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Old 01-09-2012, 08:39 AM   #1
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12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

Hi Friends~
So 2012 brings yet another chemo-combo for me...
Metronomic Cytoxan & Methotrexate + q3wk Herceptin.

Last week's scans were not good. Not the worst I've ever had, but definitely not good. Not even stable, which was the very least I was hoping for - anything to buy more time until Pertuzumab is approved.
The PET showed 50% increase in size & activity in a spot in my R lung, middle lobe and a R supraclav node. The 2 lesions in my colon are pretty fired up, though fortunately no worsening of symptoms, Thank God. Then a scattering of a couple of nodes around my belly & GI.
I'm so sad. Just so disheartened that Halaven+Herceptin worked pretty well for the first, short 9 weeks, then since those 1st scans on October 18, things have gone awry, and just stopped working. So scary.
Fortunately I feel well and strong. And my liver looks good - which has been a troubling site in the past, even after a R Hepatectomy in 12/05 & chemo-embo w/Adriamycin in 6/10. My bone marrow/cbc's are holding steady, not neutropenic and Hgb holding ~10, which is anemic, but not so bad, as I've been as low as 6.4 in the past. And then there's the anomally of my hair growing back. As much as I hate being bald, especially for the 3rd time, I'll take it, as long as the drugs are working.
I just feel like this disease is starting to snowball, building momentum while I'm running out of options and running out of time, running towards the unfortunate inevitable.
For the past 3 years, each chemo-combo has been working for less and less time, or not at all, and the FDA just can't approve drugs fast enough to fill up my medicine cabinet. The only 2 BC drugs that I haven't been exposed to are Cytoxan &Taxotere- though I have been on Taxol - which got me to NED, once upon a time long ago - and Abraxane, which had no effect for me.
It was a pretty bleak appointment when I met with my docs & they gave me the results, but they did some searching around, offering a Phase I study that meant I would have to d/c Herceptin, which is never a good option for me. But after a little rooting around, they brought me the info about the metronomic Cytoxan/Methotrexate + q3wk Herceptin. It really is a good option - especially since I won't have to go off of Herceptin and since my body's never seen Cytoxan. And with this metronomic therapy, the Cytoxan & Methotrexate are in pill form, so I can take those at home. And from what I've read, it's not such a crazy expensive combo b/c both drugs have been around for a long time.
Now we just need for it to work. And quickly.
At the very least, I hope for this neuropathy in my fingers/toes/feet to start to resolve so that I can feel if this supraclav node is responding to the new combo.
I start this week. I'm ready.
Then there's the matter of the repeat Brain MRI next week to take a look at a questionable spot in my L lobe, only 2mm, but so hoping it's just an artifact or some kind of treatment related change as a result of the Novalis in 6/10 for 4mm spot in the same area. I can't fathom what I'll do if they tell me it is "something". I don't know how much more I can take right now.
In the midst of this, I still haven't told my Mom because I don't want to make her worry or be scared for me. I just want her to focus on my Dad. I didn't realize how much I would need for her to just know, even if there's nothing she can do.

Keeping the Faith~

Jessica
Dx-5/17/02 - 33 yo; Stage IV
L IDC w/single liver met
1) Herceptin + Navelbine x 8 weeks - No response; progress to innumerable,immeasureable liver mets
2) ISIS 2504 + Herceptin - 6 mos, partial response
3) Taxol + Herceptin x 13 weeks to NED!
NED for 1 year
9/04 - Single liver lesion recurrence
Taxol + Herceptin - on/off to beat back lesion
12/05 - R Hepatectomy; Liver NED until 2009
3/06- Local recurrence - Left breast, IDC & DCIS, but holding treatment while continue to heal from Hepatectomy.
12/06 - L mastectomy + reconstruction through 8/07
10/07 - Recurrence - supraclav nodes
4) Gemzar + Herceptin - on/off controlling nodes thru
9/08 - 7wks Rads to supraclav nodes
10/08 - Acute Renal Failure - nodes in belly stricturing kidneys. placed permanent ureteral stents
Back on Gemzar + Herceptin, but no longer responding.
5) 05/09 - Tykerb + Xeloda - partial response x 5 mos
6) 10/09 - Xeloda + Herceptin - no response, disease progresses
7) 2/10- Ixempra + Herceptin - partial response x 12 wks.
Discovered single brain lesion x 4mm & liver lesions growing while screening for TDM1 + PI3Kinase study.
6/10 - Novalis to treat brain met - SUCCESSFUL!
8) 6/10 - Chemo-embo w/Adriamyacin to de-bulk liver lesion.
9) 8/10 - Screened & Started TDM1 EAP
Immediate response, disease in belly responds dramatically.
2/11- questionable progression of lung nodules
Discontinue TDM1
10) 3/11 - PI3Kinase + Herceptin - intial good response in 1st 6 weeks but LFT's elevated.
11) 7/11-Discontinue PI3Kinase + Herceptin study;
Disease progression - 2 small lesions in colon – docs have never seen this before in BC
11) 8/11 –Start new combo Halaven+Herceptin
10/14/11 -Completed 3 cycles (9 wks)Halaven+Herceptin...
10/18/11 - Scanxiety time -1st scans since starting this regimen
Good interval response, continue on H+H!
10/25/11 – new 2mm questionable spot in brain? Due to Novalis or new disease?Re-scan in 8 weeks.
1/3/12- Disease progression; 50%increase size & SUV-R lung, middle lobe 6cm lesion. R supraclav node multiple, miscellaneous nodes in belly. Colon lesions fired up.
12)Herceptin+ metronomic Cytoxan + Methotrexate.
…on a hope & a prayer. Only chemo I haven’t been on is Taxotere.
Hurry up Pertuzumab & TDM1!
Follow Up Brain Scan on 1/18/12…pleasepleaseplease be okay. I can’t take much more.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:55 AM   #2
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Re: 12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

Jessica

I too find out my results this week, and I am thinking I will be taken off Gemzar. On the bright side, I was on the Metronomic chemo before Halaven, and I had a good response, although not long enough. I did not lose my hair, and I loved the freedom it gave me, only having to go in for Herceptin every 3 weeks.
I also have not had Taxotere, and that may be the next drug...I had a great response from Taxol, and have never had Abraxane (insurance denied due to price).

Although I am not anxious to lose my hair again, it seems like a small sacrifice when I look at the big picture...I truly think it gets easier each time. I am hoping my counts will hold...they have been an issue on Gemzar.

Hoping the Pertuzamab will getr released soon...I am thinking it would be a great drug for both of us, with Herceptin...I was sad that TDM-1 was not my gold bullet...I see it was a short interval for you too, but it seems to work wonders on liver involvement.

Hoping this new combo will carry you to stable until the next magic potion is available....like you, they dont make drugs fast enough for me....I seem to also be getting a shorter time out of them, and then the other tolls they take on the body!

Sad I did not go to San Antonio this year, I would have loved to have met you...we have alot in common...take care, KEEP THE FAITH, and prayers for you and success of the new combo are coming your way.
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Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:03 AM   #3
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Re: 12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

Ah! Told you Sheila would chime in! Having 2 threads - you've always been an over achiever. Although you may not feel that way right now, remember you are one strong lady.
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June 2002 extensive hi grade DCIS (pre-cancer-stage 0, clean sentinal node) Mastectomy/implant - no chemo, rads. "cured?"
9/2004 Diag: Stage IV extensive liver mets (!) ER/PR- Her2+++
10/04-3/05 Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin/Herceptin , complete response!
04/05 - 4/07 Herception every 3 wks, Continue NED
04/07 - recurrence to liver - 2 spots, starting tykerb/avastin trial
06/07 8/07 10/07 Scans show stable, continue on Tykerb/Avastin
01/08 Progression in liver
02/08 Begin (TDM1) trial
08/08 NED! It's Working! Continue on TDM1
02/09 Continue NED
02/10 Continue NED. 5/10 9/10 Scans NED 10/10 Scans NED
12/10 Scans not clear....4/11 Scans suggest progression 6/11 progression confirmed in liver
07/11 - 11/11 Herceptin/Xeloda -not working:(
12/11 Begin MM302 Phase I trial - bust:(
03/12 3rd times the charm? AKT trial

5/12 Scan shows reduction! 7/12 More reduction!!!!
8/12 Whoops...progression...trying for Perjeta/Herceptin (plus some more nasty chemo!)
9/12 Start Perjeta/Herceptin, chemo on hold due to infection/wound in leg, added on cycle 2 &3
11/12 Poops! progression in liver, Stop Perjeta/Taxo/Herc
11/12 Navelbine/Herce[ptin - try for a 3 cycles, no go.
2/13 Gemzar/Carbo/Herceptin - no go.
3/13 TACE procedure
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:35 AM   #4
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I am hoping your new "menu" will be the right recipe for you. Take good care of yourself Blessings !!
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:11 PM   #5
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Re: 12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

Jessica I really hope you get your stable out of this cocktail. Sending positive vibes your way.
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Left mastectomy Dec '10, 6cm tumour 1 of 2 lymph (micro mets)
Clear margins but lymphovasculer invasion
Stage 3a Grade 3
Fec 100 x 3 Jan '11 Taxotere X 3 and Herceptin X 1yr
Staging scans - CT brain & body and bone - May '11 - NED!!
Start Femara - in chemo induced menapause
25 Rads June '11
Dec '11 Menstruation resumed - zoladex inj monthly and Tamoxifen
Feb '12 Back on Femera and Zoladex
March '12 CT brain & body & bone scan all clear
Zometa x2/yearly
April '12 - Oopherectomy

Praying the Herceptin is as good as its hype!!
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:25 PM   #6
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Re: 12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

I'm hoping you get to NED again with this new drug regimen. At least you can do chemo - I'm still off it due to the c-diff. MY new one was going to be xyloda - who knows when I'll be well enough to take it?

Let's hope this new cocktail does the trick. I'll be counting on that for you - we liver resection girls have to stick together!
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Multifocal/multicentric IDC, largest 3.4 cm, associated ADH, LCIS, DCIS
HER2+ ER+/PR- Grade 3, Node Negative

10/20/2009: Right mastectomy, reconstruction with TE
12/02/2009: Six rounds TCH, switched to Taxol halfway through due to neuropathy
03/31/2010: Finished chemo
05/01/2010: Began tamoxifen, the worst drug ever
11/18/2010: Reconstruction completed
12/02/2010: Finished herceptin
05/21/2011: Liver Mets. Quit Tamoxifen
06/22/2011: Navelbine/Zometa/Herceptin
10/03/2011: Liver Resection, left lobe. Microwave ablation, right lobe - going for cure!
11/26/2011: C-Diff Superbug Infection, "worst case doctor had seen in 20 years"
03/28/2012: Progression in ablated section of the liver - no more cure. Started Abraxane, continue herceptin/zometa
10/10/2012: Progression continues, started Halaven, along with herceptin and zometa.
01/15/2013: Progression continues, started Gemzar and Perjeta, an unusual combo, continuing with herceptin and zometa
03/13/2013: Quit Gemzar, body just won't handle it. Staying on herceptin, zometa and perjeta.
04/03/2013: CT shows 50% regression in tumor, so am starting back on Gemzar with dose reduction, staying with perjeta/herceptin/zometa. Can't argue with success!
05/09/2013: Discussing SBRT with Radiology due to inability of bone marrow to recover from chemo.
06/07/2013: Fiducial placement for SBRT
07/03/2013: Chemo discontinued, on Perjeta, Herceptin and Zometa alone
07/25/2013: SBRT (gamma knife) begins
08/01/2013: SBRT completed
08/15/2013: STABLE! continuing with Perjeta, Herceptin, Zometa
06/18/2014: ***** NED!!!!***** continuing with Perjeta, Herceptin, Zometa
01/29/2014: Still NED. continuing with Perjeta, Herceptin. Zometa lowered to every 3 months instead of monthly.
11/08/2015: Progression throughout abdomen and lungs. Started TDM-1, aka Kadcyla. Other meds discontinued. Remission was nice while it lasted.

5/27/18: Stable. Kadcyla put me right back in the barn. I have two teeny spots on my lungs that are metabolically inactive, and liver is clean.

I’m beating this MFer. I was 51 when this started and had two kids, 22 and 12. Now I’m 60. My oldest got married and trying to start s family. My youngesg graduates from Caltech this June. My stepdaughter gave me grandkids. Life is fantastic.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:25 PM   #7
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Re: 12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

Sorry to hear that, Jessica. You are so strong, I'm sure you'll pull through this again. We're all here cheering for you.

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March-August 09: neo-adjuvant chemo, part of a trial at Stanford (4 DD A/C, 4 Taxotere with daily Tykerb), loading dose of Herceptin
08/12/09 - bye bye boobies (bilateral mastectomy)
08/24/09 - path report shows 100 % success in breast tissue (no cancer there, yay!), 98 % success in lymphatic invasion, and even though 11/13 nodes were still positive, > 95 % of the tumor in them was killed. Hoping for the best!
September-October 09: rads with daily Xeloda
02/25/10 - Cholecystectomy
05/27/10 - Bone scan clear
06/14/10 - CT scan clear, ovarian cyst found
07/27/10 - Done with Herceptin!
02/15/11 - MVA-BN HER-2 vaccine trial
03/15/11 - First CA 15-3: 12.7 and normal, yay!
10/01/11 - Bone scan and CT scan clear, fatty liver found
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:12 PM   #8
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Re: 12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

Jessica, really hope this new treatment works wonders for you. Looking thru your signature, its amazing what you've been thru and you are so positive all the time. You truly deserve to get to NED! Very best wishes.
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dx 2010 mets lymph nodes, skin, lung. start taxotere/herceptin.
Stopped taxtere/herceptin, now on tyverb/xeloda.
Lung mets shrinking.
Back on Herceptin with T/X. Partial response.
Skin mets progressing. Radiation scheduled mid february 2011.
Spot found on hip - radiation to hip beginning mid February 2011.
Now trying Gemzar/Tyverb/Herceptin and Zometa.
CT scan Feb 2011 - lung clear!
Brain mets (specks) - radiation mid Feb.
Brain Scan June'11 - Clear
CT Scan June'11 - Good - skin met active - watch and wait.
Surgery to remove skin met. Surgery to back 2012, four titanium rods inserted. Skin mets reappear. On Navelbine, not working. 4 week washout, start Myocet for skin and lung mets August 2012. Brain scan clear despte intermittent blurry vision (something hiding? Am suspicious but hopeful. )On we go, glad to be here.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:34 PM   #9
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Re: 12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

Jessica, sending you good vibes for your new combo
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Stage 1V 3.6cm breast lump, spot on lungs, nodes chest + neck
HER2+ ER/PR-
Abraxane weekly - 16 weeks
Herceptin every third week
September 26 2011 N.E.D!
Herceptin ongoing
8th Dec 2011 Brain MRI - clear
20th Dec 2011 bone/cat scan clear still NED
April 2012 scans show axillary node lump - ? what to do...
June 2012 Axillary node dissection 1/11 nodes affected, a wide local excision shows DCIS. Now what to do again? Watch and scan 3 monthly
April 2013, two spots in nodes to chest wall, start TDM1 (Kadcycla) as part of clinical trial
July 2013 stable
Oct 2013 progression off TDM-1 (Kadcycla)
Nov 2013 radiation to lymph nodes in sternum
Dec 2013. Mastectomy right side, pathology shows tumour was HER-2 negative, no wonder TDM-1 (Kadcycla) didn’t work!
April 2014 NED. On Herceptin only
August 2014 NED. On Herceptin only
March 2015. NED. On Herceptin only
September 2015 NED on Herceptin only
March 2016. Pulmonary embolism, Clexane injections daily forever. Still NED On Herceptin only
Nov 2016. Bone Mets in ribs - Radiation. Don’t know if bone Mets are er-/pr-/HER2+ or triple negative.
Can’t give self injections on to tablets (Xarelto) for blood clots.
2017 NED - On Herceptin only
2018 NED - On Herceptin only
2019 NED - On Herceptin only
2020 NED - On Herceptin only
2021 NED - On Herceptin only
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:21 PM   #10
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Re: 12th chemo-combo in ~10 yrs

Jessica,

Hope this combo will work and Pertuzumab is ready soon. Any chance of talking with Genentech to see if somehow available?

Just know we are with you.
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12 Taxol/Herceptin
33Rads
Strange infect mast site one year aft surg, hosp 1 wk
Herceptin for total of 18 months
Lupron Monthly 4 yrs
Neurontin for aches, pains and hot flashes(It works!)
Ovaries removed 11/09 stop Lupron and Neurontin
Arimidex 6 yrs (tried Femara, no SE improvement)
Tried Exemestane-hips got so bad could hardly walk
Back to Arimidex for year seven
Zometa 2X Annual for 7years, Lasix
Stop Arimidex 5/13
Stop Zometa 7/13-Bi-lateral Stress Fractures in Femurs from Zometa
5/14 Start Tamoxifen
3/15 Stem cell transplant to stimulate femur bone growth/healing
5/15 Complete fracture of right femur/Titanium rods both femurs
9/16 Start Evista stopTamoxifen
3/17 Stop Evista--unwelcome side effects!
NED and no meds.......
14YEARS NED!
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