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Believe51
10-30-2008, 08:46 AM
(from phone call to nurse)

Well, the 10 mets were successfully treated by Gamma Knife. I know no specifics since I have not read these results nor sat and talked to doctor yet.

We did discover one more met in the frontal lobe. I choked back tears since we was not aiming for this news. His nurse gave sympathy and I told her not to feel bad but be happy, this news just makes us know what to do.

The met is 5mm and will again be treated with Gamma Knife. I think we will have to start Tykerb and Herceptin again. Seperately they failed him but together we are hoping for a miracle.

I am already depressed and I guess in the back of my head I knew this is how it may happen. I know I have not been as active and supportive as I normally am here. I have been following you all each day. I may have not posted in threads but I have celebrated your birthdays, the reoccurances, the trials and tribulations. I love you all.

Now I must dry my eyes and break the news to Ed. Wish me luck because there is no easy way to do this.>>Believe51

PS: Before I go home I will go the long way so I can let loose and scream!!

Colleens_Husband
10-30-2008, 09:19 AM
Marie:

Our prayers are with you and Ed. I know there is no way to break the bad news to Ed, but the fact that the gamma knife worked on the other mets is encouraging. Please take care of yourself, I know this has been a very long and hard battle for you.

Lee

Faith in Him
10-30-2008, 09:25 AM
Prayers to you both. I believe the gamma knife will work on the other met also.

StephN
10-30-2008, 10:04 AM
For Heaven's Sake!
Breaking news to a patient is what the DOCTOR is supposed to do!! Not the patient's wife.
Can't believe they have not scheduled him to come in this week.
What a bunch of slackers - JMHO.

Marie, you should have demanded an appointment be made within a few days of the scan if they did not do that voluntarily.

The doctor is supposed to give the results and have a plan to discuss at the same time. So sorry they put you through this.

Mighty Oak will be just fine if they ever get him tended to ...

Hrrumph - how do I vent to his docs, this is for them.

chrisy
10-30-2008, 10:10 AM
Well, you are taking whack-a-mole to a whole new level. So sorry after the GK bowled a strike and knocked down all ten, that now a new one has dared to pop up. That won't stand for long.

Marie, we love you and Ed. You have been such a support to all of us here, and we (I) appreciate that you have been keeping an eye on us even when you don't have the time or energy to post.

How bout for a while you let us, and our prayers, lift YOU up. Let us wrap love and prayers around you and Ed, that your strength and hope is renewed.

Rich66
10-30-2008, 10:26 AM
I agree with the others. The fact that GK worked on the other mets is encouraging and seems to validate a tool at your disposal.

Believe51
10-30-2008, 11:21 AM
Steph, We did have an appointment but Ed's back is hurting so much we could not make it down there (30 miles). The doctor wanted to break this news but I thought it would be better if I did this time. We have the plan ready, thank goodness.

I have complete respect for our teams. The Gamma Knife team consists of 6 doctors (THE Gammaman & WBR Doc & 4 consultants). Steph, I so love how you protect us, you are too cute.

I am so blessed having you all watching over us. I always feel like we live in a giant protective bubble. You guys rock.

I love you all and could never live without this family!!>>Believe51

nitewind
10-30-2008, 11:34 AM
Marie, I am so sorry to hear about the new problem but I'm also confident that Ed will have good results from the gamma knife again.
I agree with the others, you just sit back and let everyone here love you and Ed. Don't feel that if you don't post on every thread that you're not a great person. We all know what you're going thru and how much you have on your plate. You love us just as much as we love you two. You guys are always on my mind and in all my prayers.
Hugs to you and Ed

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Mary Jo
10-30-2008, 12:04 PM
Sending you and Ed gentle hugs across the miles.

God's Peace,

Mary Jo

janieR
10-30-2008, 12:29 PM
Marie,

I am sending so much love to you and Ed across the sea , I hope you feel it.

God Bless

Janie

Yorkiegirl
10-30-2008, 12:30 PM
AWWW Marie I'm so sorry to read that there is yet another area. I know this will be taken care of as the others have been.

Sending prayers, hugs and love to both you and Ed.

caya
10-30-2008, 01:21 PM
Marie,
I am sending good positive thoughts to you and Ed that the GK will work again, as well as the drug combo.

all the best
caya

Mary Anne in TX
10-30-2008, 01:49 PM
Marie, what time is the screamfest? I'll just plan on lifting my voice in screaming prayer around 5pm. If I'm a bit early or late, I'll just scream a bit louder to make up for my mistake.
When you feel the vibration, just know my screaming prayer is sending powerful love your way, girl!
Lots of love, ma

schoolteacher
10-30-2008, 01:56 PM
Marie and Mighty Oak,

I am thinking about you two and praying at the same time.

Amelia

StephN
10-30-2008, 01:58 PM
Oh dear - so sorry to hear that Ed's back is so sore now. That does not help matters right now.

You just be strong and hold your back stiff against this new wind. Just grab on to your Mighty Oak and you will both come through this next round on your feet.

Yes, I guess there is a bit of the "mother" in me...

Patty F
10-30-2008, 04:29 PM
Marie
Not the news we wanted to hear. However, we are all here for you and Ed. Wrapping you both in prayer, along with your medical team.

TSund
10-30-2008, 05:48 PM
Marie,

You and Ed are in my prayers and thoughts. Whack that last met and enjoy some time together.

Love and healing to you,

Terri

Joan M
10-30-2008, 07:50 PM
Marie,

You and Ed are in my prayers to put a stop to these brain mets! I'm sorry to hear of the newly found met, but it's good to know that the gamma knife seems to have worked on the others.

Joan

Soccermom
10-30-2008, 08:09 PM
Just wanted to add my voice to the others~ thinking of you and Ed tonight!
Marcia

WomanofSteel
10-30-2008, 08:21 PM
Marie, just sending a prayer that Ed's back feels better and he can zap that last met so that the two of you can plan your next cruise.

Sherryg683
10-30-2008, 09:55 PM
There's no reason to believe that if it worked for the others, it won't work for this one. I know you just hate to see him have to go through all this again. How is he holding up mentally, he has been through so much, you have been his rock through all this...sherryg683

sassy
10-30-2008, 10:37 PM
Marie,

Please know that you are in all our thoughts and prayers. What works on 10 should work fine on one. Just another pesky step.

Lani
10-30-2008, 11:23 PM
excellent combination herceptin and lapatinib may be lifts your spirits:


Home > Abstracts & Virtual Meeting > Abstracts > 2008 ASCO Annual Meeting

Effect of lapatinib on accumulation of inactive HER2 at the cell membrane and on antibody-dependent cellular cytotoxicity (ADCC) mediated by trastuzumab: A novel mechanism for the enhanced effects of combined anti-HER2 therapy.
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Tyrosine Kinase Inhibitors
Category:
Developmental Therapeutics: Molecular Therapeutics
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2008 ASCO Annual Meeting
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Abstract No:
3594
Citation:
J Clin Oncol 26: 2008 (May 20 suppl; abstr 3594)
Author(s):
M. Scaltriti, C. Verma, M. Guzman, J. Jimenez, J. Parra, K. Pedersen, S. Landolfi, S. Ramon y Cajal, J. Arribas, J. Baselga
Abstract:
Background: Lapatinib is a HER2 tyrosine kinase inhibitor that has clinical activity in HER2 overexpressing (HER2+) breast cancer. In vitro and clinical studies have shown that lapatinib enhances the effects of the monoclonal antibody trastuzumab suggesting partially non-overlapping mechanisms of action. In order to dissect the differential mechanims of these agents, we have studied the effects of lapatinib and trastuzumab on receptor expression and signaling and have explored a new potential mechanism underlying the profound antitumor activity of the combination. Methods: HER2+ breast cancer cells SKBR3 and MCF7-HER2 were treated with lapatinib, trastuzumab or both. Assays of receptor expression, phosphorylation, signalling and tumor growth were performed. Trastuzumab-dependent cellular cytotoxicity was measured with different levels of HER2 expression and doses of lapatinib. Results: Lapatinib treatment of HER2+ breast cancer cells inhibited HER2 phosphorylation, prevented ubiquitination and resulted in a marked accumulation of inactive receptors at the cell surface. By contrast, trastuzumab caused enhanced HER2 phosphorylation, ubiquitination and degradation of the receptor. By immunoprecipitation and computational protein modelling techniques we further demonstrated that the lapatinib-induced accumulation of HER2 lead to stabilization of inactive HER2 homo- and hetero-dimers. Accumulation of HER2 induced by lapatinib and downregulation of HER2 mediated by trastuzumab were also observed in vivo, where the combination of the two agents triggered complete tumor remission in all cases after 10 days of treatment. Lapatinib-induced accumulation of HER2 at the cell surface markedly enhanced trastuzumab-mediated ADCC. Conclusions: Lapatinib results in a marked accumulation of inactive HER2 receptors at the cell surface both in vitro and in vivo. This increase in receptors number at the cell surface enhances ADCC by trastuzumab. We propose that this is a novel mechanism that may be clinically relevant and exploitable in the therapy of patients with HER2+ tumors.

SoCalGal
10-31-2008, 12:16 AM
Oh Marie - I will send some prayers to you and Ed. xo Flori

naturaleigh
10-31-2008, 07:17 AM
Marie,

The GK did its job last time and it will do it again!! This time should not be as stressful since he now knows what to expect. Many times the not knowing is more stressful than the actual procedure.

I hope his back starts feeling better soon too.

You will get through this bump in the road and before you know it, you will be cruising those open water again.

Lots of love and hugs to you both!!

Chelee
10-31-2008, 02:25 PM
Oh my goodness Marie...I am so sorry to hear about the recent news. But it sure sounds like Ed has a really good team of doctors so I am sure they will have a good plan of action.

I will be praying for Ed that they blast this last met into the twilight zone and you two can have some peace. May God bless you both and give you the strength you need to get this all behind you. I will keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. Hang in there. Sending you a really big cyber hug!

Chelee

Patb
10-31-2008, 03:02 PM
God bless you and Ed both and I will pray for extra
energy and strength to guide you through the next
treatment.
patb

juanita
11-01-2008, 03:52 PM
sending lots of hugs and prayers your way!

Jackie07
11-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Marie,

You are an amazing woman. Please know that we are all behind you. Ed is so lucky to have a spouse like you to back him up.

Sending prayers from Central Texas.

duga35
11-02-2008, 11:49 AM
God bless you both....
I know this has been such a battle for the both of you and my prayers are with you.
Please tell Ed that I feel very strongly that he will beat this horrible affliction.

Believe51
11-03-2008, 07:08 AM
One of two problems has escalated here; ONE being the brain met and TWO being the cervical spine which was something we have always watched. This suspicious area has bone marrow issues which could be simply bone mets to this spot. Although we are unsure of a secondary cancer at this time. Further testing needs to be done here, so we are getting orders written.

Friday evening close to 9pm our Oncologist called to check up on us. Our attack will be planned today and we already know what this needs to be. The important part is if the Gamma Knife doctor feels he can wait a couple of weeks to see if more mets declare themselves. Our Oncologist is going to wait for them answers for this puzzle. He feels that the cervical spine is not the issue the other radiologists may think they see without these scans (but who knows for sure?). This could be part of the ongoing saga in Ed's bones and maybe this is where the reoccurrence is happening.

So, Monday (today) is the day I call the Gamma Surgeon to see if we can wait atleast 2-3 weeks...Uggh! The call to our Oncologist will contain the appointment day for GammaMan and his orders. I will then have appointments with OncMan and his orders. These will all blend into communications with teams and by Wednesday we will aggressively put plans to work.

And for all of you here praying and a-wishing for our future.....We have planned another cruise for September 26th, 2009. Gorgeous room with extended balcony headed back to St. Thomas and includes St. Marteen and Nassau. I am all done looking forward to only test results, there has to be more to our lives, there has to be more reasons! Onward and forward. Hopefully though, we can leave the Decadron home.....LOL!

Love to all, thanks for your loving support>>Believe51

Mary Anne in TX
11-03-2008, 08:21 AM
You know, Marie, recently I've decided that it might be a better life just continuing to live "as if" in the "life-is-good-I-own-the-world" world! Had a dream the other night...you raced through it in your giant, early-80's, decked out convertible cadillac! Hair blowing, Ed laughing, and beautiful blue skies! Great moment!
I'll keep praying and you keep on believin'. ma

Bill
11-04-2008, 05:03 PM
Hi sweet Marie. I'm sorry to hear this about Ed's new met. However, it is good that the Gamma knifing worked so well on the others. I'm sorry if I've missed anything. I just got back, but you guys have been in my thoughts and prayers. You know, Marie, that this is just another battle/test in the war. You guys can do this!

jones7676
11-04-2008, 05:11 PM
Thinking of you and praying for the best for you.