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Old 09-18-2007, 12:43 PM   #1
Sherryg683
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Been thrown a curve ball

I went in today to get the results of my latest PET/CT scan, thank God, I am still NED. The thing is my Oncologist looked at me and said "are we ready to quit this yet?", meaning my Herceptin that I take weekly. I asked him why, and he said that I've been on it a VERY LONG TIME (almost 2 years). I told him that I wanted to live a VERY LONG TIME. He said that we would continue it until January and then we'd stop it. I said "no", we might go to getting it every 3 weeks but I don't want to stop it. I then told him how some of the gals on my cancer board have been on it for over 5 years to stay NED. He said that the ruling was still out on whether it is beneficial and he knows I've done all the reading, so we'll discuss it more then. I know he'll do whatever I want, I guess he figure I'm just getting mentally tired of it, which I'm not if it keeps me alive. For you other stage IV girls that have been on it along time, does your insurance keep paying for it. Mine has given me no problems yet, didn't figure they would but then who knows? sherryg
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Diagnosed: December , 2005 at age 44
13+ positive lymph nodes
Stage IV , Her2+, 2 small mets to lungsChemo Started: Jan, 2006
4 months Taxotere, Xeloda, Hercepin
NED since April 2006!!
36 Rads to follow with weekly Herceptin indefinately
8 years NED now
Scans every year

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Old 09-18-2007, 12:47 PM   #2
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Hi Sherry - keep on him if it is what you want to do...

Curious, how does your insurance feel about 3 month PET/CTs if you are NED? I am metastatic and they balk at it most everytime, and we only do them every 6 months usually...
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NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

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Old 09-18-2007, 01:08 PM   #3
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Brenda,

My onc was doing PET Scans every six months and is now doing them every three months to monitor the Liver mets. If my insurance has had an issue my onc office hasn't told me about it. They have covered every one of them with no bills being sent to me. Usually if the doctors office pushes they will cover anything. Good luck.

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Old 09-18-2007, 02:39 PM   #4
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I have been very lucky with my insurance. My husband works for Tyco and they are self insured, blue cross just adminsters the plan. They have not questioned anything that I have done and I have had tons of scans. They paid for Tykerb when I asked to get on it, while I was NED. After a week, I got off it because of the side effects but they were willing to keep paying for it. I am waiting for them to say something but they never have. I am going to move my scans to every 4 months now...sherry
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Diagnosed: December , 2005 at age 44
13+ positive lymph nodes
Stage IV , Her2+, 2 small mets to lungsChemo Started: Jan, 2006
4 months Taxotere, Xeloda, Hercepin
NED since April 2006!!
36 Rads to follow with weekly Herceptin indefinately
8 years NED now
Scans every year

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Old 09-18-2007, 09:10 PM   #5
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Hi Sherry,

Just when you think you've got a chronic condition, they start treating you like you're cured! Maybe that's a good omen.

I was on Herceptin for over 2 years, with never a question - although the insurance co did redo the "authorization" once a year. I was always told that as Stage IV I would be on it indefinitely, and I think that is standard for that stage. Many on this forum, as you know, have been on Vit H for a long time.

That said, remember that Gina has been on AND off Herceptin for a lot of years, but she monitors her serum Her2 level closely. She would also agree this is not standard, but has worked in her case.

I think it comes down to what you are comfortable with - but I think insurance would not be an issue for you.

They love to keep you guessing, huh!

Take care
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June 2002 extensive hi grade DCIS (pre-cancer-stage 0, clean sentinal node) Mastectomy/implant - no chemo, rads. "cured?"
9/2004 Diag: Stage IV extensive liver mets (!) ER/PR- Her2+++
10/04-3/05 Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin/Herceptin , complete response!
04/05 - 4/07 Herception every 3 wks, Continue NED
04/07 - recurrence to liver - 2 spots, starting tykerb/avastin trial
06/07 8/07 10/07 Scans show stable, continue on Tykerb/Avastin
01/08 Progression in liver
02/08 Begin (TDM1) trial
08/08 NED! It's Working! Continue on TDM1
02/09 Continue NED
02/10 Continue NED. 5/10 9/10 Scans NED 10/10 Scans NED
12/10 Scans not clear....4/11 Scans suggest progression 6/11 progression confirmed in liver
07/11 - 11/11 Herceptin/Xeloda -not working:(
12/11 Begin MM302 Phase I trial - bust:(
03/12 3rd times the charm? AKT trial

5/12 Scan shows reduction! 7/12 More reduction!!!!
8/12 Whoops...progression...trying for Perjeta/Herceptin (plus some more nasty chemo!)
9/12 Start Perjeta/Herceptin, chemo on hold due to infection/wound in leg, added on cycle 2 &3
11/12 Poops! progression in liver, Stop Perjeta/Taxo/Herc
11/12 Navelbine/Herce[ptin - try for a 3 cycles, no go.
2/13 Gemzar/Carbo/Herceptin - no go.
3/13 TACE procedure
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