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Old 11-21-2016, 05:40 AM   #1
Benk
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Good response to treatment no mastectomy

Just wondering if anybody has any advice or the same experience , my wife has her2 positive which has metastasis she has had great response to her treatments with the recent scans showing no "sign" of cancer in the Breast
now , So the oncologist is saying that a mastectomy is not on the cards at this point as it would reduce the immune system suggesting they would watch it and deal with it should it become an issue further down the track.
Has anybody had this experience ?
Once again thanks
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Old 11-27-2016, 06:43 AM   #2
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Re: Good response to treatment no mastectomy

Dear Benk,

So glad your wife is responding well to treatment!

I have never had breast surgery. My original breast tumor still lights up on scans most of the time. Your doctor's advice is "mainstream," though some take a different view.

Last I checked, there was no controlled, prospective study that showed definitively that removal of the original tumor in someone who's metastatic at diagnosis improves overall survival. There have been retrospective studies that try to answer that question, but there are too many confounding factors to get a good answer. For example, it's quite likely that people will only be offered surgery if their overall health (besides the cancer) is good and if they seem likely to live long enough for it to be worth it.

General anesthesia suppresses the immune system. Recovering from major surgery takes time, energy, and healing resources. There are risks from surgery, including hospital-acquired infections. I don't know where you are, but in the US it's a major threat. The breast is not a vital organ, so cancer in the breast does not kill. No one really knows for sure how metastasis works. It seems to me, especially with HER-2+ breast cancer, the cells that break free and go take up residence in bones or distant organs do that early on in the cancer's development. Maybe the original tumor is still sending out patrols that establish beachheads elsewhere. But, on the other hand, there's a theory that the original tumor actually suppresses proliferation of metastases. Often when it's removed the metastases get bigger and stronger.

If the cancer in the breast appears to be gone, then that's wonderful news.
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4/19/11 Diagnosed invasive ductal carcinoma in left breast; 2.3 cm tumor, 1 axillary lymph node, weakly ER+, HER2+++
4/29/11 CT scan shows suspicious lesions on liver and lungs
5/17/11 liver biopsy
5/24/11 liver met confirmed--Stage IV at diagnosis
5/27/11 Begin weekly Taxol & Herceptin for 3 months (standard of care at the time of my DX)
7/18/11 Switch to weekly Abraxane & Herceptin due to Taxol allergy
8/29/11 CT scan shows no new lesions & old lesions shrinking
9/27/11 Finish Abraxane. Start Herceptin every 3 weeks. Begin taking Arimidex
10/17/11--Brain MRI--No Brain mets
12/5/11 PET scan--Almost NED
5/15/12 PET scan shows progression-breast/chest/spine (one vertebra)
5/22/12 Stop taking Arimidex; stay on Herceptin
6/11/12 Started Tykerb and Herceptin on clinical trial (w/no chemo)
9/24/12 CT scan--No new mets. Everything stable.
3/11/13 CT Scan--two small new possible mets and odd looking area in left lung getting larger.
4/2/13--Biopsy of suspicious area in lower left lung. Mets to lung confirmed.
4/30/13 Begin Kadcyla/TDM-1
8/16/13 PET scan "mixed," with some areas of increased uptake, but also some definite improvement, so I'll stay on TDM-1/Kadcyla.
11/11/13 Finally get hormone receptor results from lung biopsy of 4/2/13. My cancer is no longer ER positive.
11/13/13 PET scan mixed results again. We're calling it "stable." Problems breathing on exertion.
2/18/14 PET scan shows a new lesion and newly active lymph node in chest, other progression. Bye bye TDM-1.
2/28/14 Begin Herceptin/Perjeta every 3 weeks.
6/8/14 PET "mixed," with no new lesions, and everything but lower lungs improving. My breathing is better.
8/18/14 PET "mixed" again. Upper lungs & one spine met stable, lower lungs less FDG avid, original tumor more avid, one lymph node in mediastinum more avid.
9/1/14 Begin taking Xeloda one week on, one week off. Will also stay on Herceptin and Perjeta every three weeks.
12/11/14 PET Scan--no new lesions, and everything looks better than it did.
3/20/15 PET Scan--no new lesions, but lower lung lesions larger and a bit more avid.
4/13/15 Increasing Xeloda dose to 10 days on, one week off.
7/1/15 Scan "mixed" again, but suggests continuing progression. Stop Xeloda. Substitute Abraxane every 3 weeks starting 7/13.
10/28/15 PET scan shows dramatic improvement everywhere. All lesions except lower lungs have resolved; lower lungs noticeably improved.
12/18/15 Last Abraxane. Continue on Herceptin and Perjeta alone beginning 1/8/16.
1/27/16 PET scan shows cancer is stable.
5/11/16 PET scan shows uptake in some areas that were resolved on the last two scans.
6/3/16 Begin Kadcyla and Tykerb combination
6/5 - 6/23 Horrible diarrhea from K&T together. Got pneumonia.
7/15/16 Begin Kadcyla only every 3 weeks.
9/6/16 Begin radiation therapy on right lung lesion that caused the pneumonia.
10/3/16 Last of 12 radiation treatments to right lung.
11/4/16 Huffing and puffing, low O2, high heart rate, on tiniest bit of exertion. Diagnosed as radiation pneumonitis. Treated with Prednisone.
11/11/16 PET scan shows significant improvement to radiated part of right lung BUT a bunch of new lung lesions, and the bone met is getting worse.
11/22/16 Begin Eribulin and Herceptin. H every 3 weeks. E two weeks on, one week off.
3/6/17 Scan shows progression in lungs. Bone met a little better.
3/23/17 Lung biopsy. Tumor sampled is ER-, PR+ (5%), HER2+++. Getting Herceptin and Perjeta as a maintenance treatment.
5/31/17 Port placement
6/1/17 Start Navelbine & Tykerb
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:12 AM   #3
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Re: Good response to treatment no mastectomy

Hi mtngrl
Thanks for that info once again you have been a great help to me ,that now makes sense you have filled in the blanks that the oncologist didn't elaborate on.
We are in Australia but it seems the base treatment is the same around the world.
Thanks for your well wishes I hope you are doing well.
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