Question about olive leaf

[Morgan]

I'm finding the whole olive oil thing a bit confusing! I always use organic cold pressed unfiltered extra virgin olive oil (in dark bottle), thinking it is high in Omga 3 but today found a bottle of first cold pressed extra virgin italian olive oil with nutritional value on bottle and was shocked to see per 100ml polyunsaturates 8g of which alpha linolenic (omega3) .6g and linoleic (omega 6) 7.4g. This was a much higher ratio than I would have expected.
Maybe it's just me but would like some input.

Thanks
Morgan

[R.B.]

Morgan

Well done you have been label checking.

You will not find omega threes in olive in significant quantity or indeed in most vegetable oils with exceptions.

Olive oil has omega nine and phenols etc which are reported as reducing the BC risk. I have not seen a explanation as to exactly what the nines do but trials suggest olive helps.

DHA and EPA in oil form are only in fish oil, or some specialist vegetarian products.

So you will now have to find some fish oil too.

RB

[Morgan]

Thanks, I do take omega 3 supplements and have wild salmon but was just concerned with the omega 6, 9 wasn't mentioned on the bottle. I'm fairly new to all the supplements and never know how much of each to take or when, any tips? I'm highly ER+ and HER2+++

Morgan

[R.B.]

Morgan

There are no absolute answers and I cannot give advice beyond read round the subject, search your own prognosis and talk to your medical advisers.

Often trials simply have not been done.

There is a post on articles of interest on DHA intake in general terms.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ is useful. You can enter your search terms and it will pull up the trials.

This has some useful links on diet. http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...ght=greek+diet

and this to
http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...st+cancer+diet

I am sorry I cannot be more specific.


RB

[R.B.]

Morgan,

I forgot to mention that the omegas are families. The mother omega three is found in flax seed or oil. (Search on flax seed and talk to your onc - much deabte on this one)

The long chain children DHA and EPA are found in oily fish as you appear to be aware.

So you can look at different ways of getting you fats, UDOs is a 3,6,9 but you get the nine in olive oil, and mother three is found in flax etc.

Yes the body can convert the mother omega three but a large number of things block it so arguably best be prudent.

Omega six is essential but the most difficult to avoid if you used prepared food, grain fed live stock etc.

Omega six is stored in fat so you may have reserves. Breast fat takes months to change gluteal longer.

I am afraid you just have to do lots of reading consult with advisers and make the best decision you can, monitor if possible etc.

RB

[RobinP]

Morgan and Michele,

Flaxseed oil also contains Oleic acid, ... Menendez previously showed that oleic acid ( and GLA) suppresses over-expression of the Her-2/neu gene. Flaxseed oil is also a very rich source of Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA), an Omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid. I just thought you may both want to know the efficacy percentages of the various fat/oil additives. The following article addresses that and by far, ALA seems to reduce her2 the most, above EPA and the PUFAs but GLA, found in borage and primrose oil, also follows an efficacy close to ALA.

http://www.cababstractsplus.org/goog...No=20043195802

[michele u]

straight virgin olive oil is very fattening! I took it when going through chemo, but i don't want to get all the fat now. Is there a less fattening way to get Oleic acid?