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Old 04-11-2007, 12:03 PM   #1
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Has anyone else ordered Tykerb yet?

I just got my Tykerb order yesterday. I must say the process was long and it seem inefficient.

First I got a call from GSK saying they had received the prescription and would be forwarding it on to a pharmacy. The next day I got a call from the pharmacy, saying they had received it, and went over my home address.

Then I got a 2nd call from the pharmacy to verify how I was going to pay for the co-pay.

3rd call came the next day and I wasn't home, so they left a message. Called them back on Monday, and they started quizzing me on the reasons for being prescriped Tykerb. I got annoyed, I wasn't feeling that great, and pushed back and asked why she needed to ask all those questions if my onc prescribed it for me and my ins co was covering.

She claimed she had to do it, and proceeds to verbally give me the Tykerb side-effects. I had already gotten that from the onc's office as well as a hand-out so it was all wasted effort.

Finally the Tykerb arrived on Tuesday am, almost a week after my onc sent my prescription GSK cares program.

Did I just get a messed up pharmacy or are others having to wait this long?
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:44 PM   #2
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Hi Esther,

I read about someone waiting a while for their Lapatanib on another board. It finally came in the mail after a fairly long wait.

I am glad that it came. How do you feel after your first dose?

Love, Hope, and Peace,

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Old 04-11-2007, 08:11 PM   #3
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Esther, what stage are you?
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:20 PM   #4
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Esther, a friend from my center is getting started on the process, and I'm probably starting the paperwork next week, will post how it goes but gosh, it seems pretty strange that we have to go through all this if we have insurance, our oncs have prescribed an approved drug, and we NEED it. Doesn't seem like Genentech made it so difficult when Herceptin was finally approved.

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Old 04-11-2007, 10:36 PM   #5
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Carolyn, after my dosage I do not feel any side effects that I can tell, but perhaps the effects are cumulative.

Michelle I am stage 4, I am in my 4th year now.
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:37 AM   #6
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3 weeks process

I got my 30 day supply delivered yesterday after 3 weeks of co-ordinating with a doctor and a pharmacy... I paid for my supply.

Fairly hassle free... starting soon... need to undertake excision of a tumour first.
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:20 AM   #7
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tykerb/xeloda DAY 7

It took me nearly a week to get Tykerb w/Xeloda. Then it took me an entire night and day of obsessing to figure out what to take when. It didn't help that my doc's advice contradicted the Tykerb instructions. It did help to call Tykerb Cares, they were informative. Dispite the cheesy name, they do care and connected me to a pharmacist right away.

Here's my routine: I get up, (have to have my coffee), take tykerb then wait an hour (while I shower and get dressed, make up, house tidy, etc) and then I eat and then I take the xeloda.

The first few days I had some queasy waves but mild. Also have a loose stomach. I started taking CULTERELLE, a probiotic, and that really calmed my tummy gurgling and diarhia. I prefer Culterelle because they don't require refridgeratrion but any probiotic will help the gastro track.

Today is day #7 and so far I'm really doing okay. Reading stories of encouragement and survival, on this site, has been extremely helpful and hopeful for me. I am starting to get back on my feet, since the met. diagnosis of April 9th. Starting to breathe again and have hope. Thanks to all who takes the time to post. --Flori
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:44 AM   #8
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Esther-

Although my onc talked to me about it over a week ago, only today did they have me fill out the paperwork. I wil see how long it takes to get. Also am not certain about insurance, but I am hoping it will be covered. I was on tykerb previously (with xeloda) and had no additional side effects, as I already had H/F and diarrhea.

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Old 04-12-2007, 11:19 AM   #9
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Flori, stay in touch, as that is the regimen I will be on, Tykerb/Xeloda as well as Herceptin.

I am experiencing nausea as well, even thought it is only my 2nd day of Tykerb.
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:48 PM   #10
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Ester, I had symptoms the first two days and then felt fine the next few days. Don't really know why but you will be glad to know that on day 7 it's not worse than day 1 - and actually better - no nausea. My energy is dropping off but the emotional toll is exhausting. Right now I am wondering why my onc didn't put me back on herceptin with the Tykerb/Xeloda. It seems like a few people are on that regime. I have been too chicken to ask my staging or ask for a copy of my scans - very unlike me to bury my head. Maybe next week I'll ask. Stay in touch. Flori
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:10 AM   #11
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Last week, my Oncologist told me that he is adding Tykerb to my weekly Herceptin treatment in mid-June. I will be in an "EAP without Herceptin Failure".

The information in this thread (drug delivery, etc.) is an eye-opener. Many thanks to all of you, as I am able to ask my Oncologist more intelligent questions.

I will post information as I work through the process.

Thank you, again,

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08/2004 - Neo-adjuvant Taxotere/Carboplatin/Herceptin (TCH) - 4 rounds.
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12/2004 - Lumpectomy, axillary node dissection, followed w/TCH - 2 rounds.
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06/2012 - Start 16 rounds Navelbine and Herceptin weekly.
11/2012 - Liver resection, RFAs (8), lymphadenectomy (2), cholecystectomy.
12/2012 - Herceptin and Letrozole.
05/2014 - Mets: 5 aortocaval nodes & 1 mesenteric.
06/2014 - Herceptin/Perjeta/Taxotere - 6 rounds.
10/2014 - Herceptin / Perjeta - Open ended
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05/2015 - Exploratory surgery treating progression, 12 nodes removed.
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02/2016 - Starting T-DM1 (Kadcyla) - Open ended.
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:12 PM   #12
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Hi Esther,

It took 3 weeks to finally get my tykerb prescription filled but the problem was CIGNA - my onc prescribed it without Xeloda (I had already had 10 months of Xeloda about 6 years ago and ended it when I had progression.) Also, I had never had an anthracycline so after nearly three weeks of back and forth with my insurance company and my doc, I was finally approved. From that point forward, it went smoothly.

I think with any new drug that is expensive, there is going to be some hassle - we are paving the way for our sisters!

Good luck with the Tykerb!

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2000 - Bone mets to left scapula and right ribs
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2/2001- Rt. lung - 6 mm tumor
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2/2001 - 12/2006
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7/2006 - Pleural effusion - thoracentesis performed twice
1/2007 - Pleuradesis and Taxotere x 5
4/2007 - Stopped Herceptin after 8 years (weekly).
Started Tykerb with Taxotere but stopped after 10 days
5/2007 - Stopped Taxotere, restarted Tykerb and Herceptin
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:12 PM   #13
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Hi Flori,

Thank you for your encouraging beautiful letter. Hope this finds you well!
How did it go with the oncologist? Was he helpful about the side effects?
Are you off the Xeloda all week?

It sounds like you had been through the worse in the past years. Mental illness can be devastating to everyone involved. I was very sorry to hear about your divorce. I also notice that even now you are thinking about your children more than about yourself.

I too had a terribly stressful year before my diagnosis with trying to nurse back to life one of my kids who was gravely ill. She did recover which is our miracle and I really don't regret anything. Now it is the time to take care of ourselves. I'm trying to find a new balance of selfishness and doing things for others.

You are right about the fear factor being worse than any cancer or side effect. What helps me most is that I make myself believe that the kids and my husband will be OK even if something happens to me.

My counts were still quite low two weeks ago but it is just wonderful to feel relatively well after the chemo/surgery/rad ordeal. I hope you will be cancer free and well again after this X + T treatment and will be able to enjoy your wonderful new relationship and keeping in touch with your children while they are in college.

I'm still waiting for my Tykerb approval, at least I don't have to start on the Xeloda yet either.

Thanks for asking for the special Tykerb Xeloda section! It worked out well.
Let us know how is everything going, and I’ll keep you updated too.

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Stage IV, Jan 12, 2007 recurrence in cervical lymph nodes while on Herceptin, stopped Herceptin
Rad oncologist extended the radiation field, good response
Started Tykerb Xeloda on beginning of May 2007
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:18 AM   #14
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side effects - details

Hi BHutchison,

To answer your questions re: tykerb/xeloda...nausea is mild, low grade, ANNOYING but no puking. Tykerb alone is mild nausea on and off controlled by mints, or saltines. T/xeloda combo is worse, but I have not taken zofran yet. The diarrhia is the worst of my symptoms, along with total lack of appetite. It's that constant low level feeling of not feeling well, being queezy, the runs, etc. it all adds up to a difficult day. (Actually spelling all these words is pretty hard, as well.)

I think the Tykerb is very do-able - probably similar to herceptin once your system adjusts. The Xeloda is more challanging but you can also mess around with the dosing a bit to find the amount you can stand. Ask your onc for some guidelines. I have heard of one week on, one week off on Xeloda and would like to find out more about it. I plan to tough out at least another round of this crap and just keep praying.

Stay strong! --Flori
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2002 recurrence. Bilateral mastectomy w/TFL autologous recon. Then ACx2. Skin lymphatic rash. Taxotere w/Herceptin x4. Herceptin/Xeloda. Finally stops spreading.
2003 - Back to surgery, remove skin mets, and will have surgery one week later when pathology can confirm margins.
‘03 latisimus dorsi flap to remove skin mets. CLEAN MARGINS. Continue single agent Herceptin thru 4/04. NED.
‘04 '05 & 06 tiny recurrences - scar line. surgery to cut out. NED each time.
1/2006 Rads again, to scar line. NED.

3/07 Heartbreaking news - mets! lungs.sternum. Try Tykerb/Xeloda. Tykerb/Carbo/Gemzar. Switch Oncs.
12/07 Herceptin.Tykerb. Markers go stable.
2/8/08 gamma knife 13mm stupid brain met.
3/08 Herceptin/tykerb/avastin/zometa.
3/09 brain NED. Lungs STABLE.
4/09 attack sternum (10 daysPHOTONS.5 days ELECTRONS)
9/09 MARKERS normal!
3/10 PET/CT=manubrium intensely metabolically active but stable. NEDhead.
Wash out 5/10 for tdm1 but 6/10 CT STABLE, PET improving. Markers normal. Brain NED. Resume just Herceptin plus ZOMETA
Dec 2010 Brain NED, lungs/sternum stable. markers normal.
MAR 2011 stop Herceptin/allergy! Go back on Tykerb and switch to Xgeva.
May-Aug 2011 Tykerb Herceptin Xgeva.
Sept 2011 Tykerb, Herceptin, Zometa, Avastin.
April 2012 sketchy drug trial in NYC. 6 weeks later I’m NED!
OCT 2012 PET/CT shows a bunch of freakin’ progression. Back to LA and Herceptin.avastin.zometa.
12/20/12 add in PERJETA!
March 2013 – 5 YEARS POST continue HAPZ
APRIL 2013 - 6 yrs stage 4. "FAILED" PETscan on 4/2/13
May 2013: rePetted - improvement in lungs, left adrenal stable, right 6th rib inactive, (must be PERJETA avastin) sternum and L1 fruckin'worsen. Drop zometa. ADD Xgeva. Doc says get rads consultant for L1 and possible biopsy of L1. I say, no thanks, doc. Lets see what xgeva brings to the table first. It's summer.
June-August 2013HAPX Herceptin Avastin Perjeta xgeva.
Sept - now - on chemo hold for calming tummy we hope. Markers stable for 2 months.
Nov 2013 - Herceptin-Perjeta-Avastin-Xgeva (collageneous colitis, which explains tummy probs, added Entocort)
December '13 BRAIN MRI ned in da head.
Jan 2014: CONTINUING on HAPX…
FEB 2014 PetCT clinical “impression”: 1. newbie nodule - SUV 1.5 right apical nodule, mildly hypermetabolic “suggestive” of worsening neoplastic lesion. 2. moderate worsening of the sternum – SUV 5.6 from 3.8
3. increasing sclerosis & decreasing activity of L1 met “suggests” mild healing. (SUV 9.4 v 12.1 in May ‘13)
4. scattered lung nodules, up to 5mm in size = stable, no increased activity
5. other small scattered sclerotic lesions, one in right iliac and one in thoracic vertebral body similar in appearance to L1 without PET activity and not clearly pathologic
APRIL 2014 - 6 YRS POST GAMMA ZAP, 7 YRS MBC & 18 YEARS FROM ORIGINAL DX!
October 2014: hold avastin, continue HPX
Feb 2015 Cancer you lost. NEDHEAD 7 years post gamma zap miracle, 8 years ST4, +19 yrs original diagnosis.
Continue HPX. Adding back Avastin
Nov 2015 pet/ct is mixed result. L1 SUV is worse. Continue Herceptin/avastin/xgeva. Might revisit Perjeta for L1. Meantime going for rads consult for L1
December 2015 - brain stable. Continue Herceptin, Perjeta, Avastin and xgeva.
Jan 2016: 5 days, 20 grays, Rads to L1 and continue on HAPX. I’m trying to "save" TDM1 for next line. Hope the rads work to quiet L1. Sciatic pain extraordinaire :((
Markers drop post rads.
2/24/16 HAP plus X - markers are down
SCIATIC PAIN DEAL BREAKER.
3/23/16 Laminectomy w/coflex implant L4/5. NO MORE SCIATIC PAIN!!! Healing.
APRIL 2016 - 9 YRS MBC
July 2016 - continue HAP plus Xgeva.
DEC 2016 - PETCT: mets to sternum, lungs, L1 still about the same in size and PET activity. Markers not bad. Not making changes if I don't need to. Herceptin/Perjeta/Avastin/Xgeva
APRIL 2017 10 YEARS MBC
December 2017 - Progression - gonna switch it up
FEB 2018 - Kadcyla 3 cycles ---->progression :(
MAY30th - bronchoscopy, w/foundation1 - her2 enriched
Aug 27, 2018 - start clinical trial ZW25
JAN 2019 - ZW25 seems to be keeping me stable
APRIL 2019 - ONE DOZEN YEARS LIVING METASTATIC
MAY 2019 - progression back on herceptin add xeloda
JUNE 2019 - "6 mos average survival" LMD & CNS new single brain met - one zap during 5 days true beam SBRT to cord met
10/30/19 - stable brain and cord. progression lungs and bones. washing out. applying for ds8201a w nivolumab. hope they take me.
12/27/19 - begin ds8401a w nivolumab. after 2nd cycle nodes melt away. after 3rd cycle chest scan shows Improvement, brain MRI shows improvement, resolved areas & nothing new. switch to plain ENHERTU. after 4th cycle, PETscan shows mostly resolved or improved results. Markers near normal. I'm stunned but grateful.
10/26/20 - June 2021 Tucatinib/xeloda/herceptin - stable ish.
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:34 AM   #15
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I'm so glad

To have all of you who are willing to share everything so freely. And you are all so inspirational and yes, pioneering. I love that despite the tough time you have experienced miracles, important ones. I needed that encouragement and I'm following your stories closely. I'm also praying and holding you in healing white light...where there is no nausea or diarrhea ALLOWED!
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