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10-11-2010, 12:52 AM
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Asparagus
hi
I got a mail from one of the other grops of which I ama member referring to aposting that Asparagus os good for breast cancer
the foofforbrestcancer.com site which gives a recommended and avoid list is silent on Asparagus
What is the view on Asparagus
Thanks
PBK
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huband of Hema
Metstatic Breast Cancer Stage 4
Left breast cauliflower 25x20cm
ossousmetstatis in vertbrae secondaries L4=L5secondary
nodules in both liver lobes secondary
Diagnosed 10th March 2010
ER/PR-ve
Her 2 neu +++
Taxotrne Zylotec started 16th March
Herceptin added 5th April.9th Herceptin over on 20th Sep '10.Started on Tykerb and Xeloda on 22nd Oct2010TYKERB 4 TAB A DAY XELODA 4 TAB A DAY ONE WEEK ON ONE WEEK OFFZoletrust infusion every 4 months.Lesion in Brain 3D CRT Radiation started on 1st Feb'12 for 20 days ,5 days a week for 4 weeks.Devloped a small lump in breast.Xeloda stopped from 11th April '12.On Taxol.After 3 cycles of Taxol Taxol stopped.Back to Xeloda regime from 3rd July
Herceptin started again on 27th Dec 2012.Xeloda stopped Navelbin added on 7th February 2013.Now on Tykerb Herceptin and Navelbin
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10-11-2010, 10:06 AM
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Re: Asparagus
I heard on our local radio consumer awareness boadcast that the asperagus cure is a HOAX.
Totally made up.
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MY STORY SO FAR ~~~~
Found suspicious lump 9/2000
Lumpectomy, then node dissection and port placement
Stage IIB, 8 pos nodes of 18, Grade 3, ER & PR -
Adriamycin 12 weekly, taxotere 4 rounds
36 rads - very little burning
3 mos after rads liver full of tumors, Stage IV Jan 2002, one spot on sternum
Weekly Taxol, Navelbine, Herceptin for 27 rounds to NED!
2003 & 2004 no active disease - 3 weekly Herceptin + Zometa
Jan 2005 two mets to brain - Gamma Knife on Jan 18
All clear until treated cerebellum spot showing activity on Jan 2006 brain MRI & brain PET
Brain surgery on Feb 9, 2006 - no cancer, 100% radiation necrosis - tumor was still dying
Continue as NED while on Herceptin & quarterly Zometa
Fall-2006 - off Zometa - watching one small brain spot (scar?)
2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava
2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec.
Dec 2008 - stop Herceptin - Vaccine Trial at U of W begun in Oct. of 2011
STILL NED everywhere in Feb 2014 - on wing & prayer
7/14 - Started twice yearly Zometa for my bones
Jan. 2015 checkup still shows NED
2015 Neuropathy in feet - otherwise all OK - still NED.
Same news for 2016 and all of 2017.
Nov of 2017 - had small skin cancer removed from my face. Will have Zometa end of Jan. 2018.
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10-11-2010, 10:23 AM
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Re: Asparagus
I don't know about any asparagus cures, but I think it is a very healthy vegetable. It is also pretty low on the gycemic index (low glucose), so it shouldn't spike blood sugar. That is good news for cancer patients.
It is one of the vegetables recommended by my naturopathic physician. Luckily it is one of my favorite vegetables too !!
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10-11-2010, 10:41 AM
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Re: Asparagus
In Chinese medicine, asparagus is considered 'cold' which means reducing poison/waste product in our system and has the effect on smooth skin and better energy. (I believe there are people using fresh juice for their 'facial' procedure) It is supposed to have the effect of lowering blood pressure.
The packaged asparagus juice has been popular in Taiwan for over 30 years.
My Mother stir fried asparagus with pork strips whenever it was in season. Sometimes they are simply steamed and people eat it with Mayonaise like a salad.
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10-12-2010, 02:10 AM
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Re: Asparagus
A little more infp from a friend.Quote I went and tried snope.It gives mixed resulte.But overall positive.End quote
Any way whther it is a curative or not it is a good food
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huband of Hema
Metstatic Breast Cancer Stage 4
Left breast cauliflower 25x20cm
ossousmetstatis in vertbrae secondaries L4=L5secondary
nodules in both liver lobes secondary
Diagnosed 10th March 2010
ER/PR-ve
Her 2 neu +++
Taxotrne Zylotec started 16th March
Herceptin added 5th April.9th Herceptin over on 20th Sep '10.Started on Tykerb and Xeloda on 22nd Oct2010TYKERB 4 TAB A DAY XELODA 4 TAB A DAY ONE WEEK ON ONE WEEK OFFZoletrust infusion every 4 months.Lesion in Brain 3D CRT Radiation started on 1st Feb'12 for 20 days ,5 days a week for 4 weeks.Devloped a small lump in breast.Xeloda stopped from 11th April '12.On Taxol.After 3 cycles of Taxol Taxol stopped.Back to Xeloda regime from 3rd July
Herceptin started again on 27th Dec 2012.Xeloda stopped Navelbin added on 7th February 2013.Now on Tykerb Herceptin and Navelbin
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10-12-2010, 01:09 PM
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Re: Asparagus
I also read that using asparagus as a "cure" is a hoax, but, my Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine suggests consuming asparagus daily as it is a great antioxidant and clears out toxins from the system.
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10-13-2010, 08:40 AM
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Re: Asparagus
The asparagus "cure" is a hoax but it doesn't mean it isn't a good food. Asparagus is a rich source of many phytochemicals which can be protective against cancer and important for a healthy immune system, like many other fruits and vegetables. I recommend including it in the diet as desired with a variety of other plant based foods.
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10-13-2010, 01:09 PM
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Re: Asparagus
Asparagus makes you pee green, and for that reason alone should be consumed as often as possible for amusement value alone. I'm just saying.......
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ER-/PR-/HER2 Neu+++ 2.1 cm x .9 cm spicluted tumor with three fingers, Stage 2B
Sentinal node biopsy and lymph node removal with 3/18 positive in October 2007
4 TAC infusions
lumpectomy March 2008, bad margins
Re-excision on June 3rd, 2008 with clean margins
Fitted for compression sleeve July 16, 2008
Started the first of two TCH infusions August 14, 2008
Done with chemo and now a member of the blue dot club 9/17/08
Starting radiation October 1, 2008
life is still on hold
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10-13-2010, 07:58 PM
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Re: Asparagus
Did you know that it is a recessive gene that causes your pee to smell funny and turn a greenish yellow when having consumed asparagus? If you chomp down some Junior Asparagus-type veggies and do not have smelly urine, then you lack the gene.
I'm just adding to what Lee is sayin'......
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Dx'd w/multifocal DCIS/IDS 3/08
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4 AC, 4 TH finished 9/08
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10-16-2010, 07:23 PM
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Re: Asparagus
I found frozen asparagus today and it was a lot more economical than fresh. So when its not in season . . .
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10-16-2010, 09:17 PM
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Re: Asparagus
I guess men are more aware of how things affect their pee! Other veggies are more to my liking ...
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"When I hear music, I fear no danger. I am invulnerable. I see no foe. I am related to the earliest times, and to the latest." H.D. Thoreau
Live in the moment.
MY STORY SO FAR ~~~~
Found suspicious lump 9/2000
Lumpectomy, then node dissection and port placement
Stage IIB, 8 pos nodes of 18, Grade 3, ER & PR -
Adriamycin 12 weekly, taxotere 4 rounds
36 rads - very little burning
3 mos after rads liver full of tumors, Stage IV Jan 2002, one spot on sternum
Weekly Taxol, Navelbine, Herceptin for 27 rounds to NED!
2003 & 2004 no active disease - 3 weekly Herceptin + Zometa
Jan 2005 two mets to brain - Gamma Knife on Jan 18
All clear until treated cerebellum spot showing activity on Jan 2006 brain MRI & brain PET
Brain surgery on Feb 9, 2006 - no cancer, 100% radiation necrosis - tumor was still dying
Continue as NED while on Herceptin & quarterly Zometa
Fall-2006 - off Zometa - watching one small brain spot (scar?)
2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava
2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec.
Dec 2008 - stop Herceptin - Vaccine Trial at U of W begun in Oct. of 2011
STILL NED everywhere in Feb 2014 - on wing & prayer
7/14 - Started twice yearly Zometa for my bones
Jan. 2015 checkup still shows NED
2015 Neuropathy in feet - otherwise all OK - still NED.
Same news for 2016 and all of 2017.
Nov of 2017 - had small skin cancer removed from my face. Will have Zometa end of Jan. 2018.
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10-17-2010, 10:44 AM
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Re: Asparagus
Maybe the change in the color only affects men. I love asparagus and never had that problem. I eat a good amount of cooked asparagus and as a snack with other veggie sticks. Both my grandfathers had small farms. We only got candy at Easter when I was a child, but we were allowed to go get any kind of vegetable or fruit we wanted from the field, rinse it under the hose and eat it raw. I still eat raw veggies.
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10-17-2010, 12:04 PM
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Re: Asparagus
Well, everyone in my family has smelly urine after eating asparagus (which we eat 1-2 days a week).
I used to not be bothered by the smelly urine but it does bother me now but I still eat them. I am the grocery shopper in my family and I buy them at least once a week (fresh) but plan on it since they go bad quickly (a couple of days) and they are expensive so we eat them quick. They are not like broccoli that can keep awhile in the frig.
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Found lump via BSE
Diagnosed 8/04 at age 45
1.9cm tumor, ER+PR-, Her2 3+(rt side)
2 micromets to sentinel node
Stage 2A
left 3mm DCIS - low grade ER+PR+Her2 neg
lumpectomies 9/7/04
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Started Herceptin 4 months after last Taxol due to
trial results and 2005 ASCO meeting & recommendations
Oophorectomy 8/05
Started Arimidex 9/05
Finished Herceptin (16 months) 9/06
Arimidex Only
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