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Old 09-21-2010, 08:43 AM   #1
Debbie L.
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Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

NBCC has launched a bold initiative. I am eager to hear more about the steps we can take to make this happen, but the first step is to get the word out. This link is to one page, but if you use the tabs above the main window, you can get more information, including a well-written whitepaper with more information. In the "hear what the experts say" page, Denny Slamon is featured, along with Susan Love and Kim Lyerly. Be sure to go to the voting page "choose a side" and cast your vote. As one of the first comments says "why would anyone vote no?".

http://www.stopbreastcancer.org/2020...-deadline.html

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(PS: if your JW player (whatever that is) is not up to date, you might have trouble viewing the videos. Click on the JW player icon that pops up in the bottom left of the video window and you can update it quickly and easily)
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3/01 ~ Age 49. Occult primary announced by large (6cm) axillary node, found by my husband.
4/01 ~ Bilateral mastectomies (LMRM, R elective simple) - 1.2cm IDC was found at pathology. 5 of 11 axillary nodes positive, largest = 6cm. Stage IIIA
ERPR 5%/1% (re-done later at Baylor, both negative at zero).
HER2neu positive by IHC and FISH (8.89).
Lymphovascular invasion, grade 3, 8/9 modified SBR.
TX: Control of arm of NSABP's B-31 adjuvant Herceptin trial (no Herceptin, inducing a severe case of Herceptin-envy): A/C x 4 and Taxol x 4 q3weeks, then rads. Raging infection of entire chest after small revision of mastectomy scar after completing tx (significance unknown). Arimidex for two years, stopped after second pathology opinion.
2017: Mild and manageable lymphedema and some cognitive issues.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:56 AM   #2
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Re: Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

Hi,
i almost did not read your post because of the headline..Hope more people will read. it is inspirational..your diagnosis is similiar to mine. Glad to read that.
Many years of happy healthy life to you. Thanks for posting in.
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dx- march 2010 age 35 stage 3a 4 of 9 pos. nodes
idc 2.2 ininvasive 7cm of dcis er/pr- her2+
april 15 2010 bilateral masectomy w/ tissue expanders
may 4 2010 port import
may 6 2010 clean ct scan & bone scan
may 11 2010 start 4 A/C (finish aug 3 2010)
aug 17 2010 start weekly herceptine & taxol 12xs (end date of oct 19 2010)
nov-dec 2010 30 radation
(plan permanent implants for feb or mar 2011)
continue on herceptine till aug 2011

Love & prayers to everyone
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Old 09-21-2010, 05:47 PM   #3
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Re: Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

Hey! What a wonderful idea! I always perform better with a deadline....
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Dx'd w/multifocal DCIS/IDS 3/08
7mm invasive component
Partial mast. 5/08
Stage 1b, ER 80%, PR 90%, HER-2 6.9 on FISH
0/5 nodes
4 AC, 4 TH finished 9/08
Herceptin every 3 weeks. Finished 7/09
Tamoxifen 10/08. Switched to Femara 8/09
Bilat SPM w/reconstruction 10/08
Clinical Trial w/Clondronate 12/08
Stopped Clondronate--too hard on my gizzard!
Switched back to Tamoxifen due to tendon pain from Femara

15 Years NED
I think I just might hang around awhile....

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Old 09-22-2010, 03:46 AM   #4
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Re: Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

I deleted my thoughts on this because they weren't very positive. (Sorry...just feeling a bit down tonight.) It's not the same thing...but it's close to what President Nixon did 40 yrs ago. But if setting a deadline helps in anyway I'm all for it.

Thanks for sharing this Debbie.

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DX: 12-20-05 - Stage IIIA, Her2/Neu, 3+++,Er & Pr weakly positive, 5 of 16 pos nodes.
Rt. MRM on 1-3-06 -- No Rads due to compromised lungs.
Chemo started 2-7-06 -- TCH - - Finished 6-12-06
Finished yr of wkly herceptin 3-19-07
3-15-07 Lt side prophylactic simple mastectomy. -- Ooph 4-05-07
9-21-09 PET/CT "Recurrence" to Rt. axllia, Rt. femur, ilium. Possible Sacrum & liver? Now stage IV.
9-28-09 Loading dose of Herceptin & started Zometa
9-29-09 Power Port Placement
10-24-09 Mass 6.4 x 4.7 cm on Rt. femur head.
11-19-09 RT. Femur surgery - Rod placed
12-7-09 Navelbine added to Herceptin/Zometa.
3-23-10 Ten days of rads to RT femur. Completed.
4-05-10 Quit Navelbine--Herceptin/Zometa alone.
5-4-10 Appt. with Dr. Slamon to see what is next? Waiting on FISH results from femur biopsy.
Results to FISH was unsuccessful--this happens less then 2% of the time.
7-7-10 Recurrence to RT axilla again. Back to UCLA for options.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:20 AM   #5
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Re: Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

Interesting concept. Excerpts that struck me from the white paper:

"As we learn more about breast cancer subtypes, evidence grows that many drugs benefit a small group of women, yet they are given to all. Chemotherapy drugs are often added to treatment regimens without a great deal of evidence of benefit. When longer-term evidence indicates benefit is limited and harm exists, existing treatments are rarely removed from regimens, regardless of the strength of evidence against their use. For example, many women diagnosed with invasive breast cancer of different subtypes continue to receive anthracyclines, though evidence shows that the drugs may only provide incremental benefit to a small group of patients, and could be replaced with a less toxic substitute."

"Breast cancer research over the decades has produced elegant science and thousands of research papers, but little that has had a big impact on patients or those at risk. It is possible for researchers to gain significant acclaim for their work, and to be judged highly successful by the scientific world's measurement, without having helped a single patient. The system rewards safe ideas and discourages innovative ones that might lead to the big breakthroughs in prevention and treatment. The infrastructure of breast cancer research is to keep things moving along as they have been and to reward people for doing safe, low-impact work. These obstacles are not scientific challenges but rather organizational and systemic dysfunctions. These are problems with solutions."

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Old 09-22-2010, 05:48 PM   #6
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Re: Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

it made me cry.

it's on my FB page now with that attention-getting title. thank you for posting. valerie
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8/09 - IDC 1.8 cm triple positive, lumpectomy left breast
10/09 began chemo (taxotere & carboplatin) and weekly herceptin.
1/21/10 finished chemo, continued on herceptin every 3 weeks until 10/2010.
2/10 began 7 wks of radiation
6/10 mom dies of primary peritoneal ovarian cancer
8/10 got my last remaining ovary out
10/10 mammogram all clear
3/11 MRI shows 5 'spots' in right breast, largest 1 cm unidentifiable on US
needle biopsy proved the largest to be old inflamed cyst -phew!
7/10 switched to Arimidex
8/9 switched to Femara - allergic to arimidex
Femara made me lose hair quickly so switched to Aromasin
Aromasin made my hair fall out too and the bone pain was too much.
back on Tamoxifen 1/2013.
blood clot from trains and planes 5/2014 so on coumadin per onco for as long as i am on tamoxifen
tamoxifen was supposed to be up with my 5 yrs in may but my boyfriend was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer so i am staying on tamoxifen indefinitely because i want some ammo against BC, given the stress. lost my husband in only 10 wks in 2007 to stage 4 esophageal cancer.
cancer's screwing with another man i love
2/2016 - 6yrs in remission, off tamoxifen and off coumadin - yay!
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:37 PM   #7
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Re: Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

Great idea - thanks for posting it Debbie!
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2/5/08 - dx age 53, post-menopausal;
IDC Stage 1, Grade 1
ER+ 90% /PR+ 90% /Her2++++, BRAC1 & 2 neg
3/5/08 - mast with muscle-sparing free tram;
0/7 nodes clear; Stage 1 lymphedema in right arm
3/11/08 - MRSA infection in abdomen causes large hernia
4/11/08 - Oncotype DX score 22 (intermediate)
4/12/08 - Muga score 67%
4/23/08 - Chemo, Navelbine and Herceptin every 2 weeks
8/20/08 - Last Navelbine infusion! Yay!
1/22/09 - First mammo since dx - unaffected breast CLEAR!
1/30/09 - Second Muga score 63%
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Old 09-24-2010, 03:12 PM   #8
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Re: Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

Thanks, I also just posted it on my FB page!
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Dx July '05 IDC 1.9cm Triple positive 3/9 nodes positive
A/C X 4 ..Taxol/Herceptin x 12 wks then herceptin 1 yr
Rads x 36 ..oophorectomy August '06
Currently taking Arimidex..
June 2011 osteopenia/ zometa x1 yearly- stopped Zometa 2015 as Dexa show normal bone density.
Stopped Arimidex July 2014- Restarted Arimidex 2015 for a further two years on the advice of my Onc.
2014 Normal Dexa scan
2018 Mammo all clear, still NED!
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:55 AM   #9
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Re: Giving Up Hope - are you with us?

Hi, just adding my usual 10 cents here:

http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...d=1#post236356


P.S.

Explicit limitation of the purpose and application of the NCCN guidelines:

"The NCCN Guidelines are used by doctors in academic centers and community practices to inform their decisions when diagnosing and treating cancer."
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Dx 2002 age 51
bc for granny, aunt, cousin, sister, mother.
ER+/PR+/HER2+++, grade 3
IDC 1.9 cm, some DCIS, Stage 1, Grade 3
Lumpectomy, CAFx6 (no blood boosters), IMRT rads, 1 3/4 yr tamoxifen
Rads necrosis
BRCA 1 & 2 negative
Trials: Early detection OVCA; 2004 low-dose testosterone for bc survivors
Diet: Primarily vegetarian organic; metformin (no diabetes), vitamin D3
Exercise: 7 days a week, 1 hr/day
No trastuzumab, no taxane, no AI
NED

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