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09-07-2009, 10:59 AM
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
I tested negative for both BRCA 1 and 2 in 1999, but I heard there has been more added to the BRCA testing since then. I am considering more genetic testing of various kinds and want to meet with a counselor, so I might ask about that.
Jackie your piece on Jewish migration is very interesting. I always believed there is more to migration than most people think there is. We (the people of the world) are probably more integrated and interconnected than we think we are.
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09-07-2009, 01:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: "Love never fails."
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Yip, anthropologists say we were all coming 'out of Africa'. Here's another link about the subject:
http://www.haruth.com/Asian_J.htm
and this one:
http://www.joyfulnoise.net/JoyChina2.html
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Jackie07
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2
NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa
Advocacy is a passion .. not a pastime - Joe
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09-07-2009, 08:57 PM
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#23
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
I checked on the link to Japanese Jews. Interesting. Did you know there are stories about the messiah in the northern part of Honshu island in the Tohoku part of Japan? Interesting !! Those stories are probably too old to be from the early 1600's-1850's when Christians in Japan were mostly practicing their faith in secret. I think it is quite possible that Chinese jews and other jews could have migrated to Japan and other lands further away. Traveling by sea has probably been done for thosands of years.
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09-09-2009, 05:07 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: "Love never fails."
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Yes, in fact legend has it that the Emperor of Tang Dynasty (500 A.D.) sent a fleet to the East (Japan? Korea?) with 500 young boys and 500 young girls to look for 'everlasting pills' so the emperor could live forever.
Historians suspect these boys and girls stayed there and became part of the nations there.
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Jackie07
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/doctors-letter-patient-newly-diagnosed-cancer.html
http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/MultiMedi...=114&trackID=2
NICU 4.4 LB
Erythema Nodosum 85
Life-long Central Neurocytoma 4x5x6.5 cm 23 hrs 62090 semi-coma 10 d PT OT ST 30 d
3 Infertility tmts 99 > 3 u. fibroids > Pills
CN 3 GKRS 52301
IDC 1.2 cm Her2 +++ ER 5% R. Lmptmy SLNB+1 71703 6 FEC 33 R Tamoxifen
Recc IIB 2.5 cm Bi-L Mast 61407 2/9 nds PET
6 TCH Cellulitis - Lymphedema - compression sleeve & glove
H w x 4 MUGA 51 D, J 49 M
Diastasis recti
Tamoxifen B. scan
Irrtbl bowel 1'09
Colonoscopy 313
BRCA1 V1247I
hptc hemangioma
Vertigo
GI - > yogurt
hysterectomy/oophorectomy 011410
Exemestane 25 mg tab 102912 ~ 101016 stopped due to r. hip/l.thigh pain after long walk
DEXA 1/13
1-2016 lesions in liver largest 9mm & 1.3 cm onco. says not cancer.
3-11 Appendectomy - visually O.K., a lot of puss. Final path result - not cancer.
Start Vitamin D3 and Calcium supplement (600mg x2)
10-10 Stopped Exemestane due to r. hip/l.thigh pain OKed by Onco 11-08-2016
7-23-2018 9 mm groundglass nodule within the right lower lobe with indolent behavior. Due to possible adenocarcinoma, Recommend annual surveilence.
7-10-2019 CT to check lung nodule.
1-10-2020 8mm stable nodule on R Lung, two 6mm new ones on L Lung, a possible lymph node involvement in inter fissule.
"I WANT TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS OLD WOMAN WHO NEVER GETS CALLED AN OLD LADY. I WANT TO GET SHARP EDGED & EARTH COLORED, TILL I FADE AWAY FROM PURE JOY." Irene from Tampa
Advocacy is a passion .. not a pastime - Joe
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09-10-2009, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member
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Posts: 3,142
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
That's interesting.
Maybe doctors, genetic counselors and scientists need to offer the BRCA testing to more people around the globe.
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09-27-2010, 12:06 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Hi,
Posting this WAY late ... but I'm also BRCA1+ and Her2+. Pretty unusual.
-Dara
Jan 07 - Diagnosed w/ 5x7cm tumors, left breast
1/23/07 - Started AC, dose dense x 4
3/07 - Taxol and Herceptin for 12 weeks
discovered BRCA1 in early June
6/19/07 - Bilateral Mastectomy, Oopherectomy
pCR
Herceptin until March 2008
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1/13/07 - Dx Invasive Breast Cancer, 5x7cm, multi-nodule Her2/neu+/ER-/PR-
1/23/07 - Started AC, dd x 4
3/07 - Taxol and Herceptin for 12 weeks
5/07 - Discovered BRCA1+
6/07 - Started Herceptin every 3 weeks until next March
6/19/07 - Bilateral skin-sparing mastectomies, BSO
(two sentinel nodes, seven additional removed), expanders placed
6/25/07 - Report in: Complete response to chemo!!! no cancer cells anywhere ...
8/07 - Decided not to do radiation
10/22/07 - Exchange surgery planned (for implants)
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06-15-2014, 02:36 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Hazleton, Pa
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Hi
I am brca2+ and her2+. I just had a double mastectomy lymph nodes were clear. Stage 1 grade 3 tumor was 7mm. I will be meeting with the oncologist next week to discuss treatment. The surgeon mentioned that because of the size of the tumor I am on the borderline for treatment. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding that statement. I was hoping to avoid chemo.
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06-15-2014, 03:07 PM
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Location: New York
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Hi there -
Thought I'd chime in here because when my younger sister was diagnosed Stage IV Her2+ in 2011, I went to a genetic counselor to be tested. Both my sister and I tested negative for BRCA 1 and 2, and yet in January of this year, I was also diagnosed with Her2+ BC.
I'm sure that as genomic science advances, we'll see many, many more inherited links to BC. Until then, I'm living proof that testing negative is absolutely no guarantee that you're in a low-risk pool.
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Diagnosed 1/24/14
Lumpectomy/SNB 2/10/14
T1cN0M0 Grade 2, 1.2cm
ER+(15%)/PR-/HER2+++
TCHx6 3/12/14 - 6/25/14
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06-16-2014, 09:08 AM
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#29
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Hazleton, Pa
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Hi
I am new to this site. I am BRCA2+, HER2+, PR+. I am now recuperating from a double mastectomy. Tumor was 7mm. I have an appointment with the oncologist next Monday to discuss the possibility of chemo. Everything I have been reading leans towards yes to treatment. Do they just do herceptin or herceptin and something else. Sure would appreciate some feed back. Thanks
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06-16-2014, 02:43 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 645
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Hi - sorry you are on this site but it is a great site with wonderful women and men!
I had Stage 1a bc 14 years ago (her2+,er+, pr-), lumpectomy, rads, anti-estrogen for 10 years (tamoxifen and femara). Herceptin/chemo was not recommended for early stage in 2000. I developed a new primary 12 years later - her2+, er+, pr_. Double mx, TCH x6 plus additional 11 Herceptin infusions, radiation and back on anti-estrogen.
I constantly wonder if chemo and Herceptin would have prevented the 2nd bc - I think so.
With your pathology plus the BRCA2+ - I'd go for whatever you can throw at the cancer now. That way, you know that you have done everything possible to fight the cancer
Best
Janis
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March, 2000: 48, Post menopausal (5 yrs HRT) Left breast, IDC 3mm/DCIS 1.6cm, ER+/PR-/Her2+++, mod differentiated, MIB low, lumpectomy, node neg via SNB, rads=33 Stage 1a
June, 2000: Tamox 4.5 years,Femara for 5 years (end in Jan. 2010)
Sept, 2012: 61, Via mamm, ultrasound, biopsy, right breast, 2.3cm tumor, ER+/PR-/Her2+++, poorly diff, KI67 60-70%
BRCA 1 and 2 negative
October, 2012: Bi Mast with tissue expanders, port placement
Final Path: IDC 2.8cm, DCIS, 1/4 sentinal nodes positive (@#$%). Stage IIB
Nov 29, 2012: Begin TCH/6x/every 3 wks, H for 1 year/every 3 weeks.
March 14, 2013: Finished chemo
April 9, 2013: Begin radiation 28x
May 22, 2013: Finished rads
June 1st, 2013: Started Aromasin for 5 yrs.
July 15, 2013: Switched to Letrozole (Femara). Probably for the rest of my life
October 16, 2013: Exchange surgery
October 31, 2013: Finished Herceptin
December 5, 2013: Port removed
Glad this year is over!
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06-17-2014, 10:13 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Alaska
Posts: 2,018
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Dlaxague, thanks for starting this thread for those who happen to be both HER2 positive and BRCA positive. Did you decide to have the testing done yourself?
My results came back negative but inconclusive too, and Myriad stated on their report to me that if any future connections regarding my results were ever discovered by them, they would notify me. I have never received any further notification from them. Has anyone else here ever received any later notification from Myriad about more recent information in regard to their original results?
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Dx 2002 age 51
bc for granny, aunt, cousin, sister, mother.
ER+/PR+/HER2+++, grade 3
IDC 1.9 cm, some DCIS, Stage 1, Grade 3
Lumpectomy, CAFx6 (no blood boosters), IMRT rads, 1 3/4 yr tamoxifen
Rads necrosis
BRCA 1 & 2 negative
Trials: Early detection OVCA; 2004 low-dose testosterone for bc survivors
Diet: Primarily vegetarian organic; metformin (no diabetes), vitamin D3
Exercise: 7 days a week, 1 hr/day
No trastuzumab, no taxane, no AI
NED
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06-17-2014, 11:22 AM
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#32
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Yes, I did ....can elaborate if you want AA. Cathy
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06-17-2014, 12:03 PM
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#33
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Location: Alaska
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Thanks for the response, Cathy. With me being now 12 years out from dx and tx but with no further info from Myriad, I just wondered whether Myriad actually meant what they said, or not.
I am a participant in breast cancer and ovarian cancer clinical trials that also try to connect the dots while trying to create a better marker for OVCA and bc patients, and hope some good will come of that.
AlaskaAngel
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06-17-2014, 04:23 PM
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
AA, Yes, I was tested in 2003 and was negative for brca1 and a variant for brca2, they said that the variant was most likely not problematic, but hoped to reclassify. In the summer of 2009, while in the parking lot of Home Depot plant shopping, I got a call from them saying they were now certain the variant was harmless and I was brca2 negative. I was so glad for my daughters sake as I know my bc was caused by radiation as an infant to the thymus gland. They also sent a letter to me and my oncologist with those results. Cathy
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06-18-2014, 11:27 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Alaska
Posts: 2,018
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Re: HER2+ and BRCA mutations - 1 or 2?
Cathy, it sounds like they do follow through. I'm glad that you no longer have to be concerned about the possibility for your family members or yourself, and that Myriad gave you that reassurance when they found out.
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Dx 2002 age 51
bc for granny, aunt, cousin, sister, mother.
ER+/PR+/HER2+++, grade 3
IDC 1.9 cm, some DCIS, Stage 1, Grade 3
Lumpectomy, CAFx6 (no blood boosters), IMRT rads, 1 3/4 yr tamoxifen
Rads necrosis
BRCA 1 & 2 negative
Trials: Early detection OVCA; 2004 low-dose testosterone for bc survivors
Diet: Primarily vegetarian organic; metformin (no diabetes), vitamin D3
Exercise: 7 days a week, 1 hr/day
No trastuzumab, no taxane, no AI
NED
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