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Old 06-29-2013, 03:38 PM   #1
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Re: Slamon et al trial results: TH very effective and equivalent to TCH in Stage IV h

Hi,

Our oncologist is recommending the TCH regimen. Does this study imply that the TH regimen would be preferred over TCH for Her-2 positive stage 1 breast cancer?

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Ben
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:19 PM   #2
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Re: Slamon et al trial results: TH very effective and equivalent to TCH in Stage IV h

I only know TH -- and supplements -- have worked for me.

I wouldn't want to add more toxicity w/C.

Taxotere hit me hard. I didn't care. I wanted to live! I saw myself as being in a process and would walk through fire to get there. For me, Taxotere was hell. But I NEVER regret taking it, because I believe it contributed to me getting to STABLE. That was 1999. And I remain STABLE.

I did do 10 years of Vitamin H (what I affectionately call Herceptin). My onc thought 5 yrs would be enough. But I was not anxious to mess with success. If it isn't broken, why fix it???

I've been off for 5 yrs. Still STABLE...
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'98 -- multiple mets to liver. HER2+ 80%. ER/PR- Raging, highly aggressive tumors spreading fast. New PORT. 9 mnths Taxotere Fought fire w/fire! Pronounced in cautious remission 5/99. Taxotere weekly for 6 wks, 2 wks off -- for 9 mnths. TALK ABOUT GRUELING! (I believe they've altered that protocol since those days -- sure hope so!!)
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:55 PM   #3
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Re: Slamon et al trial results: TH very effective and equivalent to TCH in Stage IV h

Oncologist. 2013 Jun 28. [Epub ahead of print]
Health-Related Quality of Life With Adjuvant Docetaxel- and Trastuzumab-Based Regimens in Patients with Node-Positive and High-Risk Node-Negative, HER2-Positive Early Breast Cancer: Results from the BCIRG 006 Study.
Au HJ, Eiermann W, Robert NJ, Pienkowski T, Crown J, Martin M, Pawlicki M, Chan A, Mackey J, Glaspy J, Pintér T, Liu MC, Fornander T, Sehdev S, Ferrero JM, Bée V, Santana MJ, Miller DP, Lalla D, Slamon DJ; on behalf of the Translational Research In Oncology BCIRG 006 trial investigators.
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Cross Cancer Institute, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada;
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
This study aims to describe and compare health-related quality of life (HRQL) in patients with node-positive and high-risk node-negative HER2-positive early breast cancer receiving adjuvant docetaxel and trastuzumab-based or docetaxel-based regimens alone.
METHODS:
Eligible patients (n = 3,222) were randomly assigned to either four cycles of adjuvant doxorubicin and cyclophosphamide followed by four cycles of docetaxel (AC→T) or one of two trastuzumab-containing regimens: adjuvant doxorubicin and cyclophosphamide followed by docetaxel plus trastuzumab administered for 1 year (AC→TH) or six cycles of docetaxel plus carboplatin combined with trastuzumab administered for 1 year (TCH). The European Organization for Research and Treatment of Cancer (EORTC) Quality of Life Questionnaire C30 and BR-23 were administered at baseline, the start of cycle 4 (mid), and the end of chemotherapy (EOC), as well as at 6, 12, and 24 months after chemotherapy.
RESULTS:
Compliance rates for the EORTC questionnaires were acceptable at 72%-93% of eligible patients out to the 12-month assessment. Systemic side effect (SE) change scores were significantly improved for TCH-treated patients compared with AC→TH and AC→T at EOC, suggesting improved tolerability. Physical functioning (PF) was only slightly worse at midpoint for those receiving TCH, compared with patients who were just starting on taxane in an AC→TH regimen, but was otherwise similar between arms. All treatment arms recovered from the deterioration in SE, PF, and Global Health Scale scores by 1 year and median future perspective change scores continued to improve throughout treatment and follow-up.
CONCLUSION:
HRQL outcomes for adjuvant docetaxel and trastuzumab-based regimens are favorable and support TCH as a more tolerable treatment option.
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Re: Slamon et al trial results: TH very effective and equivalent to TCH in Stage IV h

Jackie,

Hi! Trying to muddle my way through your post. Full of jargon that never fails to stymy me. However the last line I can read.

TCH is more tolerable (than TH)???

Am I reading that correctly?
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'98 -- multiple mets to liver. HER2+ 80%. ER/PR- Raging, highly aggressive tumors spreading fast. New PORT. 9 mnths Taxotere Fought fire w/fire! Pronounced in cautious remission 5/99. Taxotere weekly for 6 wks, 2 wks off -- for 9 mnths. TALK ABOUT GRUELING! (I believe they've altered that protocol since those days -- sure hope so!!)
+ good old Vit H wkly for 1st 3 yrs, then triple dosage ev 3 wks for 7 yrs more... The "easy" chemo, right?! Not a walk in the park, but not a freight train coming at 'ya either...

Added Herceptin Nov '98 (6 wks after FDA fast-tracked it for met bc). Stayed w/Vit H till July '08! Now I AM FREE! Humbly and eternally grateful for this life-saving drug! NED since '99 and planning on keeping it that way. To hell w/poor prognosis and nasty stats! STOPPED VIT H JULY '08...! REMAIN STABLE... Eternally grateful...Yes is a world & in this world of yes live (skillfully curled) all worlds ... (e e cummings) EVERY DAY I BEAT MY PREVIOUS RECORD FOR # OF CONSECUTIVE DAYS I'VE STAYED ALIVE. Smile KNOWING you too can be a miracle. Up to me and God now...
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