Question about olive leaf

[michele u]

with all the talk about Oleic acid, i have some Olive Leaf tablets from Nature's way. These are the one Gina recommended. But the ingredients are 12% oleuropein (250mg) and olive leaf 250mg. Is this the same as Oleic acid? I want to get the right stuff

[R.B.]

Olive leaf as a supplement and oleic acid oil are different.

The naming of fats is confusing. I guess olive oil is where they first found this omega nine fat so that is why it is called oleic acid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleic_acid

In that it is a straight daisy chain of carbon atoms it is in the same grouping as the omega threes and sixes which are also long straight daisy chains.

You will find oleic acid omega nine in olive oil. It has to be extra virgin ideally and preferably in dark glass bottles. Refined olive oil is high in omega six, and may loose a lot of the other chemicals that are found with "untreated" oils.

Here is a link for olive leaf which I have not looked at and do not know much about http://www.anyvitamins.com/olive_leaf_extract.htm

RB

[Morgan]

I'm finding the whole olive oil thing a bit confusing! I always use organic cold pressed unfiltered extra virgin olive oil (in dark bottle), thinking it is high in Omga 3 but today found a bottle of first cold pressed extra virgin italian olive oil with nutritional value on bottle and was shocked to see per 100ml polyunsaturates 8g of which alpha linolenic (omega3) .6g and linoleic (omega 6) 7.4g. This was a much higher ratio than I would have expected.
Maybe it's just me but would like some input.

Thanks
Morgan

[R.B.]

Morgan

Well done you have been label checking.

You will not find omega threes in olive in significant quantity or indeed in most vegetable oils with exceptions.

Olive oil has omega nine and phenols etc which are reported as reducing the BC risk. I have not seen a explanation as to exactly what the nines do but trials suggest olive helps.

DHA and EPA in oil form are only in fish oil, or some specialist vegetarian products.

So you will now have to find some fish oil too.

RB

[Morgan]

Thanks, I do take omega 3 supplements and have wild salmon but was just concerned with the omega 6, 9 wasn't mentioned on the bottle. I'm fairly new to all the supplements and never know how much of each to take or when, any tips? I'm highly ER+ and HER2+++

Morgan

[R.B.]

Morgan

There are no absolute answers and I cannot give advice beyond read round the subject, search your own prognosis and talk to your medical advisers.

Often trials simply have not been done.

There is a post on articles of interest on DHA intake in general terms.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ is useful. You can enter your search terms and it will pull up the trials.

This has some useful links on diet. http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...ght=greek+diet

and this to
http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...st+cancer+diet

I am sorry I cannot be more specific.


RB

[TSund]

hmmm...so for one on chemo and acid blockers, how can you get magnesium through skin? any alternatives to Epsom salt baths?

THX

TRS