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Old 08-07-2008, 10:46 PM   #1
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Big Bruise on leg and bump underneath

So, I ran into a table 2 weeks ago. Got a huge black and blue mark....aka bruise. Then a week later I could feel a definite, round, pea-like bump in the middle of the bruise. The bruise looks much better, but the bump is still there. Am I paranoid? I just do not remember ever being able to "feel" the bruise in my former life. I did the search thing on bruising, but did not see any references to bumps "under the bruise." Oh and yesterday, it felt all itchy. Any ideas? I am 2 years and 3 months past DX, I feel great, but get paranoid from time to time. Really do not want to call the onc office and go in and be told it is a recovering bruise. Any ideas?

Thanks, Catherine
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:11 AM   #2
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I'm guessing the bruise is either on your shin or your thigh? I have had bruises with a hard center. On me the itching means it's healing. I think the lump means you really hit it hard. I have had a nickel-sized hard center. Maybe it's a small hematoma. I would not worry but if you are worried just see if you can stop by your Onc's office next week. One quick look and your mind will be at ease!

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2002 recurrence. Bilateral mastectomy w/TFL autologous recon. Then ACx2. Skin lymphatic rash. Taxotere w/Herceptin x4. Herceptin/Xeloda. Finally stops spreading.
2003 - Back to surgery, remove skin mets, and will have surgery one week later when pathology can confirm margins.
‘03 latisimus dorsi flap to remove skin mets. CLEAN MARGINS. Continue single agent Herceptin thru 4/04. NED.
‘04 '05 & 06 tiny recurrences - scar line. surgery to cut out. NED each time.
1/2006 Rads again, to scar line. NED.

3/07 Heartbreaking news - mets! lungs.sternum. Try Tykerb/Xeloda. Tykerb/Carbo/Gemzar. Switch Oncs.
12/07 Herceptin.Tykerb. Markers go stable.
2/8/08 gamma knife 13mm stupid brain met.
3/08 Herceptin/tykerb/avastin/zometa.
3/09 brain NED. Lungs STABLE.
4/09 attack sternum (10 daysPHOTONS.5 days ELECTRONS)
9/09 MARKERS normal!
3/10 PET/CT=manubrium intensely metabolically active but stable. NEDhead.
Wash out 5/10 for tdm1 but 6/10 CT STABLE, PET improving. Markers normal. Brain NED. Resume just Herceptin plus ZOMETA
Dec 2010 Brain NED, lungs/sternum stable. markers normal.
MAR 2011 stop Herceptin/allergy! Go back on Tykerb and switch to Xgeva.
May-Aug 2011 Tykerb Herceptin Xgeva.
Sept 2011 Tykerb, Herceptin, Zometa, Avastin.
April 2012 sketchy drug trial in NYC. 6 weeks later I’m NED!
OCT 2012 PET/CT shows a bunch of freakin’ progression. Back to LA and Herceptin.avastin.zometa.
12/20/12 add in PERJETA!
March 2013 – 5 YEARS POST continue HAPZ
APRIL 2013 - 6 yrs stage 4. "FAILED" PETscan on 4/2/13
May 2013: rePetted - improvement in lungs, left adrenal stable, right 6th rib inactive, (must be PERJETA avastin) sternum and L1 fruckin'worsen. Drop zometa. ADD Xgeva. Doc says get rads consultant for L1 and possible biopsy of L1. I say, no thanks, doc. Lets see what xgeva brings to the table first. It's summer.
June-August 2013HAPX Herceptin Avastin Perjeta xgeva.
Sept - now - on chemo hold for calming tummy we hope. Markers stable for 2 months.
Nov 2013 - Herceptin-Perjeta-Avastin-Xgeva (collageneous colitis, which explains tummy probs, added Entocort)
December '13 BRAIN MRI ned in da head.
Jan 2014: CONTINUING on HAPX…
FEB 2014 PetCT clinical “impression”: 1. newbie nodule - SUV 1.5 right apical nodule, mildly hypermetabolic “suggestive” of worsening neoplastic lesion. 2. moderate worsening of the sternum – SUV 5.6 from 3.8
3. increasing sclerosis & decreasing activity of L1 met “suggests” mild healing. (SUV 9.4 v 12.1 in May ‘13)
4. scattered lung nodules, up to 5mm in size = stable, no increased activity
5. other small scattered sclerotic lesions, one in right iliac and one in thoracic vertebral body similar in appearance to L1 without PET activity and not clearly pathologic
APRIL 2014 - 6 YRS POST GAMMA ZAP, 7 YRS MBC & 18 YEARS FROM ORIGINAL DX!
October 2014: hold avastin, continue HPX
Feb 2015 Cancer you lost. NEDHEAD 7 years post gamma zap miracle, 8 years ST4, +19 yrs original diagnosis.
Continue HPX. Adding back Avastin
Nov 2015 pet/ct is mixed result. L1 SUV is worse. Continue Herceptin/avastin/xgeva. Might revisit Perjeta for L1. Meantime going for rads consult for L1
December 2015 - brain stable. Continue Herceptin, Perjeta, Avastin and xgeva.
Jan 2016: 5 days, 20 grays, Rads to L1 and continue on HAPX. I’m trying to "save" TDM1 for next line. Hope the rads work to quiet L1. Sciatic pain extraordinaire :((
Markers drop post rads.
2/24/16 HAP plus X - markers are down
SCIATIC PAIN DEAL BREAKER.
3/23/16 Laminectomy w/coflex implant L4/5. NO MORE SCIATIC PAIN!!! Healing.
APRIL 2016 - 9 YRS MBC
July 2016 - continue HAP plus Xgeva.
DEC 2016 - PETCT: mets to sternum, lungs, L1 still about the same in size and PET activity. Markers not bad. Not making changes if I don't need to. Herceptin/Perjeta/Avastin/Xgeva
APRIL 2017 10 YEARS MBC
December 2017 - Progression - gonna switch it up
FEB 2018 - Kadcyla 3 cycles ---->progression :(
MAY30th - bronchoscopy, w/foundation1 - her2 enriched
Aug 27, 2018 - start clinical trial ZW25
JAN 2019 - ZW25 seems to be keeping me stable
APRIL 2019 - ONE DOZEN YEARS LIVING METASTATIC
MAY 2019 - progression back on herceptin add xeloda
JUNE 2019 - "6 mos average survival" LMD & CNS new single brain met - one zap during 5 days true beam SBRT to cord met
10/30/19 - stable brain and cord. progression lungs and bones. washing out. applying for ds8201a w nivolumab. hope they take me.
12/27/19 - begin ds8401a w nivolumab. after 2nd cycle nodes melt away. after 3rd cycle chest scan shows Improvement, brain MRI shows improvement, resolved areas & nothing new. switch to plain ENHERTU. after 4th cycle, PETscan shows mostly resolved or improved results. Markers near normal. I'm stunned but grateful.
10/26/20 - June 2021 Tucatinib/xeloda/herceptin - stable ish.
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Old 08-08-2008, 06:13 AM   #3
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Same as Flori. I have had these too. You could just wait a week and DON'T TOUCH or press on it. Let it be. I know the impulse is to touch, touch, touch and press to see if it is going away but don't because you may be irritating it more so it will actually take longer. It is just a bad bruise though but its natural to worry about everything.
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Used Leukine instead of Neulasta
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trial results and 2005 ASCO meeting & recommendations
Oophorectomy 8/05
Started Arimidex 9/05
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:52 AM   #4
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Dear Catherine,

Oh, I know, I know, I know EXACTLY what you are experiencing 'cause I just experienced this and the little pea size lump is gone.

I didn't bump my leg but when I had my DIEP reconstruction last month I was given TONS of heparin shots in my thighs. Hence....bruising and very sore thigh muscles. After a few weeks I noticed that where one of the bruises was I now had a small pea size, very firm, lump. FREAKED ME OUT TOO. I'm thinkin' - "come on, how could it be...no way...." and of coursed touched it and touched it and touched it CONTINUALLY. Then I quit touching it and told myself to leave it alone. Just today after reading your post I touched their (cause I forgot about it till reading this) and it is gone.

Not a doubt the same will be true for you.........oh to have bumps and bruises again and to think it could ONLY be a bump or a bruise huh? Those days are gone....but oh well!!

Love to you and nice hearing from you again,

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Old 08-08-2008, 11:51 AM   #5
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Hey Catherine of Oregon,
I've had that too. I had a Hickman line for over a year
and when the time came to remove it, it didn't want to
budge. It was like a bad trip to the dentist. I ended up
quite bruised and had a little lump that was a hematoma.

Have a doctor look at it and put your mind to rest.
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:50 PM   #6
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When one gets a bruise, there are broken capillary blood vessels. Blood tends to coagulate there and you will sense a bump. For small bruises, most people will not notice the bump. I have never heard of a malignant bump caused by a bruise. Set your mind at ease. It takes a long time for the body to absorb the blood clot. Itching is a part of healing.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:17 PM   #7
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Catherine, I know exactly what you are talking about and worried about. I had this bad contusion (bruise) on the side of my shin from getting kicked really hard while playing soccer like 5 yrs ago. At the time it bruised bad and had quite a lump. Over the yrs, long after the healing of the buise I could palpate over it I feel like "thickening" beneath the area and a bit of numbness. I was also worried that it was something worse like a tumor. But after showing it to my internist, oncologist, plastic surgeon that did my diep, and chemo oncologist, and even my massage therapist... they all confirmed to me that it was just like scar tissue from the injury and my massage therapist in fact told me I could probably massage it out of there. It was a nagging worry for quite a while until I heard the same consistent message from all the above.
I know how you feel.
You just want to be sure, right?!
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Grade: intermediate
sentinal node biopsy: neg
HER2/neu amplified 4.7
ER+/PR+
TOPO II neg
Oncotype dx 20
Bilat mastectomy with DIEP flap reconstruction
oophorectomy

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6 cycles TCH (taxotere, carboplatin, herceptin)
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Old 08-10-2008, 10:14 PM   #8
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Thank you

Thank you everyone for your replies. I thought I already wrote a little thank you, but I do not know where it went. The bruise is much better and the little "lump" is still there, but it is smaller. I am relieved. You all helped put my mind at ease.

Love and Hugs, Catherine
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April 2006 at the age of 58
Stage IIB, ER- PR- HER2+++ multi focal tumors, largest 2.3cm
Chemo first: AC/Taxol over 16 weeks
Bilateral mastectomy Sep 06
33 rads after the surgery
1 year of Herceptin completed Dec 07
15 years and no recurrence as of April 2021
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