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Old 09-04-2014, 05:38 PM   #1
Arlyce Kusler
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Holistic approach if you believe or if you tried?

I'm Her2+ and just finished my chemo today and start radiation next month for 7 weeks. I was wondering if any has tried or your thoughts on the holistic approach. My sister keeps talking about it with me and I'm scared to not just follow my doctors regiment. Please share your thought, not sure what to do.

Thank you for your time.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:16 PM   #2
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Re: Holistic approach if you believe or if you tried?

Arlyce,

I tried to find information on a holistic approach that was successful for a large number of patients when I was first diagnosed. I looked and looked, and was not confident in what I found.

My advice is to combine the two approaches. Chemo is over, radiation is next, Herceptin for the remainder of the year.

To this you can add changes in diet, appropriate levels of exercise, meditation, stress reduction, acupuncture, massage, energy work, etc.

I would not skip the doctor's regiment. There is not a way that has been successfully incorporated into the current Standard of Care guidelines to share who can skip treatments, and who needs them. The closest information is the testing that is done for the ER positive tumors. You didn't mention Mammaprint or any other test, my guess is either you are ER negative, or you didn't do this testing.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:57 PM   #3
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Re: Holistic approach if you believe or if you tried?

I am chiming in to agree with 'Lizbeth, Arlyce. I started out with one tumor that was not HER2+++ in my right breast and I was hoping to avoid chemo. I had weeks to do all sorts of research both before and after my double mastectomy revealed I had HER2+++ in the "healthy" breast (see my signature) If you go through this site carefully, you'll find discussions and see signatures from women who started out using the holistic approach and the cancer came back with a vengeance. I wouldn't skip the remainder of your treatment regimen, either.

I too say combine the two approaches as 'Lizbeth suggested. That is really the best of both worlds!

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July 24, 2013: "Infected" Right Nipple and benign cyst removed, pathology report revealed Paget's, DCIS, and ILC 1.25 cm, ER+/Pro+/HER2 equivocal, Grade 2 under benign cyst, previous diagnostic mammo/ultrasound said I was perfectly healthy in both breasts.

Aug 18, 2013: MRI report says Left breast is perfectly healthy "consistent with previous studies".

Sept 2013: I insist on a bilateral mastectomy anyway. Too nervewracking to let left breast remain with higher risk after 3 cancers in right, nipple in right is already gone anyhow.

Sept 18, 2013: Bilateral mastectomy, 11 right nodes removed, ALL negative BUT -- ER+/PRO+/HER2+ tumor, 1.0 cm, Grade 2 found in a piece of "grossly unremarkable" breast tissue from prophylactic mastectomy of left breast, no nodes removed.

Oct 25, 2013: 13 left side nodes removed, ALL negative, Stage 1 across the board, NO RADS needed, YAAAAY! Port also installed.

Nov 25, 2013 Begin 6 rounds TCH.

March 10, 2014 Just finished 6th and LAST Chemo today, YAAAAAY!

March 24, 2014 Echocardiogram to make sure I'm still good for Herceptin every 3 weeks.

March 31, 2014 Echo results NORMAL, first Herceptin all by itself. Now if only my eyes would stop streaming from the Taxotere ... :)

April 21, 2014 Started Arimidex and therapy for "mild" lymphedema in left hand and arm

May 2014 Therapy completed, I have sleeves and gloves for both arms, a Flexi touch lymph pump to hook up to for an hour every day, and I've become an arm bandaging expert. :)

June 2014 Begin Fosamax to prevent osteoporosis; bone scan revealed osteopenia

Nov 17, 2014 FINAL Herceptin!

Dec 4, 2014 My right thigh muscle has been extra achy for days ... I discover a blister rash cluster on the side of my right thigh while taking a shower. Port appointment cancelled until Dec 17, my doc is working me in tomorrow afternoon to see me and the rash. My muscle at least feels less achy.

Dec 5, 2014 Yep, I have shingles. Boo! I start acyclovir and also have a prescription for a painkiller just in case for over the weekend.

Dec 17, 2014 Port is OUT!

January 2016 Shingles again and this time it started where my left breast (where the hidden HER2+++ tumor was!) used to be. My onc nurse got me a same day appointment to see my doc when I called and told her I had a rash on the site. The antiviral meds are working once again, though, so that is good news. :)
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:11 AM   #4
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Re: Holistic approach if you believe or if you tried?

Once you become NED from initial treatment you can pursue a holistic lifestyle for cancer prevention.
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Additional treatments:
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Old 09-06-2014, 11:50 AM   #5
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Re: Holistic approach if you believe or if you tried?

Ditto again, Arlyce! BTW, what a pretty name!

CA
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July 24, 2013: "Infected" Right Nipple and benign cyst removed, pathology report revealed Paget's, DCIS, and ILC 1.25 cm, ER+/Pro+/HER2 equivocal, Grade 2 under benign cyst, previous diagnostic mammo/ultrasound said I was perfectly healthy in both breasts.

Aug 18, 2013: MRI report says Left breast is perfectly healthy "consistent with previous studies".

Sept 2013: I insist on a bilateral mastectomy anyway. Too nervewracking to let left breast remain with higher risk after 3 cancers in right, nipple in right is already gone anyhow.

Sept 18, 2013: Bilateral mastectomy, 11 right nodes removed, ALL negative BUT -- ER+/PRO+/HER2+ tumor, 1.0 cm, Grade 2 found in a piece of "grossly unremarkable" breast tissue from prophylactic mastectomy of left breast, no nodes removed.

Oct 25, 2013: 13 left side nodes removed, ALL negative, Stage 1 across the board, NO RADS needed, YAAAAY! Port also installed.

Nov 25, 2013 Begin 6 rounds TCH.

March 10, 2014 Just finished 6th and LAST Chemo today, YAAAAAY!

March 24, 2014 Echocardiogram to make sure I'm still good for Herceptin every 3 weeks.

March 31, 2014 Echo results NORMAL, first Herceptin all by itself. Now if only my eyes would stop streaming from the Taxotere ... :)

April 21, 2014 Started Arimidex and therapy for "mild" lymphedema in left hand and arm

May 2014 Therapy completed, I have sleeves and gloves for both arms, a Flexi touch lymph pump to hook up to for an hour every day, and I've become an arm bandaging expert. :)

June 2014 Begin Fosamax to prevent osteoporosis; bone scan revealed osteopenia

Nov 17, 2014 FINAL Herceptin!

Dec 4, 2014 My right thigh muscle has been extra achy for days ... I discover a blister rash cluster on the side of my right thigh while taking a shower. Port appointment cancelled until Dec 17, my doc is working me in tomorrow afternoon to see me and the rash. My muscle at least feels less achy.

Dec 5, 2014 Yep, I have shingles. Boo! I start acyclovir and also have a prescription for a painkiller just in case for over the weekend.

Dec 17, 2014 Port is OUT!

January 2016 Shingles again and this time it started where my left breast (where the hidden HER2+++ tumor was!) used to be. My onc nurse got me a same day appointment to see my doc when I called and told her I had a rash on the site. The antiviral meds are working once again, though, so that is good news. :)
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