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Old 07-05-2006, 09:42 AM   #1
anne
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Does brain mets affect tumor markers?

Hello,
I just wanted to see the experience on the board regarding changes in tumor markers with brain mets. Do they correlate or are they completly silent. In addition is a PET scan of the brain more accurate.

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Old 07-05-2006, 11:56 AM   #2
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Anne,

In my experience, No. Altho' my CA27-29 was in the high 300's when dx'd with other mets, then down to normal after scans showed NED, my recurrances of brain mets have always been while CA27-29 is around 17. And still NED in body.

From all I have researched in the past four yrs, MRi with contrast (even the triple contrast/smaller slice pics) is the definitive set of scans for brain mets.

The question does remain whether the MRispec/something (or even pet) could determine between 'active' cancer or necrosis, tho'.

But for dx or good checkups, it is the MRi with contrast by far.

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Old 07-05-2006, 05:23 PM   #3
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Wink Different experience

My CEA was being checked each 3 weeks for a long time and it started to creep up although my CA27-29 remained within 2 or 3 points.
My change in CEA was actualy signalling the development of brain mets. As soon as I had the Gamma Knife threatment the CEA was back down to .7 or .8, where it remains now.
Just prior to the Gamma Knife it was something like 14 as I had a large 3cm met.

I believe that Christine here had the same experience that her CEA was in line with her brain mets. I know another women at my clinic with the same story - it seems to be the CEA that changes only.

P.S. Gosh, PattyZ, I am so glad you are feeling better and up to posting here.
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Old 07-05-2006, 06:11 PM   #4
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Hi Anne,
My CEA was also up when I had brain mets, but I also had other mets so I can't be sure.
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Old 07-06-2006, 10:59 AM   #5
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my cea rose only slightly and was within the normal range when my brain mets were found in early 2003. due to slight but frequent headaches, I got an mri. the mets were tiny and gamma knifed. a year later when more brain mets were found with follow up mri's, my cea was high due to bone mets. I believe I can't depend on my cea for brain mets, but it's been very accruate for other spots. interesting question.
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Old 07-08-2006, 04:20 AM   #6
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My markers went up with brain met in the skull but markers work great for me! HavahJ
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