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Old 01-24-2013, 06:17 PM   #1
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Tired of being tired

After 4 mos of TCH , then 3 weeks later masectomy, now on 2nd week of rads, and 2nd herceptin alone yesterday, and back to work 2nd week full time I am tired. I feel people's expectations of me is I should be my Pre-cancer self. I don't like to be too far from home, so if I get tired or whatever I can come home. I have people ask what my plans are for the weekend, and I say I don't know. Then they want to make a plan to do something, and I don't or won't commit because if I do and don't follow through it would be a disappointment to whomever. It's like I have fear of committing and making plans in advance now.

I am tired! I don't think anyone gets it, but I am hoping someone on this board does! Feedback would be great is this just me?
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9/2012 Pre-adjunctive TCH chemo.

12/6/12 MRI after Pre-adj.
Results: Modest Decrease in size of left breast malignancy As well as the associated satellite lesions and auxiliary Adenopathy compared to prior study. Doctors hoped for better but good response it didn't grow.

12/18/2012 left masectomy with axillary nodes
Size 3.2 CM, Nottingham score 9/9
Grade 3, no evidence of in situ carcinoma
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Size of largest node 1.5 cm
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2/27/13 6 weeks of IMRT radiation finished

2/2013 Started on Tamoxifan 5 years.

8/2013 will take last Herceptin, 17 treatments total every 3 weeks.

BRCA1 & BRAC2 - Negative

August 28, 2013 DIEP flap on the left breast.
February 2014 Nip & Tuck
March 14, 2014 nipple reconstruction and removed port.
August 14, 2014 lump in lymph nodes under arm and above clavicle. Stage IV
August 28, 2014 herceptin And projeta starting and port put back in.

3/18/15 stopped arimidex.
3/18/15 progression....Tdm1
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:55 PM   #2
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Re: Tired of being tired

Of course you are tired! Certainly everybody here can understand that, after all the treatment you are still undergoing. Listen to your body and rest as much as you want. It sounds as if you also need to try to explain to your friends that it takes a long time to fully recover from chemo, and that you are still having treatment with its own side effects. I found it helpful to get out and about, but always made it clear that I could not make unbreakable commitments - real friends should be able to accept that.
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3/12: began on Marianne trial - T-DM1 + Pertuzamab/Placebo.
5/12:Unexpected development of numerous bilateral liver mets. Came off trial.
Started Docetaxol/ Herceptin + Zometa.
8/12:Bones stable +major regression in liver (!)
9/12:Can't take any more Docetaxol! Start on Herceptin and Tamoxifen. Cross fingers!
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11/12: Scan shows stable - yay!
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2/19: Happily still stable on Herceptin, Letrozole and 3 monthly Zometa.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:52 PM   #3
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Re: Tired of being tired

Radiation treatment can get you tired. I felt more 'tired' during radiation than undergoing chemo!

Sleep whenever you can (close your eyes and taking a short naps may help) Eat well and take a 30-minute walk everyday. Exercise get the blood circulation going and speed up healing/tissue repairing/endorphin boosting...
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:10 PM   #4
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Re: Tired of being tired

I found that people just wanted things (me) back to normal...all nice and tidy! They may think you want to jump back into the real world with both feet and leave the nastiness behind...unrealistic! Rads made me so tired some days and i didnt want them to! Along with all the sage advice here, be kind to yourself and forgiving of family and friends who are muddling their way through too.
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Biopsy- DCIS, IDC, er-/pr-/her2+++, grade3. 1 node suspicious on us. Biopsy +.
Plan was for Neoadjuvant TCH x6, Herceptin q3w x a year.
May1- first chemo.
May 5- I could no longer feel the mass. Really. Neither could my oncologist.
July 2- 4th TCH- Oncologist cancels last 2 tx due to "complete response"
August6- lumpectomy with axillary node dissection. No disease present in breast. 1 out of 14 nodes + (4mm)
MUGA #2- 72%
Finished 30 rads Oct '12. Mild lymphedema noticed when I had 2 rads left.
Continue Herceptin q3w until next May
April '13- first mammo since surgery- calcium deposits that are " not concerning." Well, they are concerning to ME! Turned loose from surgeon for 6 months! One more Vit H, will make plans then for port removal.
Oct '13- no change in calcium deposits. "See ya in 6 months!" Keeping port for now.
March '14- oncologist says return in 6 mo.
April '14- mammo unchanged. Surgeon will see me in 6 months but no mammo for a year unless something changes. Its getting easier, but oh, boydo i hate that scanxiety! Keeping port until 2 year anniversary of last Herceptin.
Sept'14- bloodwork good, return to onco in 8 months.
Oct'14- surgeon will see me in April '15. Moving on.
May '15- mammo unchanged, keeping same schedule. Tumor markers soon and if all is well port comes out.
July '15-tumor markers normal. See onco in a year. Appt. for port end of month. First grandchild born July 1st- for today, life is good.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:21 PM   #5
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Re: Tired of being tired

I was diagnosed in July 2012 as well. I had a bilateral mastectomy in July and then did 6 treatments of TCH. That ended in Dec but I continued with Herceptin. I "get" to miss out on radiation but had my reconstructive surgery last Friday. I have been tired non stop since the day I was told I had BC. I have worked full time through most of my treatment (I would take a few days off after a chemo day) but was able to work a majority of the days from my home. If I go into my office - I usually leave early... it is just too much. (my office is a 35 minute drive one way)

I actually feel MORE tired with just the Herceptin...ugh. I have the same issue with people wanting to "do" something on the weekends. I think it is more for them then for me. I think it makes them feel better if they see me do or go places again. It's as if I never had cancer- like it was a bad cold or something. Maybe I'm simplifying what friends/family think but I totally get how you are feeling. I am just plain tired, too! I tell whomever asks that I won't know how I will feel until that day.

The funny thing - or most annoying thing - is that most nights I have insomnia. GO FIGURE.

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expanders placed during surgery
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Infection in left breast from reconstruction/infection in most nails - SO many meds! 22Feb2013
Left implant not playing nice.... might need to remove and try again - blah! 04Apr2013
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:36 PM   #6
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Re: Tired of being tired

I was incredibly fatigued during chemo and through radiation. I found that unless one has been through treatment it is quite difficult to understand that (1) chemo is just one of many treatments we are undergo (2) just because hair is growing back doesn't mean you are "back to normal". I agree that you might try (with the understanding that people may still not get it) to explain that ALL of the treatments produce fatigue, that the fatigue may be cumulative within and across treatments and that the fatigue is or can be quite long lasting (plenty of research to back this up). We are not talking about days or weeks or even months here before one feels as good as before. Most of the patients I have known have experienced fatigue for years after treatment, especially if chemo was involved. You MUST look out for yourself, particularly because even very well intentioned family and friends may not get it. Do everything in your power to take good care of yourself and sleep as much as you need (which will likely be a lot). Don't worry too much about what others think ..........you are not going to be on their imagined schedule for you. Let others help you and do not feel guilty. And ask and try and get the help you need.
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