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Old 04-29-2006, 03:21 PM   #1
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Take substances that stimulate the immune system with herceptin?

Source: Ohio State University

Posted: January 6, 2006



Immune Substances May Help Antibody-based Drugs Fight Cancer

A new study suggests that antibody-based cancer drugs might help patients more if they are given with substances that stimulate the immune system.


This new study is the first to indicate that the drug trastuzumab, also known as Herceptin, may work better when it is followed by injections of interleukin (IL) 2 or IL-12. Both substances trigger the activity of immune cells known as natural killer (NK) cells.
The research, by scientists at the Ohio State University Comprehensive Cancer Center – Arthur G. James Cancer Hospital and Richard J. Solove Research Institute, is published in the Jan. 1 issue of the journal Cancer Research.

The drug trastuzumab consists of an antibody that targets the protein HER2, which is present on cancer cells of many breast tumors. NK cells are the body's first line of defense against many infections, and they also attack tumor cells.

NK cells rush into action when they encounter bacteria or other foreign agents in the body that are coated with antibodies, large proteins released by immune cells in response to the presence of foreign material in the body.

Trastuzumab is used to treat advanced breast cancer cases that over-produce the HER2 protein. The drug coats the tumor cells with antibodies, but it is unclear exactly what happens next.

Presently, researchers believe that when the trastuzumab antibodies join with the HER2 protein, they trigger changes within the tumor cells that cause the cells to die or to grow more slowly. In this scenario, the immune system plays a relatively minor role in slowing the tumor's growth.

“But our results show that the immune system really can play an important role in this therapy and that the outcome of patients treated with antibody-based drugs might be improved by activating the patient's immune system with agents such as IL-12,” says principal investigator William E. Carson, III, associate professor of surgery and director for clinical research at the OSU Comprehensive Cancer Center.

First author Julie M. Roda, a graduate research associate in Carson 's laboratory, explained why this is so.

“The findings suggest that using trastuzumab and the IL-12 together makes the body think an infection is under way, and this activates cells of the immune system to eliminate tumor cells in the same way they would eliminate an infection,” says Roda.

The investigators found that the combination of antibody-coated cells and IL-2 or IL-12 causes the NK cells to release substances that attract more potent immune cells – mainly killer T cells – thereby trigging a larger and more effective immune response against the tumor.

“Trastuzumab was not designed to mimic an infectious condition, but we think that's exactly what is happening,” Roda says.

Carson, Roda and their colleagues came to their conclusions following several types of experiments.

For example, the researchers added human NK cells and IL-2 or IL-12 to cultures of breast-cancer cells with HER2 and coated with trastuzumab antibodies. In response, the NK cells produced a range of substances (known as cytokines and chemokines) known to attract killer T cells to sites of infection. When the experiment was repeated using cancer cells that lacked HER2 (and therefore were not coated with trastuzumab), however, the NK cells produced little of the T-cell-attracting substances.

The researchers also injected IL-12 and trastuzumab-coated mouse-tumor cells into mice and found that it raised the blood levels of the immune-stimulating substances produced by NK cells.

In addition, the researchers analyzed plasma samples from 15 patients with different types of cancer who were participating in a phase-I clinical trial of trastuzumab plus IL-12. The samples showed short-term increases in immune-stimulating substances produced by NK cells, and long-term increases in three patients who responded to the therapy.

“This is a preliminary study and the findings must be verified,” Carson says, “but overall, the evidence supports the use of immune-stimulating agents in patients who receive antibody-based drugs such as trastuzumab.”

Funding from the National Cancer Institute supported this research.


Editor's Note: The original news release can be found here.
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Old 04-30-2006, 11:55 AM   #2
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stimulating the immune system

Thanks for both posts. I've been interested in the possibilities of stimulating the immune system. My onc has been willing to prescribe Herceptin "late" for me (CAF tx completed 2002) but I am NED and I have held off in the belief that even better prevention of recurrence treatments and trials (some of which could require no prior Herceptin) are coming. The learning curve for oncologists is steeper these days... but exciting.

One problem I see is that if there isn't some effort made to find a way to compare how HR+ patients do on new treatments without ever taking a SERM or AI first, we may never know if the SERMS/AI's are still necessary... and they are somewhat detrimental long-term...

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Old 05-01-2006, 01:31 AM   #3
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Immune Boosters and Herceptin

Cathya,

I don't know if I mentioned that I am giving Mom IP-6 on top of everything else these days. IP-6, inositol hexaphosphate, promotes the action of natural killer cells in the immune system. If you do a Google search of IP-6 plus cancer, you will find adequate research of the efficacy of IP-6. It looked promising to me, so I added it to Mom's regimen. Remember that one of the mechanisms of action of Herceptin, is supposed to be that it signals the immune system to recognie cancer cells more easily, and therefore stimulate a more robust immune response toward those cells than would naturally occur. Mom's lymphocyte counts have ben low for some time, so I will check to see if there seems o be any correlation between the addition of IP-6 and any recovery of those counts when I get her latest blood work results. I will certainly mention it if that occurs.

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Old 05-04-2006, 10:38 AM   #4
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Tom;

Interesting you would mention IP-6. I bought some while on chemo and then put them aside as I was afraid of them interferring somehow. Now I think I'll start them again. Mine are 500 mg. How many a day would you recommend? I am ER+ as off herceptin while I get my heart back on track by the way. I also worry that I am doing things (not this but soy for example) that an ER- not positive should be doing.

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