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04-12-2010, 05:31 AM
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Alcohol and recurrance?
Hello,
What is the latest information on the effect of consuming alcohol and recurrence of breast cancer? I heard that research was presented at San Antonio, supports this. Am I putting myself at higher risk for recurrence? I enjoy a daily glass of wine. Thanks.
Brenda
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Diagnosed 3/08 at age 57
1.1cm tumor, ER-PR-, Her2 3+(rt side)
Grade 2
Node negative
clean margins
Stage 1
lumpectomy 4/08
Mammocite Radiation 4/08
Will begin TCH Chemo 5/08
TCH 3 week cycle for 6 cycles
Herceptin alone for 18 more treatments on a 3 week cycle
Total chemo 12 months
Neulasta 24 hours after each cycle
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04-12-2010, 06:30 AM
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Re: Alcohol and recurrance?
Brenda,
These findings remain controversial. Here is a link to a thread on that topic in the nutrition forum: http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...eferrerid=1173
Hopeful
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04-12-2010, 01:43 PM
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Re: Alcohol and recurrance?
I think I drink more after bc than before!!!!!
I think all in moderation is okay, but who knows???
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Dx July '05 IDC 1.9cm Triple positive 3/9 nodes positive
A/C X 4 ..Taxol/Herceptin x 12 wks then herceptin 1 yr
Rads x 36 ..oophorectomy August '06
Currently taking Arimidex..
June 2011 osteopenia/ zometa x1 yearly- stopped Zometa 2015 as Dexa show normal bone density.
Stopped Arimidex July 2014- Restarted Arimidex 2015 for a further two years on the advice of my Onc.
2014 Normal Dexa scan
2018 Mammo all clear, still NED!
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04-12-2010, 04:19 PM
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Re: Alcohol and recurrance?
Wine (one glass/day) is supposed to be good for the heart and possibly have some other benefit. Since you are PR- ER-, a glass of wine shouldn't be a problem. Please check with your doctor for confirmation.
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Jackie07
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2
NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa
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04-12-2010, 06:36 PM
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Re: Alcohol and recurrance?
I must admit I, too, drink a bit more now since bc. Wine & wine tasting is a big part of our social scene. I grew up in the Australian wine country, and now live in Washington State.
My husband and I really enjoy our wine with the evening meal, and with friends on a weekend. Keeps me happy, and I just celebrated 8 years since diagnosis with a trip to Australia and Hawaii - just now adjusting to the Pac. Northwest weather again!
-Marianne
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4/2002 Diagnosed @ age 47: 1.8cm, 1+ve node (of 27)
Her2+++, ER-/PR-; 9/9 on Bloom-Rich. scale. "Poor prognosis" written after every result on my path. report!
ACx4, Taxolx4, finished 10/2002 and then 37 rads.
2004 - Clinical trial (vaccine) @ UW, Seattle
2007 - clinical trial Tykerb (on placebo?)
So far, so good!
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04-12-2010, 06:40 PM
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Re: Alcohol and recurrance?
Ooops, I didn't mean to attach a BIG photo of myself in that last post! It was just supposed to be my avatar.
-Marianne
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4/2002 Diagnosed @ age 47: 1.8cm, 1+ve node (of 27)
Her2+++, ER-/PR-; 9/9 on Bloom-Rich. scale. "Poor prognosis" written after every result on my path. report!
ACx4, Taxolx4, finished 10/2002 and then 37 rads.
2004 - Clinical trial (vaccine) @ UW, Seattle
2007 - clinical trial Tykerb (on placebo?)
So far, so good!
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04-15-2010, 07:03 PM
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Re: Alcohol and recurrance?
Re: resveratrol... my naturopath suggests that I drink good quality organic grape juice and cranberry juice and gain equal benefit to red wine. (in answer to my question: historically I am not really a wine drinker except on special occasion, should I drink one glass of red wine a day to get resveratrol?)
I drink a beer or a margarita 3x or 4x a month... but I also know that I don't want to ever over-tax my liver or make it weaker in any way. So, I often reconsider in the moment. But usually I let myself enjoy a little, in extreme moderation.
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Brenda
NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)
Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg
Apr'07~ MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~ Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~ MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~ PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~ scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~ dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~ Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~ new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~ new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.
"I would rather be anecdotally alive than statistically dead."
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04-15-2010, 08:45 PM
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Re: Alcohol and recurrance?
The discusstion led me to the kitchen pull out the bottle of Resvinatrol Complete: For Your Heart (Advanced Resveratrol: CoQ10 & Omega 3 Formula.)
It tastes a little bit like wine. I'm thinking for wine lovers perhaps there can be a 'half & half' (not the 'Half & Half' mixing the two together like a fruit cocktail. This way one reduces the alcohol intake and benefits from a double dose of Reseratrol as well.
On the label it states: "The Secret of Red Wine for Total Heart Health." Most doctors advice their patients to quit smoking/drinking for better health, so perhaps it is a better choice.
One of the favorite statements Chinese (drinkers) make is: "Drinking hurts one's liver while sobering hurts one's feeling (same word for 'heart'). In choosing between the two, I'd rather hurt my liver instead of hurting my heart."
Definitely not a statement for the AA meetings.
Hmm... maybe I should start to take care of my heart.
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Jackie07
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2
NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa
Advocacy is a passion .. not a pastime - Joe
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