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Old 11-28-2007, 04:40 PM   #21
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Hermiracles,

I'm absolutely speechless! How can a doctor determine your life cylce. Please do not give up the fight as there are many treatment options available to you. You have two beautiful miracles to fight for. I will keep you in my prayers.
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Neoadjunct chemo: 4 A/C; 4 Taxatore
Bilateral mastectomy June 8, 2006
14 of 26 nodes positive
Herceptin June 22, 2006 - April 20, 2007
Radiation (X35) July 24-September 11, 2006
BRCA1/BRCA2 negative
Stage IV lung mets July 13, 2007 - TCH
Single brain met - August 6, 2007 -CyberKnife
Oct 2007 - clear brain MRI and lung mets shrinking.
March 2008 lung met progression, brain still clear - begin Tykerb/Xeloda/Ixempra
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:25 PM   #22
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I will be 2 years out in December with original diagnosis with mets to the lung. I have been NED ever since treatment of Taxotere, Xeloda and Herceptin. Hopefully, I will continue that way for many more years. I can't believe your Oncologist told you that you had 18 months to live, he must not be confident in his ability. I think I would look for a more optimistic doctor who will fight for you...sherryg
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13+ positive lymph nodes
Stage IV , Her2+, 2 small mets to lungsChemo Started: Jan, 2006
4 months Taxotere, Xeloda, Hercepin
NED since April 2006!!
36 Rads to follow with weekly Herceptin indefinately
8 years NED now
Scans every year

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Old 11-28-2007, 08:07 PM   #23
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My doctor initially told me that I had 2-3 years, (I am a stage 4er), but later admitted that those were statistics were pre-Herceptin. Now she just tells me that this will be a chronic illness. There are so many treatment combinations. You have come to the right place for support, these sisters have helped me through some dark times and we will do the same for you. I will be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:45 PM   #24
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I missed the $200, too!

Boy can I relate to the shock you must be feeling. I went from Stage 0 to Stage IV! From club NED to club DEAD. That will definitely give you a twisted sense of humor. My oncologist and surgeon were in complete denial!

That was a bit over 3 years ago. I was fortunate to have a 2 great oncologists who never gave me an expiration date.

I dearly loved my original oncologist and somehow always felt like (after having told me I was "cured" 2 years prior) he was particularly invested in me living a long life. I called him "Dr. Cautiously Optimistic". He dropped dead of a heart attack at 42...I'd secretly planned to outlive him, but was thinking more of me being 86 and him 78.

My 2nd opinion doctor, "Dr. Hope", gave us just that - hope that I might respond well and for a long time to the numerous new therapies coming down the pipe for Her2+ ladies. She used the "chronic" analogy that others have mentioned. She told me that women are living longer with this disease and managing it for many years.

I guess what I'm saying is, I'm SO sorry that you are now on a different road than you had expected. But neither you nor your doctor can say how long that road will be.

Do not lose heart, it is not over - you can and will gear up and continue the fight. Keep the faith. Keep the fight. For yourself and those beautiful BB's.

We're all pulling for you.

Much love
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June 2002 extensive hi grade DCIS (pre-cancer-stage 0, clean sentinal node) Mastectomy/implant - no chemo, rads. "cured?"
9/2004 Diag: Stage IV extensive liver mets (!) ER/PR- Her2+++
10/04-3/05 Weekly Taxol/Carboplatin/Herceptin , complete response!
04/05 - 4/07 Herception every 3 wks, Continue NED
04/07 - recurrence to liver - 2 spots, starting tykerb/avastin trial
06/07 8/07 10/07 Scans show stable, continue on Tykerb/Avastin
01/08 Progression in liver
02/08 Begin (TDM1) trial
08/08 NED! It's Working! Continue on TDM1
02/09 Continue NED
02/10 Continue NED. 5/10 9/10 Scans NED 10/10 Scans NED
12/10 Scans not clear....4/11 Scans suggest progression 6/11 progression confirmed in liver
07/11 - 11/11 Herceptin/Xeloda -not working:(
12/11 Begin MM302 Phase I trial - bust:(
03/12 3rd times the charm? AKT trial

5/12 Scan shows reduction! 7/12 More reduction!!!!
8/12 Whoops...progression...trying for Perjeta/Herceptin (plus some more nasty chemo!)
9/12 Start Perjeta/Herceptin, chemo on hold due to infection/wound in leg, added on cycle 2 &3
11/12 Poops! progression in liver, Stop Perjeta/Taxo/Herc
11/12 Navelbine/Herce[ptin - try for a 3 cycles, no go.
2/13 Gemzar/Carbo/Herceptin - no go.
3/13 TACE procedure
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Old 12-06-2007, 05:17 PM   #25
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Chrisy - you crack me up and I think we were separated at birth! I love my onc, too - he has never talked about expiration dates or long or short term prognosis, and he doesn't ever intend to. He does tell me stories about patients who have come to him after a previous onc has told them there is nothing else they can do, and that was 3, 4, 5 years ago.... He tells me exactly the same things yours tells you. Let's get you around every next corner, because there is so much new stuff that will be ready and waiting to help us conquer the next hurdle. We just keep jumping the hurdles. He just makes me promise to do my part to stay as healthy as possible in all other ways so that I can handle what ever he needs to throw at me.
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NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

"I would rather be anecdotally alive than statistically dead."
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:02 PM   #26
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You have received such wonderful responses I can hardly add much, but I want to add my prayers and good wishes to all these others. I have survived---and thrived---for 22 years of fighting BC, the last 3 and a half after her2 lung mets. My onc gave me 3 months before I started herceptin, then a year. When I laughed at him and told him he was wrong and I would be around at least 5 years, he apologised and agreed, and said that my attitude would make the difference. I have actually been stage 4 for 18 years now. There is so much available now to fight with, and cancer is becoming more a chronic treatable illness than the death sentence it used to be considered. Many oncologists are still stuck in the old statistics. We are now creating new statistics! There are so many great survivor stories here---Please let us know how you are doing. I pray that you will have a great survivor story to tell as you go along! Hugs, Tricia
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:44 AM   #27
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Thank you ladies so much for your wonderful loving - and inspiring responses. Sometimes I find it hard to resist my negative thinking - and Im not sure that the Onc's words are helping! (and my latest allergic reaction to my 1st dose of Herceptin hasn't helped either!)

Still I am off to get a 2nd opinion on treatment which some friends have arranged the appointment for me - so Im feeling a bit more hopeful today and it certainly helps to come here and read all of your responses! Thank you.

Blessings all
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04/07 2 miracles born ~ very grateful
06/07 Susp areas L/b
09/07 Stage 2 bilat. mastectomy R/ b. clear extens DCIS/IDC Paget’s 8 nodes clear ER(<5%) HER2+++ CT clear
11/07 Portacath - FEC
15/11/07 Stage 4 Emerg op - hip replacemt #NOF bone mets H/Taxotere
12/07 Rx to 'spots' on spine/R/hip/femur 3wkly H
2008 H+T mets to rib/sternum? Aredia CT clear! Cont. H + Aredia 07/08 1 wk Palliative Care - mets to lungs + ?1 to brain
09/08 Stop H complete Epirubicin 1wk PC new brain mets
10/08 2wks WBR 1wk PC 22/10/08 Tykerb/Xeloda 12/08 6 CEREBRAL METS COMPLETELY GONE! Rib mets down to <1cm.
01/09 Tumour markers normal! Rx to L/arm
03/09 LUNGS CLEAR (ALL NODULES GONE!), brain clear, liver clear. Bones stable! ~ THANK YOU GOD
07/09 Repeat CT Scan ~ ALL organs clear apart from bones which remain stable. I walk in gratitude.
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