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Old 11-23-2009, 07:55 AM   #1
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Sore Ribs


I have myself convinced that I've got mets to my ribs. I've had
a cold/flu for weeks and did some serious coughing but I'm pretty
much over that now. For the last week I've had this very ugly pain
in my side, up high, close to my incision ... on the cancer side of course. I have an appointment tomorrow morning to see a GP here in town.

Anybody know what mets to ribs feel like?
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:08 AM   #2
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Re: Sore Ribs

Pink Girl
As you know, Donna and i both had fractured ribs from an unknown origin...i think mine might have been a sneeze...anyway, only way to confirm is get a RIB xray, a regular chest xray wont always show it....the pain lasted forever, matter of fact, i think Donna D still has pain. You are in my thoughts and prayers...I am thinking positive it is nothing serious
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:10 AM   #3
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Re: Sore Ribs


Thanks SheilaGirl. I remember DonnaD having this problem but
I assumed it was from radiation. I didn't have radiation because
of having a mastectomy. I'm sure they will start out with some
ordinary x-rays for now.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:39 AM   #4
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Re: Sore Ribs

I, too, once broke ribs during a severe coughing fit. Don't know if it had anything to do with osteoporosis as it happened before that diagnosis. Hoping that your rib pain is simply that, rib pain!!! xo Suzan
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:12 AM   #5
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Re: Sore Ribs

Hey Pink,

I hate these aches and pains that put our minds into overdrive! Sure hope the rib pain turns out to be nothing. Be sure and keep us updated.

Welcome back. I missed you.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:20 AM   #6
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Thanks Gerri and Suzan ... I'm hoping I have a broken rib
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:20 AM   #7
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Re: Sore Ribs

I too had rib pain last year and wanted it checked out. It turned out to be just rib pain and nothing more. Praying for the same for you. I think that after a cold and especially flu, many aches and pains continue on for a while.

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Old 11-23-2009, 09:24 AM   #8
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Thanks Shobha ... I'll let you know what happens tomorrow.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:28 AM   #9
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Re: Sore Ribs

Hi Pinky ~ We missed you! I have had problems on my side, shoulder and arm since my mastectomy. Several years ago before I had reconstruction something was really, really hurting around and on my incision line. What it came out to be was I had developed some scar tissue and the scar tissue banded together (Becky once had the correct terminology...fibrosic tissue maybe?). One of the bands snapped and I thought that I had something going on with my ribs. I hope that maybe this is something similar to what pain you are feeling. After the expansion and reconstruction my PS tried to get out as much scar tissue as he could. I still do have sharp pains there but not at the level it was. Colder weather seems to make it worse.
Please let us know what you find out.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:32 AM   #10
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Hey Pink, I have had rib pain several times from coughing. It lasted a while before it finally let up. I had an xray done, but no broken rib. I think it was more muscular. Hope things turn out well for you.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:51 AM   #11
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Re: Sore Ribs

Thanks Ruth and WOS ... if this was anywhere else on my
body I wouldn't be so worried ... but it's close to the incision
on the cancer side so I have to get it checked out ... I hate
this worrying part of the adventure.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:15 AM   #12
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Tell them to find out rippy, zippy FAST cause you've got 100s of buddies waiting to know! Believin' and prayin' for ya! ma
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:46 AM   #13
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Thanks MA!!! I'll let you know as soon I know.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:27 AM   #14
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Dear Pinky -
Nice to hear from you, but not for this worry! Hope this means that your life has been good in the meantime.

I had "exquisite" rib pain a few years back, closer to my chemo. That term was how my med onc called it so that my insurance would pay for a bone scan. I had already been stage IV so skipped preliminary x-ray, etc. and went right to the nearest bone scan.

I had it for 10 days or so prior, and nothing could be seen to explain it. It was felt to be a pull to my connective tissue that trapped a nerve.

Sending you "all is well" wishes.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:37 AM   #15
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Pink, I've been convinced for weeks I had bone mets and my onc must have thought so as she arranged bone scan, mri and pet scan.
I just got the all clear today but know how worrying these scares/pains can be. I think this may well be from coughing so much, you could have bruised ribs from that.
Sending hugs for good news asap for you
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:58 AM   #16
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Thanks StephN and Tricia ... coughing sure aggrevates it ...
I have to "prepare" for a cough by giving myself a big hug ...
sure hope that's all this is.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:15 PM   #17
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Sending along my best wishes for some very benign cause for your rib pain. I'm glad you don't have to wait forever to have it checked out.

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Old 11-23-2009, 12:18 PM   #18
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Hi Pink-

I'm with Gerri....the unknowns are such a horrible part of this disease. We have to be so vigilant. I am glad you are getting checked out and look forward to seeing good news from you!

I too had broken ribs. My rib cage was sore and I was sure that it was the cancer back again.

I am sending positive thoughts your way that it turns out to be nothing too bad. (How funny we must all sound hoping you have broken ribs!)

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Old 11-23-2009, 12:33 PM   #19
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Hey Pink Girl glad to see you post but not the reason your asking.

I got the dreaded Flu in October and was coughing so bad I just knew I broke a rib. X-rays were taken nope not broken.

I have always had rib pain on my cancer side, it comes and goes.
I have PET/CT scans and all is well.

But like you it hards not to think of what if.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:42 PM   #20
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Thanks Vicki, Maureen and Barb ... I wish I'd had radiation and could
blame this pain on that ... but I didn't have any rads. I actually feel
a bit better today just knowing that I'll be seeing a doctor tomorrow ...
but then I'll still have to wait a bit for the x-ray results ... thanks for
your input ... it really helps a lot.
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