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Old 04-18-2009, 04:31 PM   #1
Janelle
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Exclamation Help for sister with multiple liver mets

Hi Friends,
I have a close friend who is 36 years old and HER2 negative so she doesn't post on this board. She was diagnosed in January of 2007 and found out in February that she has multiple liver mets.

Her bilirubin count is good so far as is her kidney function. The mets are confined to her liver.

She previously was treated with A/C + taxol and avastin when she was diagnosed. She was originally diagnosed at Stage 2 (a). She is not on Carbo and Gezmar and it is not working.

Any advice for possible alternative treatments? Has anyone heard of Laser-induced Interstitial Thermotherapy? Any other ideas?

Has anyone had chemoemobolization to the liver?

I would love your input on who you think are the best medical oncologists in the country or liver specialist for treating a young breast cancer survivor with mets to the liver. Thank you so much!!!!

Please feel free to email me at jpauer@kramerlevin.com or post here.

Janelle
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Diagnosed October 2006 at age 37 wtih grade 3 IDC and high grade DCIS
Stage 1c triple positive, no node involvement but
vascular invasion
multifocal disease
Lumpectomy November, 2006
A/C every 3 weeks (started Jan., 2007 and finished March 2007); followed weekly Taxol (finished June 2007) concurrent with Herceptin (finished March 2008);
Bilateral Mast with immediate recon in Sept 2007; finished recon Dec. 2007
Started 5 years of tamoxifen Nov. 2007; started peptide vaccine clinical trial at MD Anderson October 2008 and finished active part of trial in April 2009 (monthly injections of AE37 peptitde (HLA type specific) with GM-CSF or GM-CSF alone depending on if I was in experimental or control group); started Zometa infusions June 25, 2009- 4mg every 6 months for 3 years (taking it "off-label" to try to prevent mets)
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:06 AM   #2
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See recent posts on liver mets.
Not sure if LITT is in the US. Here is an article on a variation to improve results:
1: Eur J Surg Oncol. 2007 Jun;33(5):608-15. Epub 2007 Apr 2. Links
Improving laser-induced thermotherapy of liver metastases--effects of arterial microembolization and complete blood flow occlusion.

Ritz JP, Lehmann KS, Zurbuchen U, Wacker F, Brehm F, Isbert C, Germer CT, Buhr HJ, Holmer C.
Department of General, Vascular and Thoracic Surgery, Charité - University Medicine Berlin, Campus Benjamin Franklin, Hindenburgdamm 30, 12200 Berlin, Germany.
INTRODUCTION: A prerequisite for an oncologically curative application of laser-induced thermotherapy (LITT) of liver metastases is complete tumor destruction. This increased effectiveness was achieved experimentally by combining LITT with interrupted hepatic perfusion. The aim of this study was to evaluate whether an interventional selective arterial microembolization might be as effective as complete blood flow occlusion using an open Pringle's maneuver. PATIENTS AND METHODS: We included patients with unresectable colorectal liver metastases. LITT was performed without interrupted hepatic perfusion (control group) compared to LITT in combination with interrupted perfusion either by embolization of intraarterial degradable starch microspheres (DSM) (percutaneous access) or by complete hepatic inflow occlusion (Pringle's maneuver; open access). Online monitoring was performed using intraoperative ultrasound or MRI. Volumetric techniques were used to assess metastases and postinterventional lesions. RESULTS: Fifty-six patients with 104 metastases (control group (25), DSM (37), and Pringle (42)) were treated. The preinterventional tumor volumes were significantly smaller than the postinterventional lesion volumes (control group: 9.8 vs. 25.3 cm3; DSM: 9.5 vs. 65.4 cm3; Pringle: 12.9 vs. 76.5 cm3). The morbidity rate was 21.4% without treatment-related mortalities. After 6 months follow-up, tumor recurrence was diagnosed in 6 patients (control group (4), LITT with DSM (1), and Pringle (1)). CONCLUSIONS: Combining LITT with blood flow occlusion leads to a significant increase in lesion size. The application of DSM offers a safe and effective alternative to the open access with Pringle's maneuver. Compared to LITT-monotherapy, this modality achieves significantly larger thermal lesions with the need of fewer applications.
PMID: 17400421 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:10 AM   #3
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Thanks, Rich!
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Diagnosed October 2006 at age 37 wtih grade 3 IDC and high grade DCIS
Stage 1c triple positive, no node involvement but
vascular invasion
multifocal disease
Lumpectomy November, 2006
A/C every 3 weeks (started Jan., 2007 and finished March 2007); followed weekly Taxol (finished June 2007) concurrent with Herceptin (finished March 2008);
Bilateral Mast with immediate recon in Sept 2007; finished recon Dec. 2007
Started 5 years of tamoxifen Nov. 2007; started peptide vaccine clinical trial at MD Anderson October 2008 and finished active part of trial in April 2009 (monthly injections of AE37 peptitde (HLA type specific) with GM-CSF or GM-CSF alone depending on if I was in experimental or control group); started Zometa infusions June 25, 2009- 4mg every 6 months for 3 years (taking it "off-label" to try to prevent mets)
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:52 AM   #4
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Janelle
I have a friend who is also Her2 Neg, and was diagnosed with extensive liver mets at original diagnosis. She was in a trial at Loyola in Chicago and on Abraxane, Avastin and Carbo...she had progression on it and is now on Doxil and something else...i will find out...she is doing quite well and the mets are shrinking away. She sees Dr Albain at Loyola.
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Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:10 AM   #5
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Janelle,

I had a lung RFA and your friend might want to find out whether this might be an option. It would depend on the number of mets and the size of them. Sometimes they can be partially ablated or the small ones can be ablated, which would help reduce the tumor load for further chemotherapy. Since I had a lung RFA I don't know the details and your friend would have to look into the option.

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Old 04-19-2009, 06:24 AM   #6
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Janelle,
This must be the week for Liver Mets (next year we'll remove this week from the calendar).

I was just diagnosed with a recurrance of a single met in the liver and have an appointment on Tuesday with an interventional radiologist to learn more about RFA. At the moment, my met is a single met (at least that's all that showed on the current scan)

I will certainly ask him about whether RFA is a good option for multiple mets, can it be used again and again, what are the risks...limitations etc.? I'll post the answers next week after my meeting.

I am encouraged by RFA as I just want these wild and crazy cells blasted away quickly. Then chemo can do the clean up work.

I wish I had an immediate answer for you but will post when I know more.

So many options out there...we just need to keep pushing the envelope of new technology and be smart about how to best use it!!!

Sending comforting thoughts....Lori
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2007
Oct - Diagnosed - Stage IV
5 c.m. IDC - Left Side er/pr- Her2+++
Node + 2/14 - Single Liver Met
Double Mastectomy
Nov - Begin T+H
2008
Feb-Complete 6 cycles- T&H- NED
March - Continue - Herceptin Only
April - Rads for 6 weeks
2009
Continue Herceptin - Continue NED
April - Recurrance- 3 cm. Liver Met
May - Cryosurgery
June - November - Abraxane + Herceptin
Aug - PET/CT - CTC = 0 Back to NED
2010
January - Continue NED
July - Recurrance - 3 cm Liver Met CTC=1
August - Cryosurgery #2
August - November Navelbine
November - Back to NED - End Navelbine
2011
Feb - Recur - 4 cm Liver Met - Same Left Lobe
March Surgery it is -Couldn't get a clean margin
July - Confirmed continued liver involvement
August - Begin Herceptin + Tykerb
October - Mixed results from H+T
Add Abraxane + H + T - Nov - April
2012
January PET Scan - It's working!!
April - Back to NED
July - Recurrance
August - Begin TDM-1 Trial (Taxol + TDM-1)
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:49 AM   #7
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Thank you all so much for your input. You all are amazing!
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Diagnosed October 2006 at age 37 wtih grade 3 IDC and high grade DCIS
Stage 1c triple positive, no node involvement but
vascular invasion
multifocal disease
Lumpectomy November, 2006
A/C every 3 weeks (started Jan., 2007 and finished March 2007); followed weekly Taxol (finished June 2007) concurrent with Herceptin (finished March 2008);
Bilateral Mast with immediate recon in Sept 2007; finished recon Dec. 2007
Started 5 years of tamoxifen Nov. 2007; started peptide vaccine clinical trial at MD Anderson October 2008 and finished active part of trial in April 2009 (monthly injections of AE37 peptitde (HLA type specific) with GM-CSF or GM-CSF alone depending on if I was in experimental or control group); started Zometa infusions June 25, 2009- 4mg every 6 months for 3 years (taking it "off-label" to try to prevent mets)
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