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Old 08-13-2006, 09:54 PM   #21
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More re. ammonia reduction and breast cancer.
Sherry, I did a search re ammonia reduction and breast cancer and thought some of the following might also be of possible interest:
Here is the web address--
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22am...=&start=0&sa=N
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:16 AM   #22
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Sherry;

In looking around I found an interesting story about a woman colon cancer patient with mets to the liver. She pushed very hard for surgery and had 65 to 70% of her liver removed in an 11 hour operation....wow. Following the operation she was put on Xeloda. Later she went back for follow up and to remove additional tumors but had too much scar tissue for surgery. She is now on Avastin. (I keep hearing about Avastin.....is this something you've looked at?). I found the following comments by the onc interesting....

Patients with liver metastases should be their own advocates, says leading colon cancer oncologist and researcher Dr. Richard Goldberg, of the University of North Carolina Lineberger Comprehensive Cancer Center. According to Dr. Goldberg, liver resection for patients with advanced colorectal cancer is underused. Dr. Goldberg believes that patients should ask about the possibility of resection or radiofrequency ablation. If necessary, he recommends seeking a second or third opinion from larger cancer centers where surgery of this sort is routinely performed. If patients initially encounter physicians who aren’t receptive to the idea of resection, Dr. Goldberg advises that they consult a gastrointestinal (GI) oncology specialist or a surgeon who specializes in liver surgery in either an academic center or comprehensive cancer center.

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4 AC, 4 Taxol, Radiation, Arimidex, Actonel
Herceptin for 9 months until Muga dropped and heart enlarged
Restarting herceptin weekly after 4 months off
Stopped herceptin after four weekly treatments....score dropped to 41
Finished 6 years Arimidex
May 2015 diagnosed with ovarian cancer
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Genetic testing show BRCA1 VUS
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29 March 2018 Lung biopsy following chest CT showing tumours in pleura of left lung, waiting for results to the question bc or ovarian
April 20, 2018 BC mets confirmed, ER/PR+ now Her2-
Questions about the possibility of ovarian spread and mets to bones so will be tested and monitored for these.
To begin new drug Palbociclib (Ibrance) along with Letrozole May, 2018.
Genetic testing of ovarian tumour and this new lung met will take months.
To see geneticist to be retested for BRCA this week....still BRCA VUS
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:10 AM   #23
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Hi Sherry,

I couldn't help but try to provide you with some courage. I am so sorry about your news. I also knew a lady that had chemo implanted right in her liver so she wouldn't have too much side effects. This was done at John's Hopkins cancer center. Please talk to someone over there. She had met. colo-rectal cancer. Don't give up. My thoughts and prayers are with you. PS: I heard Milk thistle is supposed to be cleansing for the liver.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:32 AM   #24
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Sherry - I just want you to know you are in my thoughts and prayers. The other ladies are giving great practical suggestions. A nurse told my dad that God's the one who decides when we go, so forget the statistics. He was around for two years after the docs told him he could go any minute. So the nurse was right. Love and hugs to you, mountain lady. MJO
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:43 AM   #25
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The article talks about colon cancer patients. Although it would seem to hold true for breast cancer patients, it is not routinely offered. My oncologist told me that is because colon cancer tends to metastasize to the liver first and be the only place of metastases. Even though that CAN happen with breast cancer, they say that isn't the 'norm' and that once it spreads it can be in more than one place. However, the articles that I have read on this are contradictory. From what I gather it is not being offered to more women is because it happens too often and there aren't enough facilities/surgeons to offer it to the numbers of breast cancer patients for whom this does hold true. And, until adopted standard protocol is changed, dr's aren't held liable for not doing anything that isn't standard. I think that it is quite unfair and, in fact, seemingly discriminatory.
Latest research shows that if one has mets only to the liver and there are one or two areas involved that surgery can be done and it can still be 'curative.' This research was available at least 4 years ago, but protocol has not changed to be in sync with those research findings.
I tried to see a surgeon based on the above. My referral was rejected on basis that I could 'hemhorrage to death.' I have a lesion in my liver that has never been biopsied. Report states that it could be a possible hemangioma. However, appropriate testing for it has never been done. A tagged red blood cell study was done. Report came back stating that there was not enough resolution to evaluated lesions less than 2 cm.
No further testing was done. However, my onc. rote that an MRI was done. No MRI was ever done. Whatever was there increased and then became stable. A treated liver lesion can subsequently resemble a hemangioma.
Either way, I tried to see a surgeon and my request was denied. Because the protocol for breast cancer hasn't changed, they--dr's/treatment facilities can get away with this. So wrong...
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:54 AM   #26
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I notice on a different topic Lani commented on going to Stanford for a second opinion. She said they are always faced with the most difficult cases that other people don't know what to do with. Perhaps they could offer some help here?

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Diagnosed Oct. 2004 3 cm ductal, lumpectomy Nov. 2004
Diagnosed Jan. 2005 tumor in supraclavicular node
Stage 3c, Grade 3, ER/PR+, Her2++
4 AC, 4 Taxol, Radiation, Arimidex, Actonel
Herceptin for 9 months until Muga dropped and heart enlarged
Restarting herceptin weekly after 4 months off
Stopped herceptin after four weekly treatments....score dropped to 41
Finished 6 years Arimidex
May 2015 diagnosed with ovarian cancer
Stage 1C
started 6 treatments of carboplatin/taxol
Genetic testing show BRCA1 VUS
Nice! My hair came back really curly. Hope it lasts lol. Well it didn't but I liked it so I'm now a perm lady
29 March 2018 Lung biopsy following chest CT showing tumours in pleura of left lung, waiting for results to the question bc or ovarian
April 20, 2018 BC mets confirmed, ER/PR+ now Her2-
Questions about the possibility of ovarian spread and mets to bones so will be tested and monitored for these.
To begin new drug Palbociclib (Ibrance) along with Letrozole May, 2018.
Genetic testing of ovarian tumour and this new lung met will take months.
To see geneticist to be retested for BRCA this week....still BRCA VUS
CA125 has declined from 359 to 12 as of Aug.23/18


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Old 08-14-2006, 10:44 AM   #27
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Question Where's Sherry?

I haven't seen a post by Sherry in a few days. Sherry, please check in with us and let us know what's going on. We're worried about you.
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Old 08-14-2006, 12:13 PM   #28
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Sherry, I am praying for you. Please remember there are many people who were told they only had weeks or months to live and they kept on living. I recently read a book by Dottie Olstein, she is the mother of Joel Olstein, the young preacher who is pretty popular. Dottie was told that she only had weeks to live, because her liver was eaten up with Cancer, they told her it was too late for chemo. She went home, prayed, believed she was healed and here she is 21 years later..no signs of Cancer. She said she had many nights of pain and agony but she just kept believing in her heart for a miracle Miracles do happen, so why not to you. You are in my thoughts and prayers..sherryg683
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Old 08-14-2006, 12:53 PM   #29
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Sherry
You are getting alot of good advice from people who care very much about you, and have a never ending bond...all this is probably overwhelming, but many good places to start...if you are not ready to give up, DON'T....God has the final say when enough is enough...you are in my prayers...sending healing thoughts and hugs your way as you make this decision.
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Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
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5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
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7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:21 PM   #30
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I'am sorry you are going through this

Hi Sherry,

I saw your post today and join this board. I am really sorry to hear what the doctor has told you. Just wanted to share my story with you. My twin brother has end stage liver dz. I was in the process of donating one lobe of my liver to him when I was diagnosed with bc stage III her2 postive. He was to have the surgury 10 days after I got my mammo. That was 4 mos ago. They have had him on the lactose for 5 months it has made a world of difference in decreasing his ammonia levels. He is now on the regular donear list they they think this will happen in Feb 2007. I guess what I'm trying to say is try the lactose and really limit your protein intake. You are in my prayers.
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:39 PM   #31
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Sherry,

Lot's of prayers and hug's going out for you. You are a strong fighter and as you said once before "I will not go quietly into the night".

I love all the suggestions by the others. Just know you are loved by all of us here.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:16 PM   #32
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More hugs and prayers, BB
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:47 AM   #33
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Sherry...

I hope you get the help you need and my prayers will continue for you. Take care and God bless.

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Dx 2/1/05, Stage 1, 0 nodes, Grade 3, ER/PR-, HER2+ (3.16 Fish)
2/7/05, Partial Mastectomy
5/18/05 Finished 6 rounds of dose dense TEC (Taxotere, Epirubicin and Cytoxan)
8/1/05 Finished 33 rads
8/18/05 Started Herceptin, every 3 weeks for a year (last one 8/10/06)

2/1/13...8 year Cancerversary and I am "perfect" (at least where cancer is concerned;)


" And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."- Abraham Lincoln
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