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Old 01-11-2011, 03:22 PM   #1
DeenaH
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I think I just got bumped from Stage IIIC to IV

Not a good day for me today. I had a PET/CT on Friday at UCSF, and I got the report today. I had them fax it directly to me as well as sending it to my local onc, Dr. Slamon and my UCSF onc. I haven't talked to any of the doctors yet, but I understand enough of the report to know that I now have lung mets, returning cancer to superclavicular nodes, and new positive nodes next to my trachea (can't remember what those were called). I am actually more scared about the nodes than I am the lung mets. Obviously Herceptin is not working for me. My head is spinning because I really thought it would be good news, even though I knew I had lung spots. The doctors all seemed to think they would be nothing.

The way the report reads at the bottom is like this: Widespread pulmonary metaseses with superclavicular and the trachea node (whatever they are called) metaseses.

That may not be word for word, but it's the gist of it.

Any advice on where to go from here? One of the possibilities is to add Lapatinib to Herceptin. Another thing I want to look into is TDM-1 since I am now Stage IV. Anyone know what the requirements are for the trials that are still open? Any other new drugs I should research? I don't know if they will suggest more chemo at this point. So scary!!
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March 2010: Diagnosed with Stage IIIC IDC with axillary, mammary and suplaclavicular node involvement. ER/PR -, HER2+++. 7cm tumor in right breast.
April 2010: Started neoadjuvent chemo. 4 DD A/C every 2 weeks, 4 DD Taxotere every 3 weeks with Herceptin weekly.
August 2010: Finished chemo!
August 20, 2010: PET/CT showed no cancer in any nodes, and only a little uptake to the breast.
September 9, 2010: Bilateral mastectomy with immediate reconstruction with implants and Alloderm.
September 16, 2010: Pathology report showed 18/51 positive axillary nodes, 3.2cm tumor. Granual sized cancer found in the fatty tissue between levels 1 and 2.
October 19, 2010: CT showed several spots on lungs and 1 spot on liver. Liver spot is 2mm, lung spots range from 2mm to 4mm. We don't know if they are cancer or not.
12/15/10: Brain MRI clear
1/7/11: PET/CT
1/13/11: Recurrence in lungs. Start Tykerb
5/13/11: Progression in lungs
6/3/11: Lung surgery to get tumors for chemosensitivity testing.
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:38 PM   #2
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Wink Re: I think I just got bumped from Stage IIIC to IV

First take a few minutes to breathe before you try to digest more of the report.
I find it very helpful to put not so good news away for a few hours and do something else before I attempt to digest it and decide what to do about it. Whatever is there will be there in a few hours or the next day. It won't grow that fast.
If you are interested in T DM1 trials you can go to www.clinicaltrials.gov and type T DM1 in the search box. A list of T DM1 trials with descriptions will appear. You can either print out the list or make a list with I. D. numbers of the ones you think you might qualify for and bring the list to your oncologist along with the link to the list. I just posted a link to an article about the T DM1 process and some information about expanded access to the drug. You can find alot of information about T DM1 on this site by searching for it. Perhaps some of the people who have tried it will respond to your post too.
Your oncologist might also have a list of the drug combinations that work especially well for your particular situation.
In the meantime hang in there and keep putting one foot in front of the other.
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:00 PM   #3
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Re: I think I just got bumped from Stage IIIC to IV

I'm so sorry about this, Deena. I hope you remain strong, hopeful, and able to focus on finding a treatment plan that will work for you. Dr. Slamon is wonderful and should be able to help you.

Thinking of and praying for you,

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Diagnosed on 02/18/09 at 38 with a huge 12x10 cm tumor, after a 6 month delay. Told I was too young and had no risk factors. Found swollen node during breastfeeding.
March-August 09: neo-adjuvant chemo, part of a trial at Stanford (4 DD A/C, 4 Taxotere with daily Tykerb), loading dose of Herceptin
08/12/09 - bye bye boobies (bilateral mastectomy)
08/24/09 - path report shows 100 % success in breast tissue (no cancer there, yay!), 98 % success in lymphatic invasion, and even though 11/13 nodes were still positive, > 95 % of the tumor in them was killed. Hoping for the best!
September-October 09: rads with daily Xeloda
02/25/10 - Cholecystectomy
05/27/10 - Bone scan clear
06/14/10 - CT scan clear, ovarian cyst found
07/27/10 - Done with Herceptin!
02/15/11 - MVA-BN HER-2 vaccine trial
03/15/11 - First CA 15-3: 12.7 and normal, yay!
10/01/11 - Bone scan and CT scan clear, fatty liver found
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:20 PM   #4
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Re: I think I just got bumped from Stage IIIC to IV

Deena, I am so sorry you got bad news. I can remember like it was yesterday when my Oncologist told me I had lung mets. And it's been 5 years. It sounds like you have a plan of action ready and good doctors. I also suggest deep breaths, scream, cry,whatever it takes to relieve some of the stress you are feeling. I have become an expert cryer, never thought one person could have so many tears in them. I recently heard over the radio that crying is good for you immune system because it releases some chemical (can't remember the name) and relieves stress. I thought that might be why I'm doing so well, I'm a big cry baby.. You can do this, step by step. It's not a death sentence, it just means you have to fight a little harder and longer but you can do it....sherryg
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:59 AM   #5
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Re: I think I just got bumped from Stage IIIC to IV

Dear Deena, I know how you feel. Sheila is pulling out of a difficult node problem and I am sure Dr Slamon will come up with a good plan.
After the shock of having mets, I am in the middle of deciding what weapons I am going to use and it is a difficult period. Sending Hugs. Michka
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12.2010 Mets to liver,Herceptin+Tykerb
03.2011 Liver resection ER+70% PR-
04.2011 Herceptin+Navelbine+750mg Tykerb
06.2011 Liver ned, Met to sternum. Added Zometa 09.2011 Cyberknife for sternum
11.2011 Pet clear. Stop Navelbine, continuing on Hercpetin+Tykerb+Aromasin
02.2012 Mets to lungs, nodes, liver
04.2012 TDM1, Ned in 07.2012
04.2015 Stop TDM1/Kadcyla, still Ned, liver problems
04.2016 Liver mets. Back on Kadcyla
08.2016 Kadcyla stopped working. mets to liver lungs bones
09.2016 Biopsy to liver. no more HER2, still ER+
09.2016 CMF Afinitor/Aromasin/ Xgeva.Met to eye muscle Cyberknife
01.2017 Gemzar/Carboplatin/ Ibrance/Faslodex then Taxotere
02.2017 30 micro mets to brain breathing getting worse and worse
04.2017 Liquid biopsy/CTC indicates HER2 again. Start Herceptin with Halaven
06.2017 all tumors shrunk 60% . more micro mets to brain (1mm mets) no symptoms
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:31 AM   #6
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Re: I think I just got bumped from Stage IIIC to IV

Deena,

I'm sorry to hear about your cancer advancing. Mine spread in January 2007 after I had stage 2b in 2003. There are many drugs and treatments. The spots seem to be small, so any spread was caught early.

You will get a lot of support and information on this board.

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