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To finally determine why Caryn was continuing to have digestive problems they did an ERCP, which is a catheder scope down through the ducts. Unfortunately, the dr found tons of microscopic cells clogging the ducts inside the liver. This is driving her liver toward failure. If we do anything there's a risk of accelerating damage to the liver and shortening the little time that she has. We told our 16 year old daughter and 13 year old son -what a HORRIBLE thing to have to do. We're not quite ready to stop fighting yet so we've asked her primary Onc to speak to her Sloan Onc to discuss last shot treatment or a surgery. We're hoping that they can come up with something her2 related that won't compromise her liver even further. I'm devastated as it appears that my kids have less than 2 weeks to be with their mom and I have less than 2 weeks to be with the best thing that's ever happened to me outside of my kids.
I'm sorry if this post makes things harded for anyone else.
Eric -
I am so saddened by this news. I pray that the Sloan onc. can think of something so that Caryn can keep up the fight.
I am praying that you all find comfort - HORRIBLE....
wishing you all the best
caya (Caryn is my real name, I really feel this)
sassy
02-28-2009, 08:11 PM
Eric,
Please know that I am keeping your entire family in my thoughts and prayers. I am praying that the Sloan onc can help.
vickie h
02-28-2009, 08:18 PM
Oh Eric, I am so heartbroken and in tears because of this news. I am on my knees, praying to God to please heal Caryn and to grant you the peace and ability to face the paths ahead. Please, please know you and your family are in my heart tonight. I am 60 years old and would switch places with caryn if I could, I truly mean that. Hold your beautiful wife and children close and tell them that thousands of us out here are praying fervently for a miracle.
Love, Vickie
was the following
Adoptive T-Cell Transfer for Metastatic Melanoma
James Yang, MD
National Institutes of Health
at a conference in October hosted by Dr. Slamon
He was, I believe, starting to try to do something simiilar with other cancers...or at least thinking of starting to as he stated he believed his method would be applicable to many other sorts of cancer.
He only treats patients at the NIH and the patient's whose scans he showed and whose stories he told were widely metastatic.
Perhaps trying to contact his office at the NIH???
chrisy
02-28-2009, 08:45 PM
Oh Eric, I have no words, only prayers.
Wrapping you and Caryn and your family in loving prayers.
Much much love
Chris
Eric, my prayers are with you and Caryn, and your family. I hope and pray that something can be done.
ElaineM
02-28-2009, 09:01 PM
I am so sorry. There must be something that can be done. Keep asking the docs. Meanwhile, I have my fingers crossed and will say a prayer for you and your family. Take care.
freyja
02-28-2009, 09:28 PM
Yes! Keep fighting. We're fighting with you. Keep asking questions. Get face to face with those doctors and try everything. I believe in miracles. We're with you no matter what happens.
Debbie L.
02-28-2009, 09:47 PM
Oh Eric, our hearts ache for you and for your family. I pray that you use every possible moment left to Caryn to cherish, support, and love each other. I pray that you do not get so caught up in searching for more options that you miss an opportunity to grab these precious moments, right now.
Searching for options is fine and of course we hope for success there - but do not hang your hat on that. Do not risk wasting one single precious moment. This is it, the only reality, right NOW. There is absolutely nothing to lose, and so much to gain, in that approach to each moment.
If only we all had that urgency, every moment. If only we did not have to be motivated by being so imminently close to facing our mortality to remind us to fully appreciate this moment. Hug your kids, your lover, your bosom buddies, and best friends. Even if just figuratively, in your heart.
Please, Eric, do not worry about making things harder for those reading. You're actually making it easier for us (in the long run) by giving us the opportunity to be with you just a little bit in your hard times. Keep posting, so that we can offer our small words of support and also so that we can learn that this - even this - can be done.
Holding you in my heart, with love,
Debbie L.
SoCalGal
02-28-2009, 10:51 PM
Oh my god Eric I am reading through tears. I echo the words of the others...sending love and prayers.
Try to stay in the present moment. As a mom (with kids just a few years older) I decided that my PROCESS was what held value for my kids, my friends, and my family - that was the only way for me to cope with the times that my treatment wasn't working and I, too was needing a miracle.
Hoping a miracle is on the way to you and your family.
Flori
Margerie
02-28-2009, 11:08 PM
I am so sorry Eric and I will be thinking of you and your family
Eric,
I am so sorry to hear Caryn's news. I'm praying for the doctors to find a way to help her, and I am also praying for you and for your family.
Keep fighting for her.
Hugs,
KarlaV.
jones7676
03-01-2009, 03:34 AM
Eric,
I am so very sorry to hear of Caryn's news. I am going to try to continue to think positive though because within the last 20 years I've had two acquaintances and for one they found a trial and she lived longer and a good life.
I am hoping and praying that a call to the NIH can save Caryn as it did save this acquaintance and I believe it may be possible and could happen.
Whatever the outcome is I am part of the group praying for you and your family. Even though I don't know you, my heart is hurting for you and the children and hoping for the best.
I am hoping the same type of "miracle" is there for all of you.
RhondaH
03-01-2009, 04:40 AM
prayers were just said for Caryn and your family...I hope something can be done and will continue to pray. Take care and God bless.
Rhonda
suzan w
03-01-2009, 06:07 AM
sad sad sad...sending peaceful thoughts your way.
Eric, that's such devastating news. I am so sorry. And I'm crossing all my fingers and toes, hoping that some kind of therapy can be found that will by her more time.
I do think Debbie L. has a point, though. These weeks are so precious. When my Mom was dying of cancer of the esophagus, almost 10 years ago, I got to spend the last week with her. She told me she felt very lonely, because my father couldn't accept that she was dying. She told me she needed for us to let her go. She felt it was her time.
So even if you do everything you can to find another treatment, please don't forget to ask her what she needs from you. Don't forget to let the children spend time with her, giving them and her a chance to accept what's going on. And give each of your children enough space to deal with this in their own way.
I am so grateful to you for finding the time to let us know. We want to be there for all of you.
Sending hugs & healing energy all the way from the Netherlands, Europe.
Jacqueline
I can't tell you how much ALL of your words mean to me.
Lani - I've emailed Dr. Yang and will call as well. I also cc'd Caryn's Onc in the hopes that he will reach out as well.
Our family realizes the reality and will make decisions based on real information but we're not ready to just give up. We will weigh any positives and negatives but am thankful to have possible options to look into.
If there's a God - God Bless You ALL!
Love to all,
Eric
Mary Jo
03-01-2009, 06:59 AM
Oh dear God Eric.......your post has made me so sad and I am so so sorry for you, Caryn and your children. So so hard it must be.
I ask God to comfort you all - to hold you close - to surround you with peace.
I wish there was more I could say but there isn't....only that I know you are loved - incredibly!!!
Gentle hugs,
Mary Jo
Mary Anne in TX
03-01-2009, 07:17 AM
Eric, my heart is heavy for your circumstances, but my spirit is high with possibilities for your family. I send love and prayers to you all. May God's angels stay near to help. ma
Yorkiegirl
03-01-2009, 07:21 AM
Eric many, many prayers out to Caryn, you and your family. I'm at loss for words to say. Just know that I am praying for her.
Sheila
03-01-2009, 07:52 AM
Eric
My heart is heavy as I read this news, as I have followed Caryn's fight and your unending support for a long time. Prayers are everywhere for Caryn, You and your children...may she get that miracle that you all so deserve...you are in my thoughts
Joan M
03-01-2009, 08:07 AM
Eric,
I'm very upset about Caryn. Please let her know she is in my prayers that the oncs come up with another treatment. It's been a long haul, but best to keep fighting this if there's another treatment option. I'm sorry for all that you've been through, your children too.
Joan
sarah
03-01-2009, 08:29 AM
Eric,
This is devastating news. Sloan Kettering is a great hospital and I hope they come up with a good treatment for Caryn.
I wonder if a website such as www.bcmets.org would have anything helpful to suggest.
Prayers and postive thoughts go out to all of you
big hug and love
sarah
Becky
03-01-2009, 09:23 AM
Go everywhere you can. Sometimes the big cancer centers only go by the books and smaller places try new or even outdated treatments that haven't been tried.
I am thinking about Caryn, you and your children.
TriciaK
03-01-2009, 10:23 AM
Dear Eric and Caryn, I have just seen your post, and my heart is aching for you and your family. I am praying fervently that you will feel God's arms around you. We will pray for a miracle for you, and we are all sending love and prayers. Tricia
Eric,
We are profoundly sorry to hear about Caryn. Please let me know if there is anything that we can do.
Warmest Regards
Joe
Hopeful
03-01-2009, 10:58 AM
Eric, I am so terribly sorry to hear your news. You and your family are in my thoughts.
Hopeful
Eric,
My prayers are with Caryn, you and your children. Hold on to hope and God.
Paty
Barbara H.
03-01-2009, 11:08 AM
Hi Eric,
This is certainly very sad news. I have followed all your posts and have been so impressed how you have tenaciously fought to find the best treatments for Caryn. As a teacher I have had children in my classroom who have lost their parents to cancer and to other illnesses. They remember their parents and speak of their memories. They remain an important part of their lives. One parent compiled a book of her favorite recipes for her daughter. Please assure Caryn that if nothing more medically can be done at this time, that her children will survive and will be OK. Caryn will continue to be a part of them for the rest of their lives. My grandmother died of cancer when I was three. She crochet a booty for my doll the day that she died. My mother recently just sent it to me. I have memories of my grandmother and will never forget her.
That being said, I my thoughts remain with you and your family, and I sincerely hope that a treatment will be found to give her more time.
I wish the best for you and your family and thank you for keeping us informed. Of course we all care for you and do not like to hear this news. However, we want to be here to support you.
Best regards,
Barbara
Colleens_Husband
03-01-2009, 12:27 PM
Eric:
I am so sorry to hear about Caryn and the devastating effects cancer will have on her life and the lives of everyone in your family.
Eric, please know that you and your family are not alone. We will pray for you and your entire family.
Lee
fauxgypsy
03-01-2009, 12:40 PM
I am so sorry. It is bad enough when you are older, as I am. You and your family will be in my thoughts. I hope so much that you can find another treatment for Caryn. While you are looking, please take the time to find your way through this. There are several suggestions in the following site that might help if you do need them.
http://www.cancersupportivecare.com/terminal.html
Ceesun
03-01-2009, 12:55 PM
Everyone has been so eloquent in their feelings. My heart feels heavy right now and I will pray for your entire family. I hope a miracle awaits for you and yours. Ceesun
Gabrielle
03-01-2009, 01:00 PM
I am so very sorry to read this news, Eric. This is heartbreaking. My heart goes out to you and your family.
-Gabrielle
Faith in Him
03-01-2009, 01:44 PM
I am praying for that miracle for your family. I do believe in them. Lifting all of you up in prayer and asking God to bless your days and navigate your interactions with the doctors.
Tonya
Julie2
03-01-2009, 02:37 PM
Eric,
I am so mad and sad at the news. I have known you and Caryn since I joined the board. Please don't give up and try Navlbine or Gemgar with proven result for Her2 disease.
Please know that miracles are possible. I have heard many people who were given two weeks to live for a long time once they start a targeted treatment. Please don't loose hope and fight.
Thinking of you and Caryn and sending all the positive thoughts and prayers you need.
Please keep us posted.
Julie
LAURIE
03-01-2009, 02:38 PM
Many prayers are coming your families way. Please note that all these posts are from people who support you and your family. We are all in this special club and we fight together; as well as with our family and friends too.
Shobha
03-01-2009, 02:39 PM
So very sorry to hear this news. I am praying hard that God will find a way and save caryn. Please God....
I am adding my prayers to those of my sisters. Every moment is precious. I hope you find a new treatment or drug combo that works for Caryn.
Lori R
03-01-2009, 03:19 PM
Dear Eric,
I wanted to let you know how much I respect you for the ongoing involvement and support you've provided Caryn and all of us on this site. I know that you are a fantastic dad and with your support, your children will be fine. You will have an opportunity to witness what a fantastic job you and Caryn have done.
BUT......to the extent Caryn is up for it...keep on swinging. What about some of the recent vaccine trials. Would one of this be an option to boost Caryn's immune system? Was a surgical procedure ruled out? Chemo embolization directly to the liver?
Warmest wishes of peace and gratitude to you and your family.
Love...Lori
Donna
03-01-2009, 03:44 PM
Dear Eric and Caryn,
You are in my prayers, with all of us praying and hoping something just has to happen that brings hope and light into your lives. Please know that you and your family are part of our family too - we are hoping and praying right along with you. Miracles do happen!
Love, Donna
WomanofSteel
03-01-2009, 03:47 PM
Eric, I am so sorry to hear about Caryn. Please know that you are all in my prayers.
Mary Jo
03-01-2009, 03:48 PM
Hi Eric,
I just got home and you, Caryn and the kids have been on my mind and in my prayers all day. I know it isn't much but I pray that knowing how loved you are and how much I (we all) care helps in a small way.
Asking God for a miracle.........
Mary Jo
Sherryg683
03-01-2009, 03:59 PM
I don't know what to say, I feel sick to my stomach. Please know that I will pray for you, Caryn and your children. Do know that they can't tell you how much time she will have left. It could be much longer than weeks. My husbands secretary was told she had no more than months left, she had glioblastoma (brain cancer)...she is still here almost 2-1/2 years later. I am hoping that these doctors will put their heads together and come up with something that can help her...don't give up hope ..sherryg683
Eric,
I am sorry to read your post. My first thought is I am glad you are not giving up, maybe there is a new trial,
or treatment ...I am glad you made the calls to the top
dr.
I will pray that some one has an answer for you.
I keep you and Caryn and your children in my prayers.
Kindest Regards,
jean
juanita
03-01-2009, 04:38 PM
it breaks my heart to hear this! so much going on in my personal life that has me messed up right now that this just brings me back down to earth. i'm sending lots of prayers your way
lkc Gumby
03-01-2009, 05:05 PM
Eric I have not been on these boards in quite awhile and am saddened by this news.
Before I was diagnosed I nursed my mom who had BC mets to her liver. The lesions were too many to count and the onc told me it would probably be 6 mos, tops. ( She was 75 the time ) She responded to Taxol and and lived an additional 5 years of an active life.
Caryn sounds like she is obstructed, can they do a stent proceedure which will allow the liver to drain?
Please forgive me , but I believe where there is life there is hope.
I pray there is an alternative for Caryn, and I will hold you all in my prayers.
Kim in DC
03-01-2009, 05:31 PM
I'm praying for you!
Jackie07
03-01-2009, 05:31 PM
Sorry to hear the bad news. Seems one of our members has it in her signature that several years ago her liver was found to be 'full of tumors'. I wonder if the situation Caryn has is different because the location - you mention 'duct' - is hard to reach.
I know we are praying for a miracle. But miracles do happen sometimes. So we'll continue to pray for Caryn and your family.
charlotte
03-01-2009, 05:58 PM
I am addding my prayers that a miracle will happen. You have the folks here sending up prayers that it will happen.
Gerri
03-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Eric,
Praying that Caryn, you and your children have the strength you need to see you through this difficult time. Caryn is blessed to have you by her side.
Love to you,
lexigirl
03-01-2009, 06:28 PM
Adding my prayers for Caryn right now. There must be another tx option for her.
I have a 12 1/2 and a 16 yr old, too. I have imagined in my mind how it might be to tell my kids this same news one day. It brings me to tears when I do think of this.
Please don't feel bad to share your feelings here with us. We can take it. We are in this together. For better and for worse. It's a sister and brotherhood that ties us together and gets us through the really hard trials with this disease.
Hang in there friend. Hope exists and miracles happen everyday.
Hugs and Prayers,
Lexi
Becky
03-01-2009, 06:31 PM
Eric
I know you live close to Philly. Go online and make an appointment with the Cancer Center of American there.
They are innovative and resourceful.
BonnieR
03-01-2009, 08:17 PM
Nothing to add except my prayers and love.
StephN
03-01-2009, 08:43 PM
Dear Eric and Caryn -
I echo Julie2 as I think you have been on this board as long as I have as well.
I see you have given this new news some quick consideration and put out some calls. Keep rattling their cages and jerking chains as you know about the "squeeky wheel" ...
My fervent prayers go your way for that miracle call back with a plan for Caryn.
Your children have lived with the threat of their mother going away for a long time, and I wish only the best blessings for their stout hearts.
Dear Eric and Caryn,
I am praying for you both. My first instinct at reading your post, was to suggest that you ask about radio frequency ablation, thermal ablation, or interstitial laser techniques. These have seen success in primary and secondary liver tumors, and I believe have been used in other types of malignancies as well when ductal metastases have been involved. I obviously don't know the other details of Caryn's current disease status, but I thought I would offer this anyway. Try to stay strong Eric. Your wonderful wife and children need you now more than ever.
Sincerely,
Tom
Rich66
03-01-2009, 10:12 PM
What about isolated hepatic perfusion? You posted about this previously. Any possibility of accessing it?
Rich66
03-01-2009, 10:13 PM
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TerriC
03-02-2009, 04:35 AM
Eric, I'm sorry for your news. My prayers are with Caryn, you and your family.
Eric,
Please know you, Caryn and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
Maria
DonnaD
03-02-2009, 07:06 AM
Eric and Caryn,
Add me to the list of many praying for Caryn, you and your family. Hoping today you will get some direction in what way to go for the next treatment.
Donna
RobinP
03-02-2009, 07:36 AM
"If there's a God - God Bless You ALL!"-
Yes, Eric, there is a God and it is hard to see the master's plan sometimes, especially in hard times. I am sending prayers your way that somehow your sweet family will be blessed in this crisis and for miraculous healing.
duga35
03-02-2009, 07:47 AM
Eric, I am so sorry to hear this. I wish that I could offer more kind words to try and help you deal with this horrible news, but at these times I am usually just speechless.
We've never had the chance to interact with each other in the past, but I want you to know that you and your wonderful family are certainly in my prayers.
Barbara H.
03-02-2009, 08:08 AM
Hi Eric,
I'm quite sure my idea won't work, but at this stage everything is worth trying. It is not clear to me that Caryn really progressed when she was on the TDM1 trial. She was also on a high dose. This is a very effective drug for some patients and she may not have had the opportunity to receive the enough treatments to help her. The drug companies are very strict, but maybe her trial doctor would be willing to fight for her to be placed with a lower dose back on the trial with this new development.
You and Caryn continue to be in my thoughts.
Barbara H.
lisajones4
03-02-2009, 10:02 AM
Please know that you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
Lisa
Laurel
03-02-2009, 12:07 PM
Eric,
There is a God and He is not a God of illness. Why people suffer and leave us I do not know. I do know this: God hears our prayers. I am crying for Caryn, but I am really crying for you. You and your family will be in my prayers. May some doctor offer you the gift of hope soon!
tricia keegan
03-02-2009, 01:06 PM
Eric, my prayers are added for you and Caryn to all the rest here today. I'm so sorry you've received this news and only pray the Dr's come up with something to help.
schoolteacher
03-02-2009, 02:29 PM
Eric,
I will be praying for your family and Caryn.
Amelia
Patty F
03-02-2009, 05:53 PM
Eric,
You and Caryn are in my prayers.
Audrey
03-02-2009, 07:20 PM
Eric,
I'm so sorry to hear of Caryn's latest prognosis--like others on this board, I've been reading your posts for years and have been pulling for her all along--I've always thought she was so lucky to have someone like you in her life, someone who is willing to do the research, advocate on her behalf, and come here and find support to offer her. Please know that I'm keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers during this horrible time--and hoping for the best-
Cannon
03-02-2009, 07:30 PM
Dear Eric,
I am sending you and your family love, that's all I have for you.
Rebecca
karenann
03-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Caryn, you and your children are in my prayers. Please check out the information Lani sent. I looked it up and found something with Her2 bc and Adoptive t-cell transfer.
Hugs,
Karen
CindyE
03-02-2009, 09:12 PM
Eric,
Caryn, you and the family are in my prayers. Keep hope. God bless.
to all of you Eric. I think your continued research and tenacity have potential to help this situation. Not to mention the power of love, which you have exhibited so beautifully for so long. I am directing our Colorado sunshine to you with all of my might.
Thank you all!
I spoke to Caryn's Dr who has agreed to start Caryn on herceptin with a very low dose of Gemzar. This was the first combo that Caryn went on to when first diagnosed stage 4. It brought her 2 years of NED. Apparently the dosage will be low enough that her liver should be ok. I know it's the longest pf shots but I'm happy to have it. My thanks to all of you. Your love and support are amazing.
I'll keep you advised.
Eric
StephN
03-03-2009, 12:52 PM
Dear Eric - JOY is what comes into my heart from your post. I am so glad the docs have agreed that all may not be lost.
Are you doing anything else that is therapeutic for the liver such as Milk Thistle and some detox teas? I felt these extra remedies did help my body clear the cancer "debris" from my liver and blood.
vickie h
03-03-2009, 01:43 PM
Eric dear! Good news! I'm elated that Caryn is starting on something that worked so well for her. Yea! If she can start taking Milk Thistle tea during the day, it is very beneficial to ridding the liver of toxins and it's very soothing. There are liver cleanser teas at the health food store that are combos of herbs but all have milk thistle in them. I'm still praying for you, Love, Vickie
Mary Jo
03-03-2009, 01:48 PM
Dear Eric and Caryn...Hey a "long shot" is a shot, nonetheless. As the saying goes "where there is life, there is Hope" so never, never give up!
Enjoy each day to the fullest - no matter what! None of us knows our tomorrow's. We're all dying. Some just "know" where others don't have a clue. I feel those of us who "know" or who had our mortality smacked in our face are the lucky ones. I really do. We are able to do and say those things we want to say. Often times when death is sudden and totally unexpected there is so much regret.
So all - LIVE YOUR LIFE.......love those around you..............say everything you want to say TODAY as tomorrow might be too late.
God Bless us everyone....
Mary Jo
lkc Gumby
03-03-2009, 01:56 PM
good news to have a plan. hope and prayers that this combo will be effective. (We can all live quite long time with a small percentage of a functioning liver)
God Bless.
chrisy
03-03-2009, 02:12 PM
Eric,
I'm with Steph - glad to hear that Caryn's doctor is willing to consider another option. It's been a while since the Gemzar/Herceptin and that worked well before. Even if it is, as you say, a long shot. There's a reason why they throw hail mary passes...because sometimes they work.
Although the problem seems to be in the ducts, I also agree with trying supportive treatment for Caryn's liver. Milk Thistle, yes, beet juice is also good for general liver detox.
Hopefully the chemo will buy some time for Caryn to regain strength. I'm not completely clear on what the issue is, but is this a situation where they could put in a stent?
You are in my constant thoughts and prayers.
ElaineM
03-03-2009, 02:58 PM
Just thought I would check in to see how you guys are doing. I was pleased to read you talked the the doc into trying something else. It might help.
Also I with the folks who suggested milk thistle and beets. My naturopath prescribed both a long time ago. I still take milk thistle and eat fresh beets.
Barbara H.
03-03-2009, 03:01 PM
I just came home from work and logged on to hear the news that you have been given hope with the a prior treatment that worked for Caryn. My thoughts continue to be with you and your family, and I have a positive feeling that this combination may work.
Best wishes,
Barbara H.
jones7676
03-03-2009, 04:48 PM
I am glad to hear you have such a good physcian. I am glad to hear it worked so well before. I am hoping, praying, and believing it will work again for her and I will be watching closely (as I am sure we all will) to see how it works out. It was wonderful to hear your good news.
Cannon
03-03-2009, 04:59 PM
Great News, Eric. Thank you for sharing with us, and know that we are all sending you and Caryn and your family love and healing.
Rebecca
nitewind
03-03-2009, 07:14 PM
Eric, I was so relieved to hear that your doctor hasn't given up and is trying this treatment. Please know that you and your wife and family are in my continued prayers.
Hugs
Soccermom
03-03-2009, 07:23 PM
Dear Eric,
Just another Her2 sister hoping and wishing for a miracle,
gentle hugs,Marcia
harrie
03-03-2009, 11:14 PM
Eric, just wanted to add my prayers for you, Caryn, your kids....
take care.
Maryanne
Eric -- I am praying for healing to Caryn's liver. Glad you have a good, aggressive doctor. Beet juice and milk thistle tea - sounds good, but maybe not together. Please keep up posted.
chrisy
03-04-2009, 07:26 AM
eric,
I'm holding thoughts of you and your family. Praying for God's love to enfold you and sustain you all,
much much love to you
Mary Anne in TX
03-04-2009, 10:58 AM
Eric and Caryn, I'm prayin' today too! Much love, ma
Terri B
03-04-2009, 11:16 AM
Eric, nothing but positive vibes for you, your lovely wife and beautiful children.
Shobha
03-04-2009, 01:52 PM
Praying for your family! God bless you all and guide Caryn to receive the right drugs and heal her liver and regain her strength!
Happy to hear that low dose of herceptin has been added!
Believe51
03-04-2009, 02:28 PM
Dear Eric, I usually do not log on to this site on weekends but something made me give in to the temptation. I heard of this news Sunday and I have been snowed in since then; I could not wait to respond to this news and to let you know I am right here too. Candles are burning for Caryn and the entire family during this hard situation. Please know that prayers have been revised for her and repeated since I read this.
I admire your strength and devotion to this sweet woman. Also know that I have been saying special prayers for you. Eric, I wish all the best for both of you but need to remind you to please take care of 'you' during this balancing act. Although our stories are different, I too am a caregiver to the best person I know. And with that I just need to send you a big hug. I cannot even imagine how you are digesting this news.
Stay strong My Friend and remember we love you both.>>Believe51 and The Mighty Oak
PS: The hardest thing about reading your post was hearing what is happening to a very special friend. Love to you Caryn. Please just do your best and we will do the rest. We all love you so very much!!
madubois63
03-04-2009, 03:02 PM
Dear Eric and Caryn - I am really sorry to read your sad news, but am glad that the doc hasn't given up. I've been in liver failure twice, but not for the same reasons. I was actually green with weeks to live and no chance of a transplant. Besides other treatments, my onc put me on heavy steroids to help my liver. Has this been suggested at all???? Also - Milk thistle helps cleanse the liver. I take it in a capsule form. My other suggestion is dandelion. Dandelion has long been used to cleanse the liver. it comes in pill form, tea and of course the real thing. I grew up on it (Greek) so I am use to the taste. I have to warn you it is bitter and an acquired taste. Best way to cook it is to boil (like spinach), put olive oil, lemon, garlic and salt & pepper to taste. Save the water. Strain it good and add sugar/honey or sweet-n-low. Caryne should drink several cups a day. The tea bags are easier, but I think fresh from the actual plant has more of the stuff she needs. Please tell Caryne about my story to give her what she needs most right now- hope. She already has determination (your 2 kids and you), but just remind her of that. Good luck and God bless...I believe in miracles because they have happened to me.
flynny
03-04-2009, 03:13 PM
Dear Eric, no words are going to make this any easier for you, but just know she is in our prayers as you and your children our. May all the angles above guide you and take care of you.
lexigirl
03-04-2009, 08:47 PM
Hi Eric,
I am so hopeful that the herceptin and gemzar will take care of Caryn's liver. Thinking of Caryn and your family tonight.
Hugs and Prayers,
Lexi
Caryn met with the dr today to formally discuss the treatment plan, if she chooses to move forward with it. As mentioned, he proposed Herceptin/low dose Gemzar plus he's adding Carbo. He made it clear that if her bone marrow can't bounce back from the chemo onslought she may need to be hospitalized within 5-10 days after treatment and then it's just a matter of sleeping away her few remaining days in a hospital as they manage her pain. If her body can handle the chemo and it works that it can potentially add months (and possibly more in my book). My feeling is that if it can add months or help turn her liver functions around, then that opens the door to other possibilities.
I worked very hard at not "influencing" her decision but she already knew that I'm not ready to give her up yet. Well, this evening she announced to my kids and me that she's moving forward with the treatment. I'm scared but happy with her decision. I continue to be awed by her bravery!!! I also feel like because of all of you there's always a chance for that "miracle". I kind of feel that if there's enough voices yelling out than the chance of someone listening goes up. Well, the voice I heard from all of you wonderful people was loud and clear! I only hope the powers that be do as well.
My gratitude and love to all,
Eric
hutchibk
03-04-2009, 10:08 PM
Wow, Eric. Words cannot express. You and Caryn are beyond the pale with courage. I am in awe and I am praying hard that this treatment turns everything around...
Mary Anne in TX
03-05-2009, 03:59 AM
Eric and Caryn, may the herceptin and gemzar do their duty for you. What amazing courage and love. I'm believin' for powerful, positive results and more that months to come. I send you my love and prayers and gratitude for who you both are. ma
Pam P
03-05-2009, 05:46 AM
You and Caryn and your kids are in my prayers. I'm praying that this treatment will be your miracle for better news. You are couragous and strong. Such inadequate words for what I'm feeling for you both.
WomanofSteel
03-05-2009, 06:32 AM
I also add my prayers that this may be a miracle for Caryn and turn things around for her. Hang in there we are all with you.
ElaineM
03-05-2009, 03:09 PM
I'm so happy the oncologist is going to prescribe chemo.
I know you are probably overwhelmed with advice from us, but I would like to add something about the bone marrow if I may.
I never had a problem with my bone marrow, red blood counts and white blood counts during my treatment. I took supplements and ate alot of things that are good for the bone marrow and blood counts. Other patients have also shared information with me about bone marrow soup.I will pass some of it along to you. I am not sure Caryn can tolerate it all or if you have time to prepare it but here goes-----
Bone Marrow: Bone marrow soup. Cook marrow from meat, add healthy herbs (some of them have been described and shared by others) garlic, onions and make a soup.
White blood count: fruits, vegetables, mushrooms, echinecea and astragalus
Red blood count: liquid iron, beans, spinach, real blackstrap molasses, B 12, chlorophyll tablets
I guess there are always shots from the oncologist if these things don't help. Miracles also happen.
Know that you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
Dear Eric and Caryn,
Wonderful news! I'm so glad your onc is working with you. May the combo giver her relief and buy her time! Lots of time!
Love
jacqueline
Elaine - I'm far from overwhelmed with advice from everyone. I cherish the advice and decide what to present to the dr. An example is the milk thistle that has been recommended by so many here. Her doc said yes and I bought it for her today. Everyone's advice, concern and prayers have made a HUGE difference for me these past few days. I can't thank everyone enough.
Mary Jo
03-06-2009, 01:23 PM
Hi Eric,
I pray today is a good day for you, Caryn and your family. Know you are surrounded by prayers.
Love and peace,
Mary Jo
chrisy
03-06-2009, 04:09 PM
Eric, you and Caryn are so special. I'm still holding you and your family in my prayers.
Much love
chris
You and your family are in my prayers and thoughts.
God bless and take care.
patb
sally
03-07-2009, 05:43 PM
Eric, Wishing you great results with the Herceptin/Gemzar/Carboplatin. This combo packs alot of punch. There is always hope. Your strength and determination will get you through. Good luck and stay strong. Sally
hermiracles
03-09-2009, 05:24 AM
Dear Eric, Caryn and family ~ you are all in my prayers. BIGGEST prayers and much love to all of you. I believe in the power of prayer and may all power be with you.
Blessings
Hermiracles
Believe51
03-09-2009, 09:10 AM
Thinking of your fine family and adding another post to let you know we walk besides you. Caryn is an amazing woman, but that is plain to see by who she chose as her mate. Best of luck Sweet Caryn, we are routing for you. And the power of prayers, well, we all know what magic they hold!! Candles burned bright all weekend, in fact, I never left the house....did not want to blow them out. Continuous prayers since finding out, but especially during the weekends. Love to the family.>>Believe51
SusanV
03-09-2009, 09:24 AM
Eric,
I just want you to know that my thoughts and prayers are with you, your wife and your children. I will pray for all of you each night.
janieR
03-09-2009, 12:53 PM
Dear Eric,
I just wanted to say that Caryn, you and your lovely family are in my thoughts and prayers tonight. The love shines out from you all.
Janie
ElaineM
03-09-2009, 03:33 PM
I am wondering how you and your family are doing today. I hope everything is going well.
Caryn's been doing ok. She's been tired and spends most of the day resting, has limited queaziness and some pain that the pain meds are managing. I'm hoping that this is mostly all related to the treatment and that she'll feel a bit better tomorrow. The Dr said that the treatment effects the bone marrow 5-10 days after so tomorrow thru Sunday are critical days. He said that if she's having marrow problems then she will develop pain similar to what you might feel from Neupogen (but I guess worse).
My kids have been amazing but it's definitely been hard for all of us. I can't tell you how comforting it's been to check in to this site and read the extraordinary love and care that you have all provided. If prayers work, I have to think that Caryn has a shot with all of you behind us. I know I say it a lot but, THANK YOU! You are all amazing and have made such an impression on me that I can't even express.
Dear Eric,
Please know that along with medicine, lots of love and fatih, "Miracles" do happen....and you have all of these
combos working for you...I am keeping you, Caryn and he children in my prayers for continued strength during these next few days.
Caryn and You have been so Strong...
Sending you blessings and healing energy for Caryn,
Kindest Regards,
Jean
JustwannaBE
03-09-2009, 07:14 PM
I am praying for Caryn, you and the kids. God bless this mess. All of you are so strong !
CindyE
03-09-2009, 08:34 PM
Eric,
Take strength in knowing that I and many others here continue to pray for Caryn. May God bless and comfort you all during this time. I am trusting that God will touch Caryn and begin a healing in her.
Hi Eric! Just wanted to stop in and say hi, and let you and Caryn know that you are still in my thoughts and prayers. You guys hang in there.
GemmaG
03-11-2009, 05:14 AM
Dear Eric,
Pls know that you're always in my thoughts and prayers. My love to you, to your wife and kids.
Keep the Faith!
Love,
Gemma
Mary Anne in TX
03-11-2009, 07:24 AM
Love and prayers throughout the day and especially tonight with the Power Team, for one incredible family! ma
vickie h
03-11-2009, 08:14 AM
eric, Still here praying and sending you love and support. I'll be praying along with everyone else tonight as we gather in our homes, churches, and other places of peace to honor Caryn and her strength through this journey. We are asking for no less than a miraculous healing for her. I'll also be praying for you and the children, those precious children. Please keep us informed as to her progress. We love you very much, vickie
IRENE FROM TAMPA
03-11-2009, 04:25 PM
Please give her my love and let her know my prayers are being said for her.
Joining hands across the miles to offer up prayer for
your healing and feeling better.
patb
Faith in Him
03-11-2009, 05:18 PM
Eric,
Praying for you, your dear wife and precious children. God is definately in the miracle business and I am praying that He will provide one for you and Caryn.
much love,
Tonya
harrie
03-11-2009, 11:09 PM
Eric, a reminder from me too that my prayer is being sent up to the universe for all the goodness and healing to be sent for Caryn. Sounds like you have a wonderful family with much support and love surrounding each other. I wish you good results, one step at a time....
Best wishes,
Maryanne
Believe51
03-17-2009, 01:33 PM
Eric, thinking about you all and sending a prayers before our Wednesday prayer group. Hang in there Caryn, we are right here in your corner. Healing thoughts>>Believe51
Barbara2
03-18-2009, 07:20 AM
Holding you both in prayer...
michka
03-18-2009, 08:12 AM
Eric, I'm sending all my love and strength tonight to Caryn.
Michka
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