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09-29-2007, 08:41 AM
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Spirits...
Hi All,
We have all been listening to a lot of media coverage on the effects of
drinking and bc...attached is another article, in this one they give the
study stats of 70,033 woman who were tracked, of those 2,829 did
get bc.
When I crunched these numbers that comes out to 4% of the woman.
I would not panic over these stats and of course moderation is the
key. Hope this makes everyone feel a bit more comfortable.
Cheers!
Jean
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/83927.php
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Stage 1, Grade 1, 3/30/05
Lumpectomy 4/15/05 - 6MM IDC
Node Neg. (Sentinel node)
ER+ 90% / PR-, Her2+++ by FISH
Ki-67 40%
Arimidex 5/05
Radiation 32 trt, 5/30/05
Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
TOPO 11 neg. 4/06
Stopped Arimidex 5/06
TCH 5/06, 6 treatments
Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
9/06 Completed chemo
Started Femara Sept. 2006
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09-29-2007, 09:45 AM
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I don't drink at all, and I got BC. Go figure.
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12/12/06- IDC Stage III, 4x A/C, 35 rads, Herceptin 1 year
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09-29-2007, 12:56 PM
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Brenda,
I have a dear old Aunt - she is 93 and a real live wire!
She has her half bottle of wine each and everyday.
Healthly as a horse - runs around all over San Deigo
still is in the dating game also!
She also still smokes! Go figure? She was shocked when
I was dx. since she kept saying all her life "What Great Genes
our Family has."
I also believe that the older generation was not exposed to
as much toxins. Who knows? I'll ponder all of this over
dinner with my glass of wine.
Hugs,
Jean
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Stage 1, Grade 1, 3/30/05
Lumpectomy 4/15/05 - 6MM IDC
Node Neg. (Sentinel node)
ER+ 90% / PR-, Her2+++ by FISH
Ki-67 40%
Arimidex 5/05
Radiation 32 trt, 5/30/05
Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
TOPO 11 neg. 4/06
Stopped Arimidex 5/06
TCH 5/06, 6 treatments
Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
9/06 Completed chemo
Started Femara Sept. 2006
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09-29-2007, 02:08 PM
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Before breast cancer I hardly drank any alcohol. Very, very little. I'd say in a year's time possibly 5 - 8 drinks in the whole darn year. Since breast cancer that has changed. Now I have approximately 4 - 5 beers a week and lovin' every minute of it.
Hey, since breast cancer I've learned - LIFE IS SHORT - so enjoy!!!! Of course, moderation is the key.
Cheers back at ya,
Mary Jo
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Dx. 6/24/05 age 45 Right Breast IDC ER/PR. Neg., - Her2+++ RB Mast. - 7/28/05 - 4 cm. tumor Margins clear - 1 microscopic cell 1 sent. node No Vasucular Invasion 4 DD A/C - 4 DD Taxol & Herceptin 1 full year of Herceptin received every 3 weeks 28 rads prophylactic Mast. 3/2/06
17 Years NED
<>< Romans 8:28
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09-29-2007, 02:25 PM
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Hi Jean
Thanks for posting this! I think people who did everything right still got bc (I did'nt !) so really they still just don't know. I like to be careful about my health now but still enjoy a glass of wine with dinner.I really think we still have to live and if we cut out everything they say is to blame...we may as well give up!!!
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Tricia
Dx July '05 IDC 1.9cm Triple positive 3/9 nodes positive
A/C X 4 ..Taxol/Herceptin x 12 wks then herceptin 1 yr
Rads x 36 ..oophorectomy August '06
Currently taking Arimidex..
June 2011 osteopenia/ zometa x1 yearly- stopped Zometa 2015 as Dexa show normal bone density.
Stopped Arimidex July 2014- Restarted Arimidex 2015 for a further two years on the advice of my Onc.
2014 Normal Dexa scan
2018 Mammo all clear, still NED!
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09-29-2007, 03:28 PM
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Hi Jean,
OK, I'm a little slow, was this study done on women in general who drank, or womeon that had had a history of breast cancer? Thanks,
Love, Kelly
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dx'd 05/06, 37 years old
er/pr-, Her2+, grade 3
double mastectomy, immediate reconstruction- implants
Stage 2b, 2 tumors- 2.2 cm and 0.6 cm, 3/5 + nodes
all scans clear
genetic testing- negative
06/06 began dd A/C x 4, 12 weekly Taxols w/ Herceptin
30 rads
Herceptin weekly x 1 year
Herceptin completed 08/07
Port removed 12/26/07 MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!
05/17/08 Two year anniversary NED
"We gain strength, courage, and confidence by each experience in which we really stop to look fear in the face... you must do the thing that you think you cannot do."
-Eleanor Roosevelt
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09-29-2007, 09:16 PM
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Thanks!
Thanks so much for this number crunching post..................I'll drink to that! :-)
Donna
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09-29-2007, 09:50 PM
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Hi Kelly,
The study was done on a group of woman in general. They did not have
a history of bc - the tracking was done to study the effects of any beverge be it wine, beer, etc. the outcome showed that any type
of drinking had the same risk factor.
Your hair looks beautiful!
Hugs,
jean
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Stage 1, Grade 1, 3/30/05
Lumpectomy 4/15/05 - 6MM IDC
Node Neg. (Sentinel node)
ER+ 90% / PR-, Her2+++ by FISH
Ki-67 40%
Arimidex 5/05
Radiation 32 trt, 5/30/05
Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
TOPO 11 neg. 4/06
Stopped Arimidex 5/06
TCH 5/06, 6 treatments
Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
9/06 Completed chemo
Started Femara Sept. 2006
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09-30-2007, 04:03 PM
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The way I look at it life is too short to worry over whether a few drinks a week are going to harm you. I still believe that anything in moderation is ok. And now being a Stage IVer I wouldn't care what they say -- if I want a drink I'll have it.
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Kate
Stage IIIC Diagnosed Oct 25, 2005 (age 58)
ER/PR-, HER2+++, grade 3, Ploidy/DNA index: Aneuploid/1.61, S-phase: 24.2%
Neoadjunct chemo: 4 A/C; 4 Taxatore
Bilateral mastectomy June 8, 2006
14 of 26 nodes positive
Herceptin June 22, 2006 - April 20, 2007
Radiation (X35) July 24-September 11, 2006
BRCA1/BRCA2 negative
Stage IV lung mets July 13, 2007 - TCH
Single brain met - August 6, 2007 -CyberKnife
Oct 2007 - clear brain MRI and lung mets shrinking.
March 2008 lung met progression, brain still clear - begin Tykerb/Xeloda/Ixempra
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09-30-2007, 04:16 PM
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I was also in the "maybe 6 drinks a year" before BC category. Also did not smoke, ate well. I still won't go crazy, but I also feel if I want to have a few glasses of wine here or there, I will.
all the best
caya
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ER90%+/PR 50%+/HER 2+
1.7 cm and 1.0 cm.
Stage 1, grade 2, Node Negative (16 nodes tested)
MRM Dec.18/06
3 x FEC, 3 x Taxotere
Herceptin - every 3 weeks for a year, finished May 8/08
Tamoxifen - 2 1/2 years
Femara - Jan. 1, 2010 - July 18, 2012
BRCA1/BRCA2 Negative
Dignosed 10/16/06, age 48 , premenopausal
Mild lymphedema diagnosed June 2009 - breast surgeon and lymph. therapist think it's completely reversible - hope so.
Reclast infusion January 2012
Oopherectomy October 2013
15 Years NED!!
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09-30-2007, 04:44 PM
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Occasional poster here, I needed to voice my 2cents on this one. My mother has never drank (not even sipped any alcohol her entire life), never smoked anything, never taken drugs etc. etc. etc. And still got bc, I truly think that the 2,829 that developed bc may have developed it even though they had been drinking alcoholic beverages.
Like everyone said, life is too short. And everything it appears nowadays causes some type of cancer, it's just the toxic enviroment we live in. Also years ago they did not have the screening exams that they do now, so people died but who knows from what.
A.
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09-30-2007, 05:04 PM
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My nickname has always been "half beer Brenda" - I'm known as a cheap date. After my partyin' 20s (not very partyin' when you get tipsy from 1/2 a beer, LOL) - I typically drank 2 drinks a month at the most!
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Brenda
NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)
Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg
Apr'07~ MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~ Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~ MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~ PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~ scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~ dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~ Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~ new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~ new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.
"I would rather be anecdotally alive than statistically dead."
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