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Old 02-17-2011, 10:38 PM   #1
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OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

My father called me yesterday to let me know his bladder cancer has recurred. He's beaten it twice, in 1994 and 2001, and both times he caught it early and was able to treat it with local therapy.

Now unfortunately his case is more serious and advanced. He's doing a biopsy tomorrow to confirm staging and so on, but the ultrasound showed an infiltrating mass that has already invaded the fat/muscle outside of the bladder.

He told me that the doctors advised him to do a complete cystectomy (full bladder removal) with a neo-bladder reconstruction (bladder routed out of the small intestine). I'm very distressed about this news, especially since my father is almost 74 and lives back home in Brazil.

If anyone of you has direct experience with a surgery of this type, I'd love to hear from you. I don't know if he'll need to do chemo after the surgery (or even before) but he hasn't even seen an oncologist yet. In any case, any help/suggestions/tip on going through the surgery will be very much appreciated.

Thanks!!
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Old 02-18-2011, 05:00 AM   #2
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

Wish I had wonderful advice....I am just sorry your father has had a reoccurrence. I do have a family member who has been successfully treated for bladder cancer, but did not have the complete removal. My prayers and thoughts will be with you!
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Old 02-18-2011, 06:09 AM   #3
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

We have a friend who had this surgery and reconstruction at Cleveland Clinic almost 8 years ago. She is doing great now. So sorry this has happened to your family but there is much hope for a successful treatment.
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Old 02-19-2011, 07:10 AM   #4
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

My Dad is a 22 year bladder cancer survivor...one of the lucky ones that the cancer was encapsulated like an egg, removed surgically, then chemo was injected directly into the bladder for about 1 year. TWO years ago, my uncle was diagnosed. His was much more advanced, had his bladder removed and reconstructed , went through several chemo treatments, but now is doing very well. He was treated at a large hospital in Indianapolis. THey have come a long way in the treatment of even advanced bladder cancer. Keeping your Dad in my prayers.
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Old 02-19-2011, 02:32 PM   #5
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

I'm sorry about your Dads recurrance, my friend and her husband both had bladder cancer but it was found very early so have no personal advice to give you but hope for a sucessful surgery and quick recovery.
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Old 02-19-2011, 03:25 PM   #6
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

My father also had bladder cancer just last summer. His was caught early and has been successfully treated. He has an excellent doctor at the University of Tennessee Medical center, where they also do the removal and reconstruction surgery.
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Old 02-19-2011, 05:39 PM   #7
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

Thanks, ladies for all your support!!! My father has his biopsy yesterday and is now recovering fine at home. If anyone of you would happen to know the chemo drugs used
to treat the more advanced cases, please let me know. I'm trying to gather
as much info as I can at this point.

Thanks!!

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Diagnosed on 02/18/09 at 38 with a huge 12x10 cm tumor, after a 6 month delay. Told I was too young and had no risk factors. Found swollen node during breastfeeding.
March-August 09: neo-adjuvant chemo, part of a trial at Stanford (4 DD A/C, 4 Taxotere with daily Tykerb), loading dose of Herceptin
08/12/09 - bye bye boobies (bilateral mastectomy)
08/24/09 - path report shows 100 % success in breast tissue (no cancer there, yay!), 98 % success in lymphatic invasion, and even though 11/13 nodes were still positive, > 95 % of the tumor in them was killed. Hoping for the best!
September-October 09: rads with daily Xeloda
02/25/10 - Cholecystectomy
05/27/10 - Bone scan clear
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07/27/10 - Done with Herceptin!
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Old 02-20-2011, 06:29 AM   #8
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

Bejuce...I will make a few calls today and get some answers on the chemo used.
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3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:01 AM   #9
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

Bejuice,

Here's a recent article that summarizes the treatment of bladder cancer:

Curr Oncol. 2011 Jan;18(1):e25-e34.
First- and second-line therapy for metastatic urothelial carcinoma of the bladder.

Yafi FA, North S, Kassouf W.
Department of Surgery (Urology), McGill University, Montreal, QC.
Abstract

Urothelial cancer of the bladder is the 4th most common malignancy in American men and the 9th most common in women. Although it is a chemosensitive disease, advanced bladder cancer seems to have reached a plateau with regard to median survival of patients. Standard first-line therapy remains gemcitabine plus cisplatin (gc) or methotrexate, vinblastine, doxorubicin, and cisplatin (mvac). In patients deemed unfit to receive cisplatin, gemcitabine plus carboplatin or gemcitabine plus paclitaxel can be considered. To date, no standard therapy has been established for patients who recur or are refractory to first-line therapy. Second-line vinflunine, by way of superiority over best supportive care, has shown promise in a phase iii trial. Cisplatin-based therapy (mvac or gc) can also be offered to patients previously treated with cisplatin, especially if they responded previously and are considered platinum-sensitive. Novel targeted therapies are sorely needed to further improve the delivery and efficacy of chemotherapy.
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:54 AM   #10
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

Bejuice,
Sorry to hear the news of your Dad. I have a friend whose husband was dx. with bladder cancer and he had the surgery and he is doing great. Sheila's post is very encouraging and as she said there has been great strides in this type of cancer. I send you prayers for strength and hugs of support.

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Old 02-22-2011, 07:47 PM   #11
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

Marcia
Just got ahold of my uncle. After the bladder was successfully removed and he healed, he was given Gemzar and Carboplatin 3 weeks on and one off...his scans have been clean ever since....amazing for advanced bladder cancer! Hoping your Dad does amazing too! Keeping him in my thoughts and prayers!
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Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:41 PM   #12
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Re: OT - anyone with experience with bladder cancer?

Thank you so much, Sheila!!! It means the world to me to have all this support here!
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Diagnosed on 02/18/09 at 38 with a huge 12x10 cm tumor, after a 6 month delay. Told I was too young and had no risk factors. Found swollen node during breastfeeding.
March-August 09: neo-adjuvant chemo, part of a trial at Stanford (4 DD A/C, 4 Taxotere with daily Tykerb), loading dose of Herceptin
08/12/09 - bye bye boobies (bilateral mastectomy)
08/24/09 - path report shows 100 % success in breast tissue (no cancer there, yay!), 98 % success in lymphatic invasion, and even though 11/13 nodes were still positive, > 95 % of the tumor in them was killed. Hoping for the best!
September-October 09: rads with daily Xeloda
02/25/10 - Cholecystectomy
05/27/10 - Bone scan clear
06/14/10 - CT scan clear, ovarian cyst found
07/27/10 - Done with Herceptin!
02/15/11 - MVA-BN HER-2 vaccine trial
03/15/11 - First CA 15-3: 12.7 and normal, yay!
10/01/11 - Bone scan and CT scan clear, fatty liver found
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