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Old 06-28-2009, 01:34 PM   #301
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Hi Andi
I was interested about the T cell issue especially as a lot of research is currently focusing on modifying patients own T cells then reintroducing them to fight bc.
It also seems reasonable to assume that as we age our immune system may not be as robust as before,so extra stress may tip it over the edge.
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:43 PM   #302
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Thanks Andi and Ellie for your support it is appreciated.

Andi said "But many of us suffer from muscle pain, arthritis and such."

(They know oestrogen allows people to make more DHA and testosterone reduces the ability to make DHA from looking at the effect of hormones on transsexuals.)

BASIC FACT. Omega 3 and Omega 6 must ultimately be got from food. The body can make all other fats from carbohydrates including Omega 9.

Long chain Omega 3 EPA and DHA are needed to balance the Omega 6s, as is very evident if you have read the previous posts. This is fundamental to the way the body functions and not just BC.

These are some mix and match excerpts from the revised version of my book which I am working on at the moment. I will post the refs separately.

"Women have a very special need for Omega 3 DHA, and can make much more of it from the plant based Omega 3 ALA than men.

Higher DHA in women gives them a different brain structure. DHA is a big factor in the control of their hormone levels, makes their skin and hair softer, affects their metabolism, improves their sensory perception, and makes women think and behave differently.

This all happens because oestrogen allows women to convert 10-20 times more of the plant fat Omega 3 ALA to DHA than men. Oestrogen increases production of DHA. Women make 10 - 20 times as much DHA as men. DHA defines women behaviourally, structurally, and hormonally. Women have a very fundamental relationship with the Omega 3s, and particularly EPA and DHA.

A consequence of oestrogen blockers or ovarian removal, will likely be that the increased levels of conversion of Omega 3 ALA to DHA, due to higher oestrogen in women, will not occur. IF conversion is already poor, this may further increase DHA deficiency in women on oestrogen blocking strategies. Also there is evidence that low DHA /Omega 3s and high Omega 6 increases the risk breast cancer and other cancers, so a low level of DHA may increase the risk of breast cancer recurrence"

This is why it is so important for those who have had BC and been on oestrogen blockers to supplement with long chain Omega 3s. Women need more long chain Omega 3 to make their bodies work. More DHA is part of being female. If you can no longer make so much you must get it in your diet.


On arthritis

"Omega 6 AA reduces the pain threshold, and so increase the sensitivity to pain. PGE2 is a direct product of Omega 6 AA. In knee operations the postoperative level of PGE2 in fluid from knees related directly to the amount of pain experienced; the higher the PGE2 the higher the pain.

If the Omega 6 intake is reduced below the 4% of calories threshold, and or balanced with Omega 3s PGE2 production and so pain will be reduced.
Omega 3 DHA and EPA reduce pain by blocking the inflammatory effects of the PGE2 pathway by competing for the COX2 enzyme used to make PGE2.
DHA is a more effective COX2 blocker than a number of NSAIDS. (Drugs used to block the inflammatory pathways.) DHA and EPA do not come with a long list of potential side effects. Inflammatory cytokines such as TNF alpha, and IL1, are also downgraded by fish oil. As discussed elsewhere the products of the Omega 3s DHA and EPA are also anti-inflammtory.

NSAIDS alleviate pain and symptoms but do not stop progression.In contrast to DHA NSAIDS increase TNF-alpha synthesis. TNF- alpha and IL1 are reported as being involved in cartilage degradation. Omega 3 DHA reduces cartilage degradation. DHA and EPA also reduce bone loss. Fish oil may alleviate symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis.

A paper by Philip Calder in 2009 looking at trials on rheumatoid arthritis, with doses of long chain Omega 3s between 1.6 and 7.1, with an average of 3.5 grams a day, said “Almost all these trials have shown some benefit of fish oil… Such benefits include reduced duration of morning stiffness, reduced number of tender or swollen joints, reduced joint pain, reduced time to fatigue, increased grip strength and decreased use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs”"

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Old 06-29-2009, 03:07 PM   #303
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Ellie said

"I wonder if there is any evidence that the chemicals released under stress reduce the amount of omega 3 in the body??"



In essence Omega 6 increases stress and aggression and Omega 3 reduces it. There are a significant number of trials on animals, students, prison inmates that support this.

How?

There are a number of mechanisms. They include that Omega 6 ultimately controls the hormones and steroids including testosterone. Omega 6 also reduces serotonin and dopamine the happy hormones. Omega 6 increase noradrenaline the stress hormone.

Stress and Omega 6 are connected with higher levels of oxidation. Oxidation ultimately damages cells and DNA which may be a factor increasing the risk cancer is triggered.

IF you have not done so please check out the videos on the first post.

Please also make sure you get adequate minerals and fat soluble vitamins.


In Australia in 2005 a large proportion of the population were mild to moderate iodine deficient.

In the USA the number who are vitamin D deficient is rising.

Minerals are essential to the production of the internal antioxidants. Vitamin D is a more powerful antioxidant than vitamin E.

There is the beginning of a recognition thanks to some far sighted individuals that iodine may an important antioxidant as well as its roles in the thyroid.

Please discuss diet with you medical advisor.
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Old 07-09-2009, 04:43 PM   #304
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Fatty fish and fish omega-3 fatty acid intakes decrease the breast cancer risk: a case-control study.
Kim J, Lim SY, Shin A, Sung MK, Ro J, Kang HS, Lee KS, Kim SW, Lee ES.

ABSTRACT: BACKGROUND: Although it is believed that fish omega-3 fatty acids may decrease breast cancer risk, epidemiological evidence has been inconclusive. This study examined the association between fish and fish omega-3 fatty acids intake with the risk of breast cancer in a case-control study of Korean women. METHODS: We recruited 358 incident breast cancer patients and 360 controls with no history of malignant neoplasm from the National Cancer Center Hospital between July 2007 and April 2008. The study participants were given a 103-item food intake frequency questionnaire to determine their dietary consumption of fish (fatty and lean fish) and omega-3 fatty acids derived from fish (eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA), and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA)). RESULTS: Using a multivariate logistic regression model, high intake of fatty fish was associated with a reduced risk for breast cancer in both pre- and postmenopausal women (OR [95% CI] for highest vs. lowest intake quartiles, p for trend: 0.19 [0.08 to 0.45], p < 0.001 for premenopausal women, 0.27 [0.11 to 0.66], p = 0.005 for postmenopausal women). Similarly, reductions in breast cancer risk were observed among postmenopausal subjects who consumed more than 0.101 g of EPA (OR [95% CI]: 0.38 [0.15 to 0.96]) and 0.213 g of DHA (OR [95% CI]: 0.32 [0.13 to 0.82]) from fish per day compared to the reference group who consumed less than 0.014 g of EPA and 0.037 g of DHA per day. Among premenopausal women, there was a significant reduction in breast cancer risk for the highest intake quartiles of omega-3 fatty acids (ORs [95% CI]: 0.46 [0.22 to 0.96]), compared to the reference group who consumed the lowest quartile of intake. CONCLUSIONS: These results suggest that high consumption of fatty fish is associated with a reduced risk for breast cancer, and that the intake of omega-3 fatty acids from fish is inversely associated with postmenopausal breast cancer risk.
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Old 07-09-2009, 04:53 PM   #305
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angiogenesis = new blood vessel growth

The wikipedia page is helpful (MMP = matrix metalloproteinases) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiogenesis

PGE2 is a direct product of Omega 6.


The effect of omega-3 FAs on tumour angiogenesis and their therapeutic potential.
Spencer L, Mann C, Metcalfe M, Webb M, Pollard C, Spencer D, Berry D, Steward W, Dennison A.

Department of HPB and Pancreatic Surgery, Leicester General Hospital, Gwendolen Road, Leicester LE5 4PW, United Kingdom.

Omega-3 fatty acid (omega-3 FA) consumption has long been associated with a lower incidence of colon, breast and prostate cancers in many human populations. Human trials have demonstrated omega-3 FA to have profound anti-inflammatory effects in those with cancer. In vitro and small animal studies have yielded a strong body of evidence establishing omega-3 FA as having anti-inflammatory, anti-apoptotic, anti-proliferative and anti-angiogenic effects. This review explores the evidence and the mechanisms by which omega-3 FA may act as angiogenesis inhibitors and identifies opportunities for original research trialling omega-3 FAs as anti-cancer agents in humans. The conclusions drawn from this review suggest that omega-3 FAs in particular eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) found principally in oily fish have potent anti-angiogenic effects inhibiting production of many important angiogenic mediators namely; Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor (VEGF), Platelet-Derived Growth Factor (PDGF), Platelet-Derived Endothelial Cell Growth Factor (PDECGF), cyclo-oxygenase 2 (COX-2), prostaglandin-E2 (PGE2), nitric oxide, Nuclear Factor Kappa Beta (NFKB), matrix metalloproteinases and beta-catenin.
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:03 PM   #306
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This suggest that women with certain genes may be at greater risk of breast cancer if they eat a lot of Omega 6 as well.

This is increased risk over the basic risks created by too much Omega 6 in the diet.

n-6 polyunsaturated fat = Omega 6

5-lipoxygenase = a downstream chemical family made from Omega 6


1: Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2008 Oct;17(10):2748-54.Click here to read Links
5-lipoxygenase and 5-lipoxygenase-activating protein gene polymorphisms, dietary linoleic acid, and risk for breast cancer.
Wang J, John EM, Ingles SA.

Tufts Medical Center, Tufts University School of Medicine, Boston, Massachusetts 02111, USA. jwang1@tuftsmedicalcenter.org

The n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acid 5-lipoxygenase pathway has been shown to play a role in the carcinogenesis of breast cancer. We conducted a population-based case-control study among Latina, African-American, and White women from the San Francisco Bay area to examine the association of the 5-lipoxygenase gene (ALOX5) and 5-lipoxygenase-activating protein gene (ALOX5AP) with breast cancer risk. Three ALOX5AP polymorphisms [poly(A) microsatellite, -4900 A>G (rs4076128), and -3472 A>G (rs4073259)] and three ALOX5 polymorphisms [Sp1-binding site (-GGGCGG-) variable number of tandem repeat polymorphism, -1279 G>T (rs6593482), and 760 G>A (rs2228065)] were genotyped in 802 cases and 888 controls. We did not find significant main effects of ALOX5 and ALOX5AP genotypes on breast cancer risk that were consistent across race or ethnicity; however, there was a significant interaction between the ALOX5AP -4900 A>G polymorphism and dietary linoleic acid intake (P=0.03). Among women consuming a diet high in linoleic acid (top quartile of intake, >17.4 g/d), carrying the AA genotype was associated with higher breast cancer risk (age- and race-adjusted odds ratio, 1.8; 95% confidence interval, 1.2-2.9) compared with carrying genotypes AG or GG. Among women consuming <or=17.4 g/d of linoleic acid, ALOX5AP -4900 genotype was not associated with breast cancer risk (age- and race-adjusted odds ratio, 0.9; 95% confidence interval, 0.7-1.2). [COLOR="Red"][/COLThese results support a role for n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids in breast carcinogenesis and suggest that epidemiologic studies on dietary fat and breast cancer should take into account genetic predisposition related to n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acid OR]
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:06 PM   #307
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Anticancer actions of omega-3 fatty acids--current state and future perspectives.
Wendel M, Heller AR.

Department of Physiology, Medical Faculty Carl Gustav Carus, University of Technology, Dresden, Germany. MartinaWendel@gmx.de

Omega-3 fatty acids (omega3-FA) were shown to attenuate growth and induce apoptosis in a variety of human cancer cell lines derived from colonic, pancreatic, prostate, and breast cancer. In addition, recent findings indicate that omega3-FA act synergistically with chemotherapeutic agents and may also be used to enhance tumour radiosensitivity. The mechanisms underlying the anti-tumour effects of omega3-FA are complex. Incorporation of omega3-FA in biological membranes alters the profile of lipid mediators generated during inflammatory reactions. Furthermore, omega3-FA act as ligands of nuclear peroxisome proliferator-activated receptors that attenuate transcription of NF-kappaB-dependent genes. Thereby, the cyclooxygenase-2/prostaglandin E(2)-dependent production of pro-angiogenic vascular endothelial growth factor and levels of anti-apoptotic bcl-2 and bcl-X(L) are decreased. Eicosanoid-independent pro-apoptotic pathways include enhanced lipid peroxidation, modulation of mitochondrial calcium homeostasis and enhanced production of reactive oxygen species as well as activation of p53. This review article will give a comprehensive overview over the pleiotropic actions of omega3-FA and will discuss the potential of omega3-FA and derivatives like conjugated eicosapentaenoic acid as important nutritional adjuvant therapeutics in the management of various human cancer diseases and the impact of nutritional omega-3 FA on cancer prevention.
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1: Nutr Cancer. 2009;61(3):287-301.Links
Antineoplastic effects of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids in combination with drugs and radiotherapy: preventive and therapeutic strategies.
Calviello G, Serini S, Piccioni E, Pessina G.

Institute of General Pathology, Catholic University, L.go F. Vito, 1, Rome 00168, Italy. g.calviello@rm.unicatt.it

Many data support the beneficial effect of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) as chemopreventive and chemotherapeutic agents in the treatment of several chronic pathologies including cancer. Different molecular mechanisms have been proposed to explain their effects, including alterations in arachidonic acid oxidative metabolism and metabolic conversion of n-3 PUFAs to novel discovered bioactive derivatives; modification of oxidative stress; changes in cell membrane fluidity and structure and altered metabolism and function of membrane proteins. Considerable knowledge has been recently gathered on the possible beneficial effects of n-3 PUFAs administered in combination with different antineoplastic drugs and radiotherapy against melanoma, leukemia, neuroblastoma, and colon, breast, prostate, and lung cancer. The efficacy of these combinations has been demonstrated both in vivo and in vitro, and clinical trials have also been conducted. The aim of this review is to analyze all the n-3 PUFA combinations investigated so far, their efficacy, and the possible molecular mechanisms involved. It would be highly auspicable that the detailed analysis of the literature in this field could further support the common use of n-3 PUFAs in combination with other chemopreventive agents and warrant more clinical investigations designed to test the effectiveness of n-3 PUFA treatments coupled with conventional antineoplastic therapies.
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Old 07-12-2009, 06:41 PM   #309
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Thanks so much for all this information--it is fabulous but at the same time a bit overwhelming and a bit confusing to me....

I researched the 'mercury issue' and found the brand I take to be the best--- I just started taking "Nordic Naturals" Brand--bottled-
"Complete-Omega 3*6*9" the recommended dosage is 1 teaspoon daily--

How does that fit within your vast knowledge noted here??

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Thanks so much for all this information--it is fabulous but at the same time a bit overwhelming and a bit confusing to me....
Thanks for the kind thought.

Most of the information you need is contained in the first post. The problem is if I say just;

1. Significantly cut down on your plant-based Omega six intake
2. Balance your Omega three and six plant based intake
3. Ensure you get an adequate supply of long chain Omega three DHA and EPA
4. Make sure you have enough minerals iodine and vitamin D

because this will reduce your risk of breast cancer, nobody is going to take any notice.

I post the trials to make the point that there is a significant amount of evidence that Omega six increases and Omega three reduces the risk of breast cancer.

Nordic naturals is a very good brand but you really need fish oil and not a 3 6 9 oil. Nordic sell fish oils by the bottle too. http://www.nordicnaturals.com/en/Pro...8/?ProdID=1425

The body makes Omega 9s. Omega sixes are everywhere in the food chain. Most vegetable oils with the exception of olive and macadamia are very high in Omega 6, and the problem for most of us is avoiding Omega six rather than taking more of it.

All good quality refined fish oils are going to be mercury free. For those on a budget fish oil in the bottle is a cheaper option. Modern quality refined oils DO NOT "REPEAT".

Fish has to be the first choice because it contains minerals and other valuable nutrients. Fish and shellfish is the best source of minerals. Most short lived fish from the marine environment do not contain very much mercury. Seaweed is also a good source of minerals, and contains significant amounts of iodine which can be an issue for those with thyroid problems. The Japanese eat a lot of seaweed and are generally quite healthy.

This is a list from the USFDA. Avoid tuna and stick to the fish on the low mercury part of the list and you can eat almost as much as you want without doing any harm. http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/P.../ucm115644.htm

Trials have suggested that even for pregnant women the benefits of the Omega threes and minerals from the sensibly chosen fish far outweighed the negative effects of the pollution they contain.

Most people with high Omega six intake need 1 to 2 g a day of Omega three EPA and DHA combined, which is 2 to 4 teaspoons of a quality refined fish oil. If you are on blood thinning medication or heart medication you should discuss taking Omega threes with your doctor. Please advise your doctors prior to surgery that you are taking fish oil.

You also need to check the label for the amount of vitamin A and vitamin D contained in the fish oil. In most products they take the vitamin A and vitamin D out and replace it with lower levels, so it is not an issue, but check anyway.

You also need to get some plant-based Omega three. Flax oil is a good source of plant-based Omega three, and you're looking at maybe a teaspoon of day.

Finally you need to get your Omega six intake down to about 2% of calories which is not easy, and most do not manage it. Most common vegetables are very high in Omega six, so you need to keep an eye out for vegetable oils in all processed foods.

Olive oil only contains about 10% Omega six, but contains useful plant products, and has been associated with lowering the risk of breast cancer. This may be in part because people are replacing Omega six in other oils with Omega nines from olive oil.

Nutrition data.com is a useful site that allows you to look up the Omega 3:6 content of foods.

Seeks nuts and grains are high in Omega sixes generally so try and pick the ones that are lower in Omega six, and eat them in moderation.


I hope this helps.

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Thanks so much R.B for taking the time to educate and inform us and to clarify this for me---
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P13K is a pathway that comes up regularly as a factor in BC trials.

The trial below suggests increased Omega 3 and reduced Omega 6 intake may reduce output of some P13k pathways.


http://www.dana-farber.org/res/resea...er-signal.html

"For more than 20 years, Dana-Farber scientists have been looking for the best way to attack a complex cell-signaling pathway known as PI3K that often goes awry in breast, colon, and other cancers. . ."

http://www.hhmi.org/news/vogelstein20071214.html

"In the study, Amzel, Gabelli, Vogelstein and their colleagues focused on the enzyme complex called PI3K-alpha, which influences how biochemical signals are interpreted by cells. The enzyme complex is made up of two proteins, known as p110 alpha and p85. The complex, Vogelstein explained, normally responds to events that occur on the surface of the cell, such as growth factor stimulation. It responds to those external events by signaling to other proteins inside the cell. “It's kind of the intermediary in the signal transduction pathway,” he said."

Effect of Dietary Fatty Acids on Inflammatory Gene Expression in Healthy Humans*
Kelly L. Weaver{ddagger}§, Priscilla Ivester§1, Michael Seeds{ddagger}, L. Douglas Case¶, Jonathan P. Arm||, and Floyd H. Chilton§

From the From the {ddagger}Department of Internal Medicine, Section on Molecular Medicine, and , Departments of §Physiology and Pharmacology and , ¶Public Health Sciences, Wake Forest University School of Medicine, Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27157 and the , ||Department of Medicine, Brigham and Women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts 02115

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Over the past 100 years, changes in the food supply in Western nations have resulted in alterations in dietary fatty acid consumption, leading to a dramatic increase in the ratio of omega-6 ({omega}6) to {omega}3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) in circulation and in tissues. Increased {omega}6/{omega}3 ratios are hypothesized to increase inflammatory mediator production, leading to higher incidence of inflammatory diseases, and may impact inflammatory gene expression. To determine the effect of reducing the {omega}6/{omega}3 ratio on expression of inflammatory pathway genes in mononuclear cells, healthy humans were placed on a controlled diet for 1 week, then given fish oil and borage oil for an additional 4 weeks. Serum and neutrophil fatty acid composition and ex vivo leukotriene B4 production from stimulated neutrophils were measured at the start and end of the supplementation period and after a 2-week washout. RNA was isolated from mononuclear cells and expression of PI3K, Akt, NF{kappa}B, and inflammatory cytokines was measured by real-time PCR. A marked increase was seen in serum and neutrophil levels of long-chain {omega}3 PUFA concomitant with a reduction in the {omega}6/{omega}3 PUFA ratio (40%). The ex vivo capacity of stimulated neutrophils to produce leukotriene B4 was decreased by 31%. Expression of PI3K{alpha} and PI3K{gamma} and the quantity of PI3K{alpha} protein in mononuclear cells was reduced after supplementation, as was the expression of several proinflammatory cytokines. These data reveal that PUFA may exert their clinical effects via their capacity to regulate the expression of signal transduction genes and genes for proinflammatory cytokines.

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Re: The traditional diet of Greece and cancer.

This is about colorectal cancer not BC but the messages and probably many of the mechanisms are the same. Thanks Martie for sending me the link http://www.radiomartie.com/

"Their findings suggested that “the dietary total omega-6 to omega-3 PUFA ratio was strongly associated with colorectal cancer risk”. Indeed, increasing ratios of omega-6 to omega-3 were associated with increased risks of colorectal cancer. Compared to women with the lowest ratio, women with the highest ratio of omega-6 to -3 had a relative risk 95 per cent higher."

http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/...w/print/256189

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A prospective study of dietary polyunsaturated fatty acids and colorectal cancer risk in Chinese women.
Murff HJ, Shu XO, Li H, Dai Q, Kallianpur A, Yang G, Cai H, Wen W, Gao YT, Zheng W.

Department of Medicine, Vanderbilt Epidemiology Center, Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, TN 37203-1738, USA. Harvey.j.murff@vanderbilt.edu

In animal models of colon cancer, n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) have antineoplastic properties, whereas n-6 PUFAs may promote carcinogenesis. Prior epidemiologic studies have been inconsistent regarding the association of PUFAs and colorectal cancer. We prospectively evaluated the association between PUFA intake and colorectal cancer in a cohort of 73,242 Chinese women who were interviewed in person at the baseline survey for the Shanghai Women's Health Study. Dietary fatty acid consumption was derived using data collected from two food frequency questionnaires administered at baseline and 2 to 3 years later. The dietary total n-6 to n-3 PUFA ratio was strongly associated with colorectal cancer risk. Compared with women in the lowest quintile group, elevated relative risks (RR) were observed for the second [RR, 1.52; 95% confidence intervals (CI), 1.00-2.32], third (RR, 2.20; 95% CI, 1.41-3.45), fourth (RR, 1.65; 95% CI, 0.99-2.75), and fifth (RR, 1.95; 95% CI, 1.07-3.54) quintile groups. Arachidonic acid was associated with colorectal cancer risk with elevated RRs of 1.20(Q2-Q1) (95% CI, 0.87-1.64), 1.44(Q3-Q1) (95% CI, 1.05-1.98), 1.61(Q4-Q1) (95% CI, 1.17-2.23), and 1.39(Q5-Q1) (95% CI, 0.97-1.99; P(trend) = 0.03) with increasing dietary quintile. In a subset of 150 cancer cases and 150 controls, we found a statistically significant trend between an increasing n-6 to n-3 PUFA ratio and increasing production of prostaglandin E(2) (PGE(2)) as measured by urinary PGE(2) metabolites (P = 0.03). These results suggest that dietary PUFA and the ratio of n-6 to n-3 PUFA intake may be positively associated with colorectal cancer risk, and this association may be mediated in part through PGE(2) production.
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Re: The traditional diet of Greece and cancer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmin...or_inhibitor-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmin


I have not seen this mechanism before and know nothing about it, but in general terms it appears to be another mechanism by which Omega 6 increases the risk of BC.

PAI-1 apparently is a poor prognostic factor for BC and is induced by Omega 6 in the cell line examined.

http://serpins.med.unc.edu/~fcc/Rese...erBiology.html (re article in general terms Omega 6 is a much stronger promoter of PPAR gamma than Omega 3 is. OMega 3 is more strongly associated with PPAR alpha)

http://breastcancer.about.com/od/dia...f/upa_pai1.htm


Free fatty acids enhance breast cancer cell migration through plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 and SMAD4.
Byon CH, Hardy RW, Ren C, Ponnazhagan S, Welch DR, McDonald JM, Chen Y.

Department of Cell Biology, University of Alabama at Birmingham, Birmingham, AL, USA.

Obesity is a risk factor for breast cancer and is associated with increased plasma concentrations of free fatty acids (FFAs). We and others have demonstrated that FFA induces plasminogen activator inhibitor-1 (PAI-1) expression in a variety of cells. Emerging evidence supports elevation of PAI-1 as a prognostic marker for breast cancer. Therefore, we hypothesized that FFAs might increase expression of PAI-1 in breast cancer cells and facilitate breast cancer progression. Secreted PAI-1 was higher in invasive and metastatic MDA-MB-231 cells compared with less invasive and non-metastatic Hs578T cells. Utilizing FFAs with different saturation and chain lengths, we demonstrated that linoleic acid induced expression of PAI-1 in MDA-MB-231 cells. Linoleic acid also induced in vitro migration of MDA-MB-231. By contrast, other FFAs tested had little or no effect on PAI-1 expression or migration. Linoleic acid-induced breast cancer cell migration was completely inhibited by virally expressed antisense PAI-1 RNA. Furthermore, increased expression of PAI-1 by FFAs was not detected in the SMAD4-deficient MDA-MB-468 breast carcinoma cells. Electrophoretic mobility-shift assay confirmed that linoleic acid-induced expression of PAI-1 was mediated, at least in part, by SMAD4 in MDA-MB-231 cells. That linoleic acid induces PAI-1 expression in breast cancer cells through SMAD4 provides a novel insight into understanding the relationships between two migration-associated molecules, FFAs, and PAI-1.Laboratory Investigation advance online publication, 14 September 2009; doi:10.1038/labinvest.2009.97.

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MMP9 has been shown in previous posts to be a risk factor in BC.

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Omega-3 fatty acid supplementation decreases matrix metalloproteinase-9 production in relapsing-remitting multiple sclerosis.
Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids 80(2-3):131-6 (2009)
L Shinto, G Marracci, S Baldauf-Wagner, A Strehlow, V Yadav, L Stuber and D Bourdette
Department of Neurology, Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU), 3181 SW Sam Jackson Park Road, CR120 Portland, OR 97239, USA. shintol@ohsu.edu
OBJECTIVES: The primary objective was to evaluate the effect of omega-3 fatty acids (omega-3 FA) on matrix metalloproteinase-9 (MMP-9) production by immune cells in multiple sclerosis (MS). Quality of life, fatty acid levels, and safety were also evaluated. MATERIALS AND METHODS: Ten participants with relapsing-remitting MS (RRMS) received omega-3 FA supplementation (9.6g/day fish oil) in an open-label study. Participants were evaluated at four time points, baseline, after 1 month of omega-3 FA supplementation, after 3 months of omega-3 FA supplementation, and after a 3-month wash out. RESULTS: Immune cell secretion of MMP-9 decreased by 58% after 3 months of omega-3 FA supplementation when compared with baseline levels (p<0.01). This effect was coupled with a significant increase in omega-3 FA levels in red blood cell membranes. CONCLUSIONS: Omega-3 FA significantly decreased MMP-9 levels in RRMS and may act as an immune-modulator that has potential therapeutic benefit in MS patients. | PMID: 19171471 | DOI: 10.1016/j.plefa.2008.12.001
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This is for prostate cancer and not BC but it might get your husbands interested in the subject of Omega 6 and 3 in our diet.

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Neoplasia. 2009 Jul;11(7):692-9.
Prostate tumor growth can be modulated by dietarily targeting the 15-lipoxygenase-1 and cyclooxygenase-2 enzymes.

Kelavkar UP, Hutzley J, McHugh K, Allen KG, Parwani A.

Division of Hematology/Oncology and Cancer Institute, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, PA, USA. kelavkarup@upmc.edu

The main objectives of our study were to determine the bioavailability of omega-3 (omega-3) to the tumor, to understand its mechanisms, and to determine the feasibility of targeting the omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) metabolizing 15-lipoxygenase-1 (15-LO-1) and cyclooxygenase-2 (COX-2) pathways. Nude mice injected subcutaneously with LAPC-4 prostate cancer cells were randomly divided into three different isocaloric (and same percent [%] of total fat) diet groups: high omega-6 linoleic acid (LA), high omega-3 stearidonic acid (SDA) PUFAs, and normal (control) diets. Tumor growth and apoptosis were examined as end points after administration of short-term (5 weeks) omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acid diets. Tumor tissue membranes were examined for growth, lipids, enzyme activities, apoptosis, and proliferation. Tumors from the LA diet-fed mice exhibited the most rapid growth compared with tumors from the control and SDA diet-fed mice. Moreover, a diet switch from LA to SDA caused a dramatic decrease in the growth of tumors in 5 weeks, whereas tumors grew more aggressively when mice were switched from an SDA to an LA diet. Evaluating tumor proliferation (Ki-67) and apoptosis (caspase-3) in mice fed the LA and SDA diets suggested increased percentage proliferation index from the omega-6 diet-fed mice compared with the tumors from the omega-3 SDA-fed mice. Further, increased apoptosis was observed in tumors from omega-3 SDA diet-fed mice versus tumors from omega-6 diet-fed mice. Levels of membrane phospholipids of red blood cells reflected dietary changes and correlated with the levels observed in tumors. Linoleic or arachidonic acid and metabolites (eicosanoid/prostaglandins) were analyzed for 15-LO-1 and COX-2 activities by high-performance liquid chromatography. We also examined the percent unsaturated or saturated fatty acids in the total phospholipids, PUFA omega-6/omega-3 ratios, and other major enzymes (elongase, Delta [Delta]-5-desaturase, and Delta-6-desaturase) of omega-6 catabolic pathways from the tumors. We observed a 2.7-fold increase in the omega-6/omega-3 ratio in tumors from LA diet-fed mice and a 4.2-fold decrease in the ratio in tumors from the SDA diet-fed mice. There was an increased Delta-6-desaturase and Delta-9 desaturase enzyme activities and reduced estimated Delta-5-desaturase activity in tumors from mice fed the SDA diet. Opposite effects were observed in tumors from mice fed the LA diet. Together, these observations provide mechanistic roles of omega-3 fatty acids in slowing prostate cancer growth by altering omega-6/omega-3 ratios through diet and by promoting apoptosis and inhibiting proliferation in tumors by directly competing with omega-6 fatty acids for 15-LO-1 and COX-2 activities.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...3/?tool=pubmed

"After adjusting for confounding variables in the multivariate logistic regression models, postmenopausal subjects consuming more than 0.101 g of EPA and 0.213 g of DHA from fish per day showed a 62% and 68% decreased breast cancer risk compared to the reference group (who consumed less than 0.014 g of EPA and 0.037 g of DHA per day), respectively."



BMC Cancer. 2009 Jun 30;9:216.
Fatty fish and fish omega-3 fatty acid intakes decrease the breast cancer risk: a case-control study.

Kim J, Lim SY, Shin A, Sung MK, Ro J, Kang HS, Lee KS, Kim SW, Lee ES.

Cancer Epidemiology Branch, Division of Cancer Epidemiology and Management, Research Institute, National Cancer Center, Gyeonggi, South Korea. jskim@ncc.re.kr

BACKGROUND: Although it is believed that fish omega-3 fatty acids may decrease breast cancer risk, epidemiological evidence has been inconclusive. This study examined the association between fish and fish omega-3 fatty acids intake with the risk of breast cancer in a case-control study of Korean women. METHODS: We recruited 358 incident breast cancer patients and 360 controls with no history of malignant neoplasm from the National Cancer Center Hospital between July 2007 and April 2008. The study participants were given a 103-item food intake frequency questionnaire to determine their dietary consumption of fish (fatty and lean fish) and omega-3 fatty acids derived from fish (eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA), and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA)). RESULTS: Using a multivariate logistic regression model, high intake of fatty fish was associated with a reduced risk for breast cancer in both pre- and postmenopausal women (OR [95% CI] for highest vs. lowest intake quartiles, p for trend: 0.19 [0.08 to 0.45], p < 0.001 for premenopausal women, 0.27 [0.11 to 0.66], p = 0.005 for postmenopausal women). Similarly, reductions in breast cancer risk were observed among postmenopausal subjects who consumed more than 0.101 g of EPA (OR [95% CI]: 0.38 [0.15 to 0.96]) and 0.213 g of DHA (OR [95% CI]: 0.32 [0.13 to 0.82]) from fish per day compared to the reference group who consumed less than 0.014 g of EPA and 0.037 g of DHA per day. Among premenopausal women, there was a significant reduction in breast cancer risk for the highest intake quartiles of omega-3 fatty acids (ORs [95% CI]: 0.46 [0.22 to 0.96]), compared to the reference group who consumed the lowest quartile of intake. CONCLUSION: These results suggest that high consumption of fatty fish is associated with a reduced risk for breast cancer, and that the intake of omega-3 fatty acids from fish is inversely associated with postmenopausal breast cancer risk.

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The whole paper is on the web for free.

It is well worth a skim just looking for Omega 3 and 6 comments, even if you have difficulty with some of the rest.

FIG 5 clearly cleverly and simply visually explains the Omega 3:6 imbalance


"The results of animal studies have demonstrated that the
consumption of omega-3 fatty acids can slow the growth of
cancer xenografts, increase the efficacy of chemotherapy and
reduce the side effects of the chemotherapy or of the cancer"


http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/132/11/3508S.pdf

Omega-3 Fatty Acids to Augment Cancer Therapy1
W. Elaine Hardman2
Pennington Biomedical Research Center, Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, LA 70808

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The whole paper is free on the Web



Dietary fatty acids regulate the activation status of Her-2/neu (c-erbB-2) oncogene in breast cancer cells

http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...ull/15/11/1719



Summary
"This report shows, to the best of our knowledge for the first time, that dietary FAs previously characterized for either their breast cancer protective effect (ALA, EPA, DHA and OA) or its tumoricidal actions (GLA) significantly downregulate Her-2/neu ECD concentration and, consequently, the activation status of Her-2/neu in SK-Br3 and BT-474 human breast cancer cell lines, which contain Her-2/neu oncogene amplification. Remarkably, LA, a {omega}-6 FA with a strong tumorigenesis stimulating effect, significantly increased Her-2/neu ECD concentration. Our current results using human breast cancer cell lines are in concordance with our previous findings demonstrating that dietary lipids influence DMBA-induced experimental mammary tumorigenesis in female rats though modulation of Her-2/neu expression [11Go]. Although much remains to be learned about the ultimate molecular mechanisms of FAs in relation to Her-2/neu, the recent characterization of a molecular link between Her-2/neu and the proinflammatory prostaglandin biosynthesis catalyzed by the enzyme cyclooxigenase-2 (COX-2) suggest an original working model in which dietary FAs would regulate either the expression and/or the activation status of Her-2/neu oncogene via COX-2 [12Go–15Go]. Nonetheless, it is reasonable to suggest that some types of dietary FAs not only represent promising therapies for prevention and/or management of Her-2/neu-overexpressing breast carcinomas, but also may be even more beneficial when given in combination with novel therapies directed against Her-2/neu. We are currently investigating whether these findings will be helpful in the design of novel approaches to delay or prevent trastuzumab (HerceptinTM) resistance."
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Thanks for posting this article.Surely very soon we will have some definitive answers.For my own part I believe I had massive amounts of omega 6 and 9 in my diet for years prior to diagnosis and very little omega 3. i believe a period of extreme prolonged stress and the release of related hormones lit the touch paper.

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