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Old 08-19-2011, 05:21 AM   #1
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Study confirms tamoxifen is superior to fulvestrant in blocking estrogen

For the first time, researchers at Seattle Cancer Care Alliance have demonstrated the feasibility of using serial positron emission tomography (PET) scans, using a special estrogen-containing isotope, to confirm the relative effectiveness of estrogen-blocking and estrogen-depleting therapy in patients with metastatic breast cancer.

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Old 08-19-2011, 10:39 AM   #2
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Re: Study confirms tamoxifen is superior to fulvestrant in blocking estrogen

Did I read this right that they found Tamoxifen superior
to AIs as well???
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Old 08-20-2011, 02:25 PM   #3
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Re: Study confirms tamoxifen is superior to fulvestrant in blocking estrogen

That's how I read it:

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The PET scans, taken before, during and after hormonal therapy, confirmed the superior effectiveness of estrogen-receptor-blocking drugs such as tamoxifen and fulvestrant over estrogen-depleting therapies such as aromatase inhibitors in blocking the estrogen receptor in cancer cells. The study also confirmed that tamoxifen is superior to fulvestrant in blocking estrogen.
This begs the question regarding Fulvestrant's ability to often work after Tamoxifen doesn't. Must be more to situation than estrogen.

And it's also supportive of a few oncologist's use of AI along with SERMS like Tamoxifen or Fulvestrant.
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:28 PM   #4
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Re: Study confirms tamoxifen is superior to fulvestrant in blocking estrogen

Perhaps some of the studies of Tamoxifen versus Arimidex (where the Arimidex is deemed better) stems from the fact that a certain percentage of the population does not respond to Tamoxifen. So if they test responders versus Arimidex - I wonder if the results would be the same?
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:52 AM   #5
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Re: Study confirms tamoxifen is superior to fulvestrant in blocking estrogen

Okay - I read the full study elsewhere. In the study, they were studying estrogen blocking more than estrogen depleting. They gave patients radioactive estrogen and then scanned them. Of course an AI would do more poorly because an AI prevents the synthesis of estrogen in the body and the researchers were giving estrogen. However, it is a good study in relation to which drug blocks estrogen better.

It was difficult to comprehend that with all the studies on the 3 AIs, all concluding that an AI is better than Tamoxifen, that this study would say differently and the reason is the study gives estrogen so those taking an AI would of course have uptake since in theory, their bodies can't make estrogen.
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1.9cm tumor, ER+PR-, Her2 3+(rt side)
2 micromets to sentinel node
Stage 2A
left 3mm DCIS - low grade ER+PR+Her2 neg
lumpectomies 9/7/04
4DD AC followed by 4 DD taxol
Used Leukine instead of Neulasta
35 rads on right side only
4/05 started Tamoxifen
Started Herceptin 4 months after last Taxol due to
trial results and 2005 ASCO meeting & recommendations
Oophorectomy 8/05
Started Arimidex 9/05
Finished Herceptin (16 months) 9/06
Arimidex Only
Prolia every 6 months for osteopenia

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