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Old 01-27-2006, 04:57 PM   #1
Julie2
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Vaccine trial and positive ANA

Anybody who wanted to participate in UW vaccine trial had tested positive for ANA (autoimmune disease)? I have tested positive and so it makes me ineligible. I am really wondering what caused it to be positive as I don't have any problems or symptoms of autoimmune disease. Can Herceptin make it to be positive?

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Old 01-27-2006, 11:51 PM   #2
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positive ANA-- different patterns, found in normal population, drug-related

Antinuclear Antibody Test
(ANA)
• What are antinuclear antibodies?
• How is the ANA test designed?
• What are autoimmune diseases?
• What other conditions cause ANAs to be produced?
• Can medications cause ANAs to be produced?
• ANAs are defined as having patterns. What does this mean?
• Are ANAs always associated with illness?


What are antinuclear antibodies?

Normally, we have antibodies in our blood that are used to repell invaders into our body, such as virus and bacteria microbes. Antinuclear antibodies (ANAs) are unusual antibodies, detectable in the blood, that have the capability of binding to certain structures within the nucleus of the cells. The nucleus is the innermost core within the body's cells and contains the DNA, the genetic material. ANAs are found in patients whose immune system may be predisposed to cause inflammation against their own body tissues. Antibodies that are directed against one's own tissues are referred to as auto-antibodies. The propensity for the immune system to work against its own body is referred to as autoimmunity. ANAs indicate the possible presence of autoimmunity and provide, therefore, an indication for doctors to consider the possibility of autoimmune illness.

How is the ANA test designed and what is it for?

The ANA test was designed by Dr. George Friou in 1957. The ANA test is performed using a blood sample. The antibodies in the serum of the blood are exposed in the laboratory to cells. It is then determined whether or not antibodies are present that react to various parts of the nucleus of cells. Thus, the term anti-"nuclear" antibody. Fluorescence techniques are frequently used to actually detect the antibodies in the cells, thus ANA testing is sometimes referred to as fluorescent antinuclear antibody test (FANA). The ANA test is a sensitive screening test used to detect autoimmune diseases.
Antinuclear Antibody (cont.)

In this Article
• What are antinuclear antibodies?
• How is the ANA test designed?
• What are autoimmune diseases?
• What other conditions cause ANAs to be produced?
• Can medications cause ANAs to be produced?
• ANAs are defined as having patterns. What does this mean?
• Are ANAs always associated with illness?
• Antinuclear Antibody Center
What are autoimmune diseases?

Autoimmune diseases are conditions in which there is a disorder of the immune system characterized by the abnormal production of antibodies (auto-antibodies) directed against the tissues of the body. Autoimmune diseases typically feature inflammation of various tissues of the body. ANAs are found in patients with a number of different autoimmune diseases, such as systemic lupus erythematosus, Sjogren's syndrome, rheumatoid arthritis, polymyositis, scleroderma, Hashimoto's thyroiditis, juvenile diabetes mellitus, Addison disease , vitiligo, pernicious anemia, glomerulonephritis, and pulmonary fibrosis. ANAs can also be found in patients with conditions that are not considered classic autoimmune diseases, such as chronic infections and cancer.
What other conditions cause ANAs to be produced?

ANAs can be produced in patients with infections (virus or bacteria), lung diseases (primary pulmonary fibrosis, pulmonary hypertension), gastrointestinal diseases (ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, primary biliary cirrhosis, alcoholic liver disease), hormonal diseases (Hashimoto's autoimmune thyroiditis, Grave's disease), blood diseases (idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, hemolytic anemia), cancers (melanoma, breast, lung, kidney, ovarian and others), skin diseases (psoriasis, pemphigus), as well as in the elderly and those persons with a family history of rheumatic diseases.

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Antinuclear Antibody (cont.)

In this Article
• What are antinuclear antibodies?
• How is the ANA test designed?
• What are autoimmune diseases?
• What other conditions cause ANAs to be produced?
• Can medications cause ANAs to be produced?
• ANAs are defined as having patterns. What does this mean?
• Are ANAs always associated with illness?
• Antinuclear Antibody Center
Can medications cause ANAs to be produced?

Many medications can sometimes stimulate the production of ANAs, including procainamide (Procan SR), hydralazine, and dilantin. These are referred to as drug-induced ANAs. This does not necessary mean that any disease is present when these ANAs are "induced." Sometimes diseases are associated with these ANAs and they are referred to as drug-induced diseases.
ANAs are defined in certain patterns. What does this mean?

ANAs present different "patterns" depending on the staining of the cell nucleus in the laboratory: homogeneous or diffuse; speckled; nucleolar; and peripheral or rim. While these patterns are not specific for any one illness, certain illnesses can more frequently be associated with one pattern or another. The patterns then can sometimes give the doctor further clues as to types of illnesses to look for in evaluating a patient. For example, the nucleolar pattern is more commonly seen in the disease scleroderma. The speckled pattern is seen in many conditions and in persons who do not have any autoimmune disease.
Are ANAs always associated with illness?

No. ANAs can be found in approximately 5% of the normal population, usually in low titers (low levels). These persons usually have no disease. Titers of lower than 1:80 are less likely to be significant. (ANA titers of less than or equal to 1:40 are considered negative). Even higher titers are often insignificant in patients over 60 years of age. Ultimately, the ANA result must be interpreted in the specific context of an individual patient's symptoms and other test results. It may or may not be significant in a given individual.


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Old 01-28-2006, 10:39 PM   #3
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Julie,

My ANA titer has been elevated for 10 years!! I had 3 miscarriages and they tested it and it was positive. Then i did alll the tests for lupus,arthritis and many others. All came back negative. Throughout the past 10 years i've tested the ANA several times. All positve but no symptoms. Then when i was tested for it for the vaccine trial, go figure, i tested negative!! Can't explain it. Have it tested again, maybe it will be negative. Different labs sometimes can get different results also.
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