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Old 04-04-2012, 05:21 PM   #1
mimi1952
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Tool

Anyone have thoughts about this tool online called cancermath.net? Not especially hopeful for us...
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Her 2+ grade 3 erpr-
5cm plus dcis left breast
2+nodes of 11
bilateral mastectomy
ACT herceptin 1 year
37 rads
immediate reconstruction w/implants but failed due to radiated side
2009 CT shows 4mm ground glass left lung and developed sarcoidosis.
2010 CT shows 5 mm ground glass left lung
delayed reconstruction bilateral tram
2011 CT shows 5 mm ground glass left lung
NED Sept 2011
2011 PET shows 2 new ground glass opacities in left lung. Will run new scans in 6 months
2012 PET is stable: 4 years NED
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:58 PM   #2
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Re: Tool

These kinds of tools aren't really helpful for us - based on statistics that may not give weight to the newer therapies and higher survival probabilities since Herceptin for HER2+. I had two tumors and they were different in histology so I tried using the path info on each tumor. Then I played around with some made up numbers and it didn't really change much. I try to be realistic about my future (it's way easier to be realistic at 63 than it was at, say, 40) - but also don't put much faith in these calculators. I think most of the folks on this forum would feel the same.
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12/03/2010 - finished 33 rads Hooray!! cont. Herc. every 3 wks
4/2011 - pneumonia ??? Nope-radiation pneumonitis. No more Herc.
5/2011 - NED!!! port out.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:03 PM   #3
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Re: Tool

Mimi - I meant to add something about the 'ground glass opacity' you have in your x-rays. Has anyone mentioned something called radiation pneumonitis to you? I had bacterial pneumonia about a year ago but didn't get much better after the antibiotics cleared up the bacterial infection. Went back into the hospital and had more tests and was finally diagnosed with the pneumonits. It's good to find about it as soon as possible because if it goes as far as radiation fibrosis, the outcome is much worse. Am taking a very low dose of prednisone every other day now which keeps things under control. I did have to see a pulmonologist to get it diagnosed and treated. Don't let this go if you have other symptoms like shortness of breath, fatigue or other pneumonia-like problems.
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Joni -64 yrs old -
3/01/10: found lump in rt.breast
3/12/10: mammogram/ultrasnd/biopsy-invasive bc & DCIS; 2 tumors (2cm er-/pr-/HER2-& 1.8 cm er-/pr-/HER2+); grade 3;poorly differentiated
3/24/10:sent.node biopsy clear
3/31/10:bi-lateral mx.;atypical ductal hyperplasia-lft side
4/21/10:wound revision-infection/scarring 4/28/10:seromas both sides
5/21/10:port installed,TCH chemo (6 x 3 wks); Herc,-1yr; 33 rad tx after chemo
07/2010: port not working-2nd port didnt'work;3rd port opposite side.
07/2010: 2 weeks after 3rd port surgery, threw 3 pulm. emboli-IVC filter installed; warfarin
08/2010: hospitalizations w/3 of chemos; decision to stop after 4th-on to radiation in Oct 2010;Herc cont.
12/03/2010 - finished 33 rads Hooray!! cont. Herc. every 3 wks
4/2011 - pneumonia ??? Nope-radiation pneumonitis. No more Herc.
5/2011 - NED!!! port out.
8/2011 - clean PET & CT scans.Still NED
7/2012 - Still NED/very blessed.
2/2013 - 6 mos checkup-all clear. CA2729 down frm 13 to 11.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:32 PM   #4
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Re: Tool

Don't worry about the statistics. They either give people false security or reinforce their panic mode.

Breast cancer only occurs to one in eight women of the general population. Yet all of us on this Board have got it!

Once a statistics is published, it's 'old'. A scientific paper takes a long time to get published (yes, even in this electronic age) because of the reviewing process.

I was first diagnosed in 2003 and ound the recurrence in 2007 (it's always there, but the mammogram was misread as 'scar tissue' for four years straight). Both times my oncologist had reassured me that I was 'cured'. Should I believe him again? Should I worry about the statistics?

For an optimistic person (such as myself , it doesn't matter how bad the statistics look, he/she will always believe he/she will beat the odds. For a pessimistic person, it doesn't matter how good the statistics look, he/she will always think about the worst scenario.

Use the tool to your own advantage...
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Old 04-06-2012, 09:46 AM   #5
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Re: Tool

Joni,
Thank you for the info on the lung issue. I have not heard of radiation pneumonitis. I am due for another PET scan in October at Moffitt Cancer Center. I will talk to my thoraic oncologist about it.
Thanks.
I try not to think about stats, but sometimes I just let myself get down...
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Diagnosed July 2008
Stage 3A
Her 2+ grade 3 erpr-
5cm plus dcis left breast
2+nodes of 11
bilateral mastectomy
ACT herceptin 1 year
37 rads
immediate reconstruction w/implants but failed due to radiated side
2009 CT shows 4mm ground glass left lung and developed sarcoidosis.
2010 CT shows 5 mm ground glass left lung
delayed reconstruction bilateral tram
2011 CT shows 5 mm ground glass left lung
NED Sept 2011
2011 PET shows 2 new ground glass opacities in left lung. Will run new scans in 6 months
2012 PET is stable: 4 years NED
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