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Old 09-07-2007, 07:06 AM   #1
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BC treament and Hypothyroidism

I have hypothyroidism, and have been on synthetic thyroxin (levaxin) since 2001. Had a lumpectomy in september 05.

Also posted this as answer to Susan M in the Herceptin forum.

Went through chemo and radiation last year, been on tamox for 1 ½ yr, and finished my year of herceptin in May. My TSH has been getting lower and lower, and at the same time I have been feeling worse. Fatigue and depression, severe brain fog, muscle and joint aches i a. For me, typically hypo symptoms, but of course it could also be side effects from the bc treatment. I believe that’s what the docs wanted to me to think it was. In sept last year I complained about this to my doc, she suggested anti-depressiva, and me to visit a psychologist. I refused any more drugs with side effects, but agreed to start in therapy

In February, after almost a year into tamox treatment I noticed the freeT4 was low even if the TSH was low. Increased my dose in spite of what the doc said. She was sooo afraid to let the TSH go below 0.2. Felt a bit better, but the depression and the brain fog was still there. Then I asked to measure free T3, and it was very low! Asked for synthetic T3 (here Liothyronin, think it is called cytomel in US) to combine w thyroxin, but my doc had never heard about it. After a lot of tears, she agreed to give me some, and as my T4 also was a bit low, I just added a small dose to the thyroxin dose. It is otherwise recommended to lower the thyroxin dose to avoid hyper symptoms.

After 3 days the brain fog went away! And the insomnia!

After 2 weeks the depression was gone!

My TSH is now 0.03, I have no hyper symptoms, but my mental state is still a bit unstable. However, the continual faint-heartedness I felt before starting on T3 meds is completely gone.

After searching I found that tamox interacts with thyroxine. My onc never told me this, even when I asked, and talked about getting off it. And who knows, Herceptin might be doing the same. There just haven't been any studies about it... (I don’t have the link to the study I found, my husband got hold of it through the university archive. I will post the abstract.)

I still have aches, fatigue, and some headaches, and I guess it’s the herceptin. I believe my body is drained from all the chemicals and synthetics I have taken the last years, and I’m doing what I can to detox. But that’s another story and another post
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:53 PM   #2
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hypothyroid / tamox

I am struggling with this also. I did not have chemo or herceptin, but my thyroid levels are lower. I am gaining weight without any change to my diet or exercise routine. I am also tired and my memory is not right. Thanks for posting. susan
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:30 AM   #3
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The thyroid is a touchy and oh so important gland. It takes its own good time to respond, but respond it will to stressful conditions. I know I've had my rounds with effects of hormones during pregancy as well as chemo treatments and decadron affecting it. I quickly learned that the very best person to see for thyroid and its many nuances is an endocrinologist. I know, just what you need is yet another doc, but considering the quiet but essential function thyroid has, isn't it worth it? Once it's under control, you won't have to see your endocrinologist very often for followup. I suspect your onc or primary care docs will be quite happy to have an endo's advice under the circumstances. Good Luck!
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