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Cathya
11-01-2005, 01:57 PM
I didn't realize that taxol could have this effect. I and many of you had Taxol but this was never mentioned. Am I reading this article incorrectly? In any case, I am currently looking for curcumin capsules to take daily. Cathy

Curcumin Halts Spread of Breast Cancer in Mice
Early study shows spice stunts deadly spread to lungs
M. D. Anderson News Release 10/14/05

Curcumin, the main ingredient of turmeric and the compound that gives curry its mustard-yellow color, inhibits metastasis to the lungs of mice with breast cancer, report researchers at The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center.

The study, to be published in the Oct. 15 issue of the journal Clinical Cancer Research, reports that the spice appears to shut down a protein active in the spread of breast cancer to a major target for metastasis.

Though the study results are early, researchers found that the nontoxic natural substance not only repelled progression of the disease to the lungs, but also appeared to reverse the effects of paclitaxel (Taxolâ„¢), a commonly prescribed chemotherapy for breast cancer that may trigger spread of the disease with use over a long period of time.

Because Taxol is so toxic, it activates a protein that produces an inflammatory response that induces metastasis. Curcumin suppresses this response, making it impossible for the cancer to spread. In fact, researchers found that adding curcumin to Taxol actually enhances its effect. Curcumin breaks down the dose, making the therapy less toxic and just as powerful while delivering the same level of efficacy.

"We are excited about the results of the study and the possible implications for taking the findings into the clinic in the next several years," says Bharat Aggarwal, Ph.D., professor of cancer medicine in M. D. Anderson's Department of Experimental Therapeutics. "At this time, advanced breast cancer is a difficult foe to fight with few proven treatments available after surgery, chemotherapy and radiation therapy."

Taxol is currently used as the front-line chemotherapeutic agent in breast cancers, but because the drug frequently induces drug resistance after prolonged use, it is not effective in treating metastatic breast cancer, says Aggarwal.

Researchers studied 60 mice with breast cancer, which were randomly assigned to one of four groups: control group, Taxol only, curcumin only and the combination of Taxol and curcumin. After the tumors grew to 10 mm (about the size of a pea), they were surgically removed, and the mice were fed a powdered curcumin diet.

Macroscopic lung metastasis, or metastasis that is visible to the naked eye, was seen in 96 percent of the mice in the control group. Treatment using Taxol alone only "modestly reduced" the incidence of metastases, while the group using curcumin alone and curcumin plus Taxol "significantly reduced" both the incidence and numbers of visible lung metastases.

Microscopic metastasis, or metastasis that is visible only when using a microscope, was found in the lungs of 28 percent of mice treated with the combination of curcumin and Taxol, and there was no macroscopic disease present. The micrometastases present consisted of only a few cells, suggesting that the combination inhibited the growth of breast cancer tumor cells that were in the lung before the tumors were removed.

In a previous study published in the Aug. 15 issue of the journal Cancer,
M. D. Anderson researchers found that when the nuclear factor-kappa B (NF-kB) (a powerful protein known to promote the inflammatory response necessary to cause breast cancer to spread) is shut down, cancer strains are unable to grow and cells are pushed to commit suicide.

The mechanism in this curcumin study works the same way. Taxol activated the NF-kB in breast cancer cells, while curcumin stopped this activation by blocking the protein known as "IKK" that switched on the NF-kB, demonstrating how curcumin and Taxol work against one another. Taxol produced the inflammatory response, triggering metastasis, and curcumin suppressed it, causing cell death.

Extracted from the roots of the curcuma longa plant, curcumin is a member of the ginger family. While it is not used in conventional medicine, it is widely prescribed in Indian medicine as a potent remedy for liver disorders, rheumatism, diabetic wounds, runny nose, cough and sinusitis. Traditional Chinese medicine uses curcumin as a treatment for diseases associated with abdominal pain, and it is used in ancient Hindu medicine as a treatment for sprains and swelling.

According to the American Cancer Society, the chance of a woman having invasive breast cancer sometime during her life is one in eight. About 211,240 women in the United States will be diagnosed with invasive breast cancer in 2005, and approximately 40,410 women will die from the disease this year.

The study was funded by the United States Department of Defense. Co-authors include Shishir Shishodia, Ph.D.; Yasunari Takada, Ph.D.; Sanjeev Banerjee, Ph.D.; Robert A. Newman, Ph.D.; Carlos Bueso-Ramos, M.D., Ph.D.; and Janet E. Price, Ph.D.

CherylS
11-01-2005, 03:57 PM
Anybody? Are we reading this right? Why would they give us something that promotes metastasis?

Cathya
11-01-2005, 04:19 PM
Cheryl; This article was one I found in my monthly post from Artemis, a monthly breast cancer research publication from John Hopkins. You can see all of the articles at www.hopkinsbreastcenter.org/artemis (http://www.hopkinsbreastcenter.org/artemis)

I consider this a good source so ......?????? They have a chat line so perhaps I'll visit it to see if anyone is commenting on this article.

Cathy

Becky
11-01-2005, 05:05 PM
The article also points out "prolonged" taxatere and not a "normal" amount of rounds (especially the 4 in early stage). Also, if you are on chemotherapy (the same one) and your mets are not changing or getting smaller, you are leaving behind the stronger and more resistant cells.


I don't think most women have alot to worry about unless you are on the same chemo month in and month out without much progress. This article is saying that curcurmin helps and there have been other posted articles that says it does.

Becky

Alice
11-02-2005, 09:42 AM
In addition to the prolonged Taxol I presume it is more than the standard 4 cycles does it mention how much curcurmin was needed to get a response?

Many studies in the lab with mice give them so much of a substance it would be physically impossible to consume that much.I would be interested in seeing more literature about this

Lisa
11-02-2005, 12:11 PM
My cancer nutritionist recommended 700-1500 mg/day. You can find it as Tumeric.


Love and light,

Lisa

StephN
11-02-2005, 11:14 PM
Well, this is one I am passing on to my med onc.
I took TWENTY-SEVEN weekly treatments of Taxol with my navelbine and herceptin for my liver mets.

I got to NED and have stayed there for over 3 years to date.

We were going for a synergistic effect. Kill the cancer cells at various stages of division and then the Heceptin to shut them down another way. Worked for me.

Have to admit there may be something to this claim as the research is from M.D. Anderson in Houston. Hm-m-m-m ...

You can get the Turmeric Force by New chapter. I like this form of the spice.

AlaskaAngel
11-02-2005, 11:49 PM
To get the most effect, how do you take it when it isn't in curry? In a capsule? Does cooking it change its effectiveness?

Olive oil... freshly ground flaxseed... and turmeric...

A.A.

Unregistered
11-05-2005, 11:48 PM
Someone asked about getting Tumeric or curcumin capsules. I was able to find them at a health foods store. However, better than that--at least I think it may be--I was able to find it in package form at a store that sold foods/spices from India. In fact I was able to get a one-pound jar of 100% pure ground turmeric for $3.99. And, not that it mattered, I it even says on the jar that it is kosher. Funny thing, though, a few years ago, I broke open one of the capsules I had and added it to my vegetarian matzoh ball soup--everyone loved it!

sarah
01-21-2006, 04:15 AM
take it with meals - it can eat a hole in your stomach if you take it too often without food. i take it every day.

sarah

DeborahNC
01-21-2006, 06:32 AM
I'm taking 500mg turmeric in capsule form daily while on Taxol. There is some controvery about taking it with chemo as it is a powerful antioxidant, but I opted to take at least the 500; my onc had no problem with it.

The Life Extension Foundation recs 2700mg TID for BC patients which I will try to incorporate after chemo. As a post above stated turmeric can be purchased at an Indian food market ro many health food stores in bulk which is far less expensive than bottled.

The caution on the bottle says not to take during pregnancy or if you have ulcers, gall stones or bile duct obstruction. And ,yes, it can do a number on your stomach without food.

miraclethree
01-21-2006, 11:27 AM
Does anyone know what the effect of taking Curcumin is if you already have lung mets?