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Old 11-02-2010, 09:47 PM   #1
Ninajane
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Can someone update me on any findings about the
effects of soy on her2 positive cancer?
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:48 AM   #2
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Re: Effects of soy on her2 positive cancer?

I think we're supposed to avoid Soy when Her2+ but cant remember where I got the information. Maybe it was on this website. Someone will be along soon who knows more about it I am sure.
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:39 PM   #3
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Re: Effects of soy on her2 positive cancer?

I've always heard if we are Her2 pos to avoid soy. However now there was a recent study saying that soy helps prevent recurrence. But for now...I'm not buying it...I will continue to avoid soy as much as possible. Hopefully Becky or someone that is well informed will chime in here?

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Old 11-03-2010, 02:51 PM   #4
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Tanya? Please feel free to chime in with your opinion or share the latest research findings with us.
The latest I read was that whole soyfoods like fresh soybeans (edamane) are okay, but processed soy is not okay.
I wonder about Asian women? They eat alot more soy than western women do, but they get much less breast cancer. I think studies have shown that Asian women who immigrate to the west and who adapt a western diet get more breast cancer than Asian women who stay in Asia and eat an Asian diet get.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:18 PM   #5
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Re: Effects of soy on her2 positive cancer?

Soy contains phytoestrogens and the jury is out whether it should or shouldn't be avoided if one has hormone positive cancer but I know there is nothing in the literature about Her2+ cancer. Saying that the Her2+ is also ER and PR negative.

I am PR neg but moderately ER+. Soy had never been a big part of my life but if I go to a Japanese restaurant, I may enjoy some edamame or a bowl of miso soup. Same with Chinese - I might have a dish that has some tofu in it. But both situations are rare (maybe once a month). I never enjoyed so don't drink soy milk. Since the opinions on soy for ER and PR positive women are all over the place, moderation but not necessarily total avoidance should be employed. Eating tofu everyday washed down with a couple of glasses of soy milk should be reconsidered but occassionally enjoying an order of Bean Curd Hunan style is absolutely okay for me.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:43 PM   #6
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Re: Effects of soy on her2 positive cancer?

Copied from another thread where I had posted this from an article I had read:
7. Steer clear of soy supplements. (For HORMONE+ breast cancer)

Soy contains isoflavones, which can act like estrogen in your body and potentially stimulate the growth of certain types of breast cancer, explains Dr. Seema A. Khan, a professor of surgery and co-leader of the breast cancer program at Northwestern University in Chicago. Supplements usually contain more concentrated doses of isoflavones, so experts recommend avoiding them. But soy foods _ edamame, soy milk, tofu _ are fine.

I am avoiding soy in supplements as much as possible. Foods...I'm careful, but it is in sooo many things.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:12 PM   #7
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Re: Effects of soy on her2 positive cancer?

I still enjoy soy foods in moderation even in light of my cancer being highly estrogen & progesterone positive.
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