel) plus radiation (if breast surgery had been conservative).

The 528 women with tumors that over-expressed human epidermal growth factor receptor 2 (HER2) were randomized a second time, to receive either a one-year course of trastuzumab, or observation.

Trastuzumab was given as an 8 mg/kg loading dose and a maintenance dose of 6 mg/kg every three weeks for up to 18 cycles. The HER2-positive women had a median age of 48 years.

Three-quarters of those slated to get trastuzumab received it for at least six months. The main reason for discontinuing trastuzumab was cardiac events (41 patients), although no deaths from cardiac causes were reported.

After a median follow-up of 47 months, trastuzumab treatment was associated with a nonsignificant 14% decrease in the risk of relapse and with no difference in the risk of death. Three-year disease-free survival rates were 81% with trastuzumab and 78% with observation. Three-year overall survival rates were 95% with trastuzumab and 96% in controls.

Going back to their point that earlier reports showed a benefit of trastuzumab when it was given with, rather than after, chemotherapy, the researchers add: "Preclinical data suggest that, in addition to exerting direct antiproliferative effect on cancer cells, the concomitant use of trastuzumab could increase the taxane sensitivity of cancer cells."

J Clin Oncol 2009

Becky
12-03-2009, 06:05 PM
Oh well. I took it sequentially but made sure that I was also taking Arimidex the whole time.

I am still here after 5+ yrs so I am sure it gave me some benefit.

I do agree that the evidence shows that taking it with a taxane is the best but Herceptin was not available to me at all and I feel lucky to have somehow secured it no matter how I had to take it.

caya
12-03-2009, 07:39 PM
Thanks for posting this Lani. I did the FEC then Taxotere, then started Herceptin. My onc. felt this was the best combo out there at the time (started chemo in Jan. 2007) for me. I remember asking him why I was not staring Herceptin at the same time as chemo, and he told me that this particular chemo combo and Herceptin in combination would have been too hard on my heart.
I was node negative, so I hope the stats hold up for me, maybe even better.

all the best
caya

hutchibk
12-04-2009, 05:34 PM
Mine was sequential, as it wasn't out of trials yet when I did my first line chemo... I got it 14 months later, after recurrence. But I know it is doing it's good work now.

Christine MH-UK
12-06-2009, 03:04 PM
Hi Lani,

I think that this finding isn't that surprising given that the results of the U.S. trials announced way back in May 2005 showed that concommitant definitely made a statistically significant difference whereas sequential did not. I noticed that on the last update of the HERA trial there was no mention of a continued difference in survival, only that such a difference had been documented earlier.

Yes, I am still around and disease free, but recent studies make me suspect that it was probably taxotere ( which works really well on er-, her2+) rather than the herceptin that made the big difference.

Becky
12-06-2009, 06:37 PM
Taxanes work well on Her2+ cancer regardless of hormone status.