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Old 02-15-2009, 07:44 AM   #1
CLTann
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For those getting bone metastasis, please share your initial symptoms.

I had some aches around various parts of my body. Many of us always began to think the worst. Some of the aches go away when I lie down or start walking. The worst posture is long time sitting. From what I read, actual bone metastasis does not get relief no matter what posture you take and the pain is worse at night in bed. Would any of you who had the unfortunate experience share with me how you first felt before bone scan confirmation? I really appreciate your inputs and hope your treatment has been successful and you are doing well. Thanks in advance.
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Stage 1 dx Sept 05
ER/PR positive HER2 +++ Grade 3
Invasive carcinoma 1 cm, no node involvement
Mastec Sept 05
Annual scans all negative, Oct 06
Postmenopause. Arimidex only since Sept 06, bone or muscle ache after 3 month
Off Arimidex, change to Femara 1/12-07, ache stopped
Sept 07 all tests negative, pass 2 year mark
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:51 PM   #2
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The only thing I have to say is maybe the Femara is making you have those symptoms. Please google femara side effects. I have a hard time getting out of bed and walking in the morning due to pain in ankles or knees...I feel like a 90 yr old women until I get up and moving around. Same goes for trying to get up and moving after sitting for a period of time or standing. I also get joint pain in the hands and sometimes numbness. I did start using the treadmill and that seems to help along with Aleve every now and then to help with the pain and stiffness. This all started after talking the Femara and I have been on it for over a year and will continue to take it because of being erpr+.
Good thoughts that it is nothing but the side affects of the medication..especially if your scans are negative.
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Old 02-15-2009, 02:18 PM   #3
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Ann,
Since you are on the AI, do you take any form of bone health drugs, such as Actonel or Boniva?

I too experience pain in my hip area after sitting too long or on long drive. (Every since starting on the AI's)
What has offered me great help is taking CosaminDS,
and exercise, especially walking.

I was finding the hip pain in the middle of the night in bed. That stopped when I added the Cosamin.

The bone ache is 99% from the AI.
Wishing you All the best.
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Old 02-15-2009, 04:17 PM   #4
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Wink For those getting bone metastasis please share your initial symptoms

The calcium levels in my cousin's blood chemistry blood tests (cmp) were elevated. I think the calcium in the bones start to go into the blood stream when a person has bone mets. Maybe you would like to ask your doc to check your calcium levels and/or order a scan.
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Old 02-17-2009, 09:24 AM   #5
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Ruth Ann, Jean and Elaine,

Thank you so much for quickly responding to my problem. I immediately took glucosame and now this is the third day. The improvement has been dramatic. My usual pain after sitting for a while is basically gone. Your diagnosis of the pain being the side effect of Femrara is sound and credible. Thank you again.
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Stage 1 dx Sept 05
ER/PR positive HER2 +++ Grade 3
Invasive carcinoma 1 cm, no node involvement
Mastec Sept 05
Annual scans all negative, Oct 06
Postmenopause. Arimidex only since Sept 06, bone or muscle ache after 3 month
Off Arimidex, change to Femara 1/12-07, ache stopped
Sept 07 all tests negative, pass 2 year mark
Feb 08 continue doing well.
Sep 09 four year NED still on Femara.
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:13 PM   #6
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Your pain sounds like mine. Mine is arthritis as well as remnants of disc trouble. Had a disc removed 20 years ago. A woman in my support group has bone mets. She got no relief lying still in bed. Pain kept her awake at night.
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:38 PM   #7
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Cool Bone Pain here too

I had the flu in early December with the accompanying bone aches. The flu went away the bone aches did not. My oncologist was adament it was not cancer or herceptin related. However, the nighttime aches became worse and were accompanied by the cancer demons. I was very afraid. I tried tylenol and darvocet...no relief. My husband finally demanded a bone scan. It was done on February 9 and came back completely clean!! My mind is now at rest...but my bones still ache.
Thanks to all who post on here. You are a wonderful source of support.
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:48 PM   #8
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ClTann
So glad you are already seeing improvementby taking
glucosame.

All good wishes,
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Node Neg. (Sentinel node)
ER+ 90% / PR-, Her2+++ by FISH
Ki-67 40%
Arimidex 5/05
Radiation 32 trt, 5/30/05
Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
TOPO 11 neg. 4/06
Stopped Arimidex 5/06
TCH 5/06, 6 treatments
Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
9/06 Completed chemo
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