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Old 11-02-2012, 08:32 PM   #161
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Re: Prayers needed for Sheila

I sent a request too Jen.
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:34 PM   #162
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Jen I pm you. Please help. Your friend, Nancy

Joan where did you get that beautiful baby? I want one too!
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:33 PM   #163
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I'm also waiting to be approved.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:30 PM   #164
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me too, Jen.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:01 PM   #165
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I haven't seen any new requests last time I checked. I will add all requests as I see them.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:55 PM   #166
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Re: Prayers needed for Sheila

Hi Jen - sometimes the requests are a little difficult to find especially if you are using FB on a mobile device or iPad - you need to go to the member section and if you are n administrator it should show all of the requests. I just checked the page and it says my request is still pending. :-)
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:36 PM   #167
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For those of us not on Facebook, could someone keep us in the loop? Thanks kindly...
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:28 PM   #168
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I am not an administrator of the group. I have invited people from my FB list that is the only way I know how to do it. A few times I saw requests on the page to be added so I added them. I don't have any new news to report about Mom. I am however very disappointed in her Dr for not doing SOMETHING, ANYTHING. (To my knowledge) Mom's cancer isn't in her internal organs. I read signatures of members on here whose cancer HAS spread to brain, liver, etc.. who are STILL in tx. Why haven't YOUR doctors given up on you like it seems to me Mom's Dr has obviously given up on her. I hope I NEVER meet this doctor I wish the Dr Mom had before wasn't retired she at least seemed to want to SAVE my Mom.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:35 PM   #169
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Jen, I am so sorry that you and your family are going through this with your dear Mom.

Is there another oncologist on the team, or board, that you could please your Mom's case to?

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Old 11-03-2012, 10:04 PM   #170
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Why can't your mom switch Doctors?

Even if she placed herself in hospice, one is always allowed to change one's mind.

Has your mother been disheartened? It may be an effect of medication.
Is she now being overmedicated? Is she "herself"?

Some (very few) here have relatively "happily" given up. Sheila always struck me as a fighter except when faced with the decision as to whether/how to radiate her brachial plexus, when I felt she didn't explore her options as vigorously as I felt she should have (but who am I to have an opinion, really!)
Since I am not qualified to give advice I never expressed mine regarding that choice, but kept posting more literature to review/ questions to raise

I wish her and you the best. Let us know if there is anything any of us can do eg. recommend another oncologist close to you, give info re getting into/out of hospice, etc
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:23 AM   #171
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There seems to be one administrator for the group. Unfortunately, she has made herself impossible to contact (you can subscribe to her personal page but it's not possible to write on her page or send her a message unless you're already a friend). I suspect that she is seeing many requests from people she doesn't know, and she's ignoring them (and with all the "fake" people on FB, this is a smart choice).

I'm sure that an existing group member is able to contact the administrator, so if Jen or someone who has already been added contacts her and lets her know about this thread, it might help speed approvals for those of us who have sent a request.
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:32 AM   #172
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If you would like to give me your FB names in PM I can contact the administrator for you to get you in the group.
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:43 AM   #173
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Here is the message I sent to the person who created the page..

Hi Rena I know there are gals from a website called her2support.org that my Mother Sheila has belonged to for many years that would like to be added to your FB page prayers for Sheila they aren't on my FB list so I am unable to invite/and or add them to the group. I know many of them have found your page Prayers for Sheila Rawlins on FB and are waiting to be added. I don't see the requests to be added so I thought since you started the page maybe you could add them also.

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Old 11-04-2012, 07:28 AM   #174
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No need to clog your inbox. If my stalkers are looking for me, they'll find me no matter what I do.

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Old 11-04-2012, 08:21 AM   #175
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Re: Prayers needed for Sheila

I've only got 102 'friends' on my FB - several of them are friend's friends whom I'd known nothing about... But I don't have any of my Her2support group members on my friend's list.

It's kind of nice to have my 'social' life [limited friends allow me to write more 'personally'] and my 'support group' life separated. I'd prefer to read the updates on Sheila here. Sheila's friend is entitled to her own privacy setting and 'friends' choice. She doesn't need to 'invite' bunch strangers even if we consider ourselves Sheila's 'sisters'.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:29 AM   #176
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It's a group. You add the group, not a ton of people. You can also adjust your settings so that you receive no notifications and so group news stays out of your feed. (In other words, you can read group news only on the group's page, if that's what you want.)

This is FB's answer to message forums. For some purposes (like this one), it's probably superior to standard message board format. For others, not so much.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:29 PM   #177
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You know, Jen, sometimes it seems those who have fought the good fight for a protracted period of time come to a point of resignation (?), acceptance(?), weariness(?). I am not certain about this, but I believe there comes a fatigue with the whole treatment rat race. Your mom is one heck of a fighter. This cannot be disputed. However, it seems that with humans as well as animals there is an innate sense of when the need to rest and be at peace has arrived. Perhaps your mother is there now. Maybe she instinctively knows her physician has suggested a fair and wise choice?

Like Lani, I want to shout across the miles begging your mom to battle on. It was all I could do not to shriek for Brenda Hutchinson's family to keep on fighting with her....NO! Not hospice! Not for Brenda! Wake up, Brenda, wake up! But they knew it was time to let go. The race was run.

It is the letting go that is so hard for us. Selfishly we want them to stay HERE, right here with us....forever, but we know there are no forevers in this life. I do believe there is another life that is eternal. You'll see you mother again in that life.

It is brave of you to help your mom walk out this last walk. I can tell you it is a terribly difficult thing to do. I know you will rise to the occasion and manage it all beautifully.
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:32 PM   #178
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My comments came not from a personal knowledge of Sheila...I had none.. but from your exasperation which I assumed was shared with your mom at her new
doctor not making any suggestions.

Many Stage IVs offer themselves as trial participants in Stage I trials which have virtually no hope of helping them...feeling by doing so they are at least helping the next person to come along. When there are clear reasons and evidence for the drug to be particularly effective, sometimes it proves effective and provides additional quality time.

If your mom was up to it AND WANTED TO ie, is not resigned to giving up/in , and if it were available, I found the following(just published by the Journal of the NCI) There is every evidence that the same dosage which is tolerated well and given to thousands if not millions daily around the world may prove effective :


Selective inhibition of Her2-Positive Breast cancer cells by the HiV Protease inhibitor Nelfinavir
Joong Sup Shim, Rajini Rao, Kristin Beebe, Len Neckers, Inkyu Han, Rita Nahta, Jun O. Liu
Manuscript received July 22, 2011; revised August 8, 2012; accepted August 16, 2012.
Correspondence to: Jun O. Liu, PhD, Department of Pharmacology and Molecular Sciences, Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, 725 N Wolfe St, Hunterian Building 516, Baltimore, MD 21205 (e-mail: joliu@jhu.edu).
Background Human epidermal growth factor receptor 2 (HER2)–positive breast cancer is highly aggressive and has higher risk of recurrence than HER2-negative cancer. With few treatment options available, new drug targets specific for HER2-positive breast cancer are needed.
Methods We conducted a pharmacological profiling of seven genotypically distinct breast cancer cell lines using a subset of inhibitors of breast cancer cells from a screen of the Johns Hopkins Drug Library.To identify molecular targets of nelfinavir, identified in the screen as a selective inhibitor of HER2-positive cells, we conducted a genome-wide screen of a haploinsufficiency yeast mutant collection. We evaluated antitumor activity of nelfinavir with xeno- grafts in athymic nude mouse models (n = 4–6 per group) of human breast cancer and repeated mixed-effects regression analysis. All statistical tests were two-sided.
Results Pharmacological profiling showed that nelfinavir, an anti-HIV drug, selectively inhibited the growth of HER2- positive breast cancer cells in vitro. A genome-wide screening of haploinsufficiency yeast mutants revealed that nelfinavir inhibited heat shock protein 90 (HSP90) function. Further characterization using proteolytic footprinting experiments indicated that nelfinavir inhibited HSP90 in breast cancer cells through a novel mechanism. In vivo, nelfinavir selectively inhibited the growth of HER2-positive breast cancer cells (tumor volume index of HCC1954 cells on day 29, vehicle vs nelfinavir, mean = 14.42 vs 5.16, difference = 9.25, 95% confidence interval [CI] = 5.93 to 12.56, P < .001; tumor volume index of BT474 cells on day 26, vehicle vs nelfinavir, mean = 2.21 vs 0.90, dif- ference = 1.31, 95% CI = 0.83 to 1.78, P < .001). Moreover, nelfinavir inhibited the growth of trastuzumab- and/or lapatinib-resistant, HER2-positive breast cancer cells in vitro at clinically achievable concentrations.
Conclusion Nelfinavir was found to be a new class of HSP90 inhibitor and can be brought to HER2-breast cancer treatment trials with the same dosage regimen as that used among HIV patients.
J Natl Cancer Inst 2012;104:1576–1590

Nelfinavir is a first-generation hIV protease inhibitor approved by the uS Food and Drug Administration for an oral dose regimin of 750mg three times daily for AIDS patients. however, it was modified to a regimen of 1250mg twice daily, as recommended
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by uS Food and Drug Administration in 1999. the efficacy of nelfinavir was proven to be equal in both regimens in a large, ran- domized trial (46). extensive pharmacokinetics studies have shown that nelfinavir has an average peak plasma level of 8–10 μm, which is approximately twice as high as its IC50 for the her2-positive breast cancer cell proliferation (3–6 μm), suggesting that it may be effective in breast cancer patients with the current dosage regimen. With a relatively low toxicity profile and much available informa- tion on its drug–drug interactions and on pharmacokinetics, nelfi- navir is ready for clinical testing in her2 breast cancer patients. In conclusion, the discovery of her2 selective inhibition of breast cancer cells by nelfinavir and the elucidation of its unique mode of action through binding to a new site on hSP90 have important implications in the development of nelfinavir and its analogs as new anticancer agents.

I do not know Sheila but I appreciate her decision to end active treatment and understand it IF INDEED it was made despite being depressed by her new physicians' approach and with knowledge and understanding of whether or not other meaningful options remained.

I provide the following reference to a recent op ed in the NYT on a different but related matter for you to consider. Pass any/all or none of this on to Sheila as you see fit.


NEXT week, voters in Massachusetts will decide whether to adopt an assisted-suicide law. As a good pro-choice liberal, I ought to support the effort. But as a lifelong disabled person, I cannot.




There are solid arguments in favor. No one will be coerced into taking a poison pill, supporters insist. The “right to die” will apply only to those with six months to live or less. Doctors will take into account the possibility of depression. There is no slippery slope.

Fair enough, but I remain skeptical. There’s been scant evidence of abuse so far in Oregon, Washington and Montana, the three states where physician-assisted death is already legal, but abuse — whether spousal, child or elder — is notoriously underreported, and evidence is difficult to come by. What’s more, Massachusetts registered nearly 20,000 cases of elder abuse in 2010 alone.

My problem, ultimately, is this: I’ve lived so close to death for so long that I know how thin and porous the border between coercion and free choice is, how easy it is for someone to inadvertently influence you to feel devalued and hopeless — to pressure you ever so slightly but decidedly into being “reasonable,” to unburdening others, to “letting go.”

Perhaps, as advocates contend, you can’t understand why anyone would push for assisted-suicide legislation until you’ve seen a loved one suffer. But you also can’t truly conceive of the many subtle forces — invariably well meaning, kindhearted, even gentle, yet as persuasive as a tsunami — that emerge when your physical autonomy is hopelessly compromised.

I was born with a congenital neuromuscular weakness called spinal muscular atrophy. I’ve never walked or stood or had much use of my hands. Roughly half the babies who exhibit symptoms as I did don’t live past age 2. Not only did I survive, but the progression of my disease slowed dramatically when I was about 6 years old, astounding doctors. Today, at nearly 50, I’m a husband, father, journalist and author.

Yet I’m more fragile now than I was in infancy. No longer able to hold a pencil, I’m writing this with a voice-controlled computer. Every swallow of food, sometimes every breath, can become a battle. And a few years ago, when a surgical blunder put me into a coma from septic shock, the doctors seriously questioned whether it was worth trying to extend my life. My existence seemed pretty tenuous anyway, they figured. They didn’t know about my family, my career, my aspirations.

Fortunately, they asked my wife, who knows exactly how I feel. She convinced them to proceed “full code,” as she’s learned to say, to keep me alive using any and all means necessary.

From this I learned how easy it is to be perceived as someone whose quality of life is untenable, even or perhaps especially by doctors. Indeed, I hear it from them all the time — “How have you survived so long? Wow, you must put up with a lot!” — even during routine office visits, when all I’ve asked for is an antibiotic for a sinus infection. Strangers don’t treat me this way, but doctors feel entitled to render judgments and voice their opinions. To them, I suppose, I must represent a failure of their profession, which is shortsighted. I am more than my diagnosis and my prognosis.

This is but one of many invisible forces of coercion. Others include that certain look of exhaustion in a loved one’s eyes, or the way nurses and friends sigh in your presence while you’re zoned out in a hospital bed. All these can cast a dangerous cloud of depression upon even the most cheery of optimists, a situation clinicians might misread since, to them, it seems perfectly rational.

And in a sense, it is rational, given the dearth of alternatives. If nobody wants you at the party, why should you stay? Advocates of Death With Dignity laws who say that patients themselves should decide whether to live or die are fantasizing. Who chooses suicide in a vacuum? We are inexorably affected by our immediate environment. The deck is stacked.

Yes, that may sound paranoid. After all, the Massachusetts proposal calls for the lethal dose to be “self-administered,” which it defines as the “patient’s act of ingesting.” You might wonder how that would apply to those who can’t feed themselves — people like me. But as I understand the legislation, there is nothing to prevent the patient from designating just about anyone to feed them the poison pill. Indeed, there is no requirement for oversight of the ingestion at all; no one has to witness how and when the lethal drug is given. Which, to my mind, leaves even more room for abuse.

To be sure, there are noble intentions behind the “assisted death” proposals, but I can’t help wondering why we’re in such a hurry to ensure the right to die before we’ve done all we can to ensure that those of us with severe, untreatable, life-threatening conditions are given the same open-hearted welcome, the same open-minded respect and the same open-ended opportunities due everyone else.

Ben Mattlin is a freelance journalist and the author of “Miracle Boy Grows Up: How the Disability Rights Revolution Saved My Sanity.”

A version of this op-ed appeared in print on November 1, 2012, on page A31 of the New York edition with the headline: Suicide by Choice? Not So Fast.
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:07 PM   #179
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My understanding was that Sheila wants treatment but is unable to have treatment because of her low platelet count.

Is she being treated for the low platelets, Jen?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:00 PM   #180
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Thanks Lani for the info. Rhondalea no she isn't and evidentally they check your counts when you are in hospice.
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