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Old 09-15-2016, 01:23 PM   #1
donocco
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Re: Boosting Your Immune System - share your ideas

There was a Danish study way back in the early 1990s. A few patients who had previously received chemo were given Q10 at a dosage of 390mg daily. In a bout 4 patients the mets of stage 4 breast cancer disappeared. You would think this would be front page news, but few know about this. Anybody with a computer can look it up.

With supplements what I really about is the FDA. They have been trying to get Vitamins and supplements off the market for decades. The reasons are legion. Maybe it has less to do with kissing big pharma's behind and more to do with the fact that they cant control supplements. It may be an ego thing.

Whatever the reason, they made a big try in 1994. They wanted to make 1000mg Vitamin C and 400mg Vitamin E prescription drugs along with banning other OTC supplements. There was a public outcry and Congress was threatened, probably with non reelection and Congress forced the FDA to back down. I'm sure they will try again.

What I am going to say I have to say with some care. There seems to be a phenomenon with all canxcers where blood levels show excess copper compared to the zinc level. When you make a ratio of copper level vs zinc level in cancer patients the ratio favors the copper. The more advanced and aggressive a cancer is the higher the copper to zinc ratio. A normal copper/zinc ratio may be 0.8. A patient actually dying of cancer may have a ration pf 2.2. Its amazing. You could have 900 women patients in a room. 300=no abnormal lump, 300 a benign lump and 300 a malignant lump.Lets say you do a copper/zinc ratio of all 900 women. The no lump women might have a ratio averaging 0.9. The benign lump women a ratio of 1.2. The women with cancer might be 1.5 and higher. It would be foolish to do this, but you could probably diagnose 92% of the malignancies just by the copper/zinc ratio.

I'm sorry this is so long. Hopefully it will be interesting to a few. Anyway I wonder if zinc supplementation orally would aid in cancer treatment. I cant say. Yet it makes logical sense. So a patient goes to CVS and buys zinc tablets today 9/15/2016. The tablets will say on the bottle expires 6/2019. That is a legality but the reality is that the zinc tablets will probably be effective if kept away from light and heat when your great grandchildren are alive. Most of these expiration dates are political not chemical. This was proven by the Veterans administration years ago. They tracked the efficacy of expired prescription drugs five, ten years after the expiration date and found little loss of potency. This can be easily checked on with some computer research. The VA begged the FDA to let them use these "expired" but chemically active drugs. The FDA gave a flat no!.

People are going to have to read between the lines. You have to weigh to facts. There is the possibility of many of the supplements you feel are helping being taken off the market by the FDA. You also have to consider that the supposed expiration date put on the bottle of Matake mushroom capsules (for example ) may be more apparent than real.

Paul

PS For those interested, look up that Danish 390mg Coenzyme Q-10, liver mets disappearing study. It may be wise to increase the dosage of Q10 to 400mg a day. Just a suggestion. Of course you should discuss this with your doctor. Please forgive the length of this post and any misspelings
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Old 09-15-2016, 01:43 PM   #2
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Re: Boosting Your Immune System - share your ideas

Hi Paul

I hoped you would reply!
I think you would find a lot of info in these books interesting although I'm sure you already know most of them.
Big Pharma mentioned quite a bit especially in "The miraculous results.." book.

With regard to Vit D the author in the above book mentions that no patent on Vit D and therefore no money to be made. So no major study being done on the benefits of Vit D.
He also mentions 3 cancer drugs that are made of high doses of Vit D!

The book is more of a conversation with the author and his thoughts. He does say that he has looked at various studies, particularly on pub med & analysed statistics.
Unless I'm totally losing it!! A lot of the info seemed to tie - up and make a lot of sense.

Once I get my head round the info & if anybody interested! - I will post some of the findings.

Regards
Julie
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:01 PM   #3
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Re: Boosting Your Immune System - share your ideas

On my way out and caught this. Hi all.

I never touch vitamin A or K. Too much bad stuff associated with it. And you know how many dozens of supplements I take daily (since 1998).

I take D becuase as we age (and maybe when on chemo) our organs demand more D3.

I ask to have my D3 tested w/ev 6 mnth bld tests. Doc includes in the list with tumor markers and all else. I also request B for B12.

Turns out for me D3 is normal but way low.

So I now take 10,000 daily.

At once time they recommended 50,00 a wk and had a pill made of that mg. I always decline to take large dosages. Better to spread them out, according to my integrative oncologist.

i.e. I take 150 mg co enzyme q10 -- 2 x a day vs 300 all at once.

ALWAYS KEEP WELL HYDRATED ! ALWAYS , ALWAYS , ALWAYS.

8-10 glasses of water a day. Soda doesn't count.

BE WELL...

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'98 -- multiple mets to liver. HER2+ 80%. ER/PR- Raging, highly aggressive tumors spreading fast. New PORT. 9 mnths Taxotere Fought fire w/fire! Pronounced in cautious remission 5/99. Taxotere weekly for 6 wks, 2 wks off -- for 9 mnths. TALK ABOUT GRUELING! (I believe they've altered that protocol since those days -- sure hope so!!)
+ good old Vit H wkly for 1st 3 yrs, then triple dosage ev 3 wks for 7 yrs more... The "easy" chemo, right?! Not a walk in the park, but not a freight train coming at 'ya either...

Added Herceptin Nov '98 (6 wks after FDA fast-tracked it for met bc). Stayed w/Vit H till July '08! Now I AM FREE! Humbly and eternally grateful for this life-saving drug! NED since '99 and planning on keeping it that way. To hell w/poor prognosis and nasty stats! STOPPED VIT H JULY '08...! REMAIN STABLE... Eternally grateful...Yes is a world & in this world of yes live (skillfully curled) all worlds ... (e e cummings) EVERY DAY I BEAT MY PREVIOUS RECORD FOR # OF CONSECUTIVE DAYS I'VE STAYED ALIVE. Smile KNOWING you too can be a miracle. Up to me and God now...
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