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Old 04-25-2013, 02:10 AM   #1
Julia Ann
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Nails

I am newly diagnosed HER2+++. I will be having a mastectomy on Monday then begin chemo with TCH about three weeks after that. I have had acrylic nails for several years. My question is should I have those removed before surgery or before chemo starts or leave them? When I went for my pre-op, they said that they were fine at the hospital. The oxygen sensor was able to pick up so there wasn't a problem with that. I know one of the drugs in the TCH regimen affects nails and I didn't know what would be best. I know when I remove them that my nails will be extremely weak and I didn't know what would be best. Would the acrylic be more protective knowing what nails are like when you first remove them. I know in the grand scheme of things that this is trivial but...right now its important to me.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:15 AM   #2
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Re: Nails

My docs did not want me to have acrylic nails during chemo--not because of the acrylic, but because of the risk of infection having them done. I personally feel that allowing the nails to breath during chemo would be a good idea since you may experience some lifting and slight problems with the chemo.

I kept mine fairly short and they did get weak, but returned to normal shortly after finishing chemo.

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Old 04-25-2013, 12:42 PM   #3
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Re: Nails

I kept having mine done and still do. I have crappy nails and like you, I wanted to keep on getting them done. I never have them long so they are probably short compared to most women who get them. I never had any problems. I do think it's very important to have someone who knows what you are going through so they are extra careful. Of course, cleanliness and an excellent health rating are always important. Just wanted to share my experience. I never had any nail problems during my treatment.
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Completed 3 month clinical trial of weekly Herceptin and 1000mg Tykerb daily
Tumor no longer present
Right mastectomy and lymph node removal 09/25/09
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:19 PM   #4
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Re: Nails

I was told to stay far, far, far away from mani/pedis. I don't do acrylic - but I am pretty sure that the reasoning was infection.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:58 AM   #5
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Re: Nails

My strong advice would be the same as that of Sassy.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:00 PM   #6
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Re: Nails

Everyone reacts differently to chemo. I didn't have manicures or pedicures, kept my finger nails short, unpolished (not even clear) and took good care of my cuticles, etc.

Everything was looking good until just before my 5th chemo - nails are all colors of the rainbow (brown, beige, reddish) and a couple have separated from the nail bed but are still attached. They are disgusting and I will have to wait until everything grows out, probably about 6 months or so. Have started getting manicures again but have to use dark polish since my nails are so discolored.

My feet, on the other hand, are fine. Had my first pedi a couple of weeks ago - pure bliss :-).

I guess what I'm saying is that I wouldn't do acrylics but I would have continued with regular manicures using my own tools and no cutting of cuticles. It would have been a nice mental lift

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Old 04-29-2013, 05:47 PM   #7
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Re: Nails

I just finished #5 and nails are now just getting discolored. I personally gave up on my regular pedis but if you do continue, I was told to bring my own tools because of the risk of infection. The Look Good Feel Better class offered by the breast cancer society was very informative and I highly recommend it. All kinds of tips. Infection is very real during chemo.

Best of luck with your surgery.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:08 PM   #8
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Re: Nails

Hi Julia,
I, too was very concerned about my nails. Sooooo, after lots of reading I:
1. Kept my fingernails on frozen peas during chemo infusions.
2. Got regular manicures and pedicures with my regular "lady" who used my tools.
3. She always used a nail strengther as the base coat.

I NEVER HAD ONE loose nail or discolored nail. It was very important to me to have nice nails.... I give piano lessons, and I didn't want to "gross" out my 6 students.....
Good luck!
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:39 PM   #9
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Re: Nails

I'm on chemo ..hmm....#100? 3 years weekly. My nails have been fine up until recently on gemzar. I would not remove your acrylics. You are going to weaken your nails and cause problems.

The reasons that some oncologists don't want us to go get our nails done is our white count can get low and then we are susceptible to infection. You will know that as you get your counts weekly, so you just don't make an appointment then.

After my first TCH was over and before I was metastatic, I went and got gels put on. (My nails grow fast so I didn't like acrylics). All was well but again, my mals grew too fast so I gave them up.

Good luck!
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10/20/2009: Right mastectomy, reconstruction with TE
12/02/2009: Six rounds TCH, switched to Taxol halfway through due to neuropathy
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05/01/2010: Began tamoxifen, the worst drug ever
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11/26/2011: C-Diff Superbug Infection, "worst case doctor had seen in 20 years"
03/28/2012: Progression in ablated section of the liver - no more cure. Started Abraxane, continue herceptin/zometa
10/10/2012: Progression continues, started Halaven, along with herceptin and zometa.
01/15/2013: Progression continues, started Gemzar and Perjeta, an unusual combo, continuing with herceptin and zometa
03/13/2013: Quit Gemzar, body just won't handle it. Staying on herceptin, zometa and perjeta.
04/03/2013: CT shows 50% regression in tumor, so am starting back on Gemzar with dose reduction, staying with perjeta/herceptin/zometa. Can't argue with success!
05/09/2013: Discussing SBRT with Radiology due to inability of bone marrow to recover from chemo.
06/07/2013: Fiducial placement for SBRT
07/03/2013: Chemo discontinued, on Perjeta, Herceptin and Zometa alone
07/25/2013: SBRT (gamma knife) begins
08/01/2013: SBRT completed
08/15/2013: STABLE! continuing with Perjeta, Herceptin, Zometa
06/18/2014: ***** NED!!!!***** continuing with Perjeta, Herceptin, Zometa
01/29/2014: Still NED. continuing with Perjeta, Herceptin. Zometa lowered to every 3 months instead of monthly.
11/08/2015: Progression throughout abdomen and lungs. Started TDM-1, aka Kadcyla. Other meds discontinued. Remission was nice while it lasted.

5/27/18: Stable. Kadcyla put me right back in the barn. I have two teeny spots on my lungs that are metabolically inactive, and liver is clean.

I’m beating this MFer. I was 51 when this started and had two kids, 22 and 12. Now I’m 60. My oldest got married and trying to start s family. My youngesg graduates from Caltech this June. My stepdaughter gave me grandkids. Life is fantastic.
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:27 PM   #10
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Re: Nails

I have had acrylic nails for 20 years. I, very sadly, removed them between my first and second chemo treatments. I did everything I could to keep my nails healthy and strong throughout my chemo time. I was very careful with them. However, my nails got infected and some even bleed. I was grateful that I didn't have the acrylics on at the time. The infection wasn't caused by any clipping or filing I did on my nails. I just had a very weird reaction to Taxotere. No one knows how our bodies will reaction to chemo. I had no problems with my nails until AFTER my last TCH treatment. I think you should do whatever you can to mitigate any problems. You can always put the acrylic back on when you're done if you don't have issues.

As a side note - I am actually liking the very short and painted look of my nails right now. I'm not sure if I'll put the acrylic back on or not....

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2 cm - Grade 2 - Stage IIB
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ER+/PR+
bilateral mastectomy 20Jul2012
Metastasized cancer found 1 lymph node
expanders placed during surgery
TCH chemo "cocktail" started 24Aug2012
every 3 weeks - 6 treatments
Herceptin - 18 treatments
LAST treatment Taxotere & Carboplatin 7Dec2012 -yay!
Continue with Herceptin 26Dec2012

Started Arimidex 01Jan2013 (for 5 years)
Surgery to remove expanders/reconstruction 18Jan2013
Infection in left breast from reconstruction/infection in most nails - SO many meds! 22Feb2013
Left implant not playing nice.... might need to remove and try again - blah! 04Apr2013
3Jul2013 - one year since diagnosis - booo cancer!

15Aug2013 LAST chemo infusion!! YIPPPEEE!!!
13Sep2013 2nd reconstructive surgery.. the FOOBs are looking good!



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