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Old 02-19-2007, 09:11 AM   #1
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ugly dyrness

Hi, This has been an ongoing problem with me sinch the chemo began 6 weeks ago for my hands and feet. Has anyone found anything to help with this for the hands and feet?
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:44 AM   #2
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I used udderly smooth, found at my local drugstore, which helped a lot with that.

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init diag 3/17/03-stage IIIC
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CET x4 neo-adjuvant
lump & SNB 8/03
CET x2
radiation and herceptin/navelbine 11-03-1/04
1st reoccur to lymph nodes 8/04
complete axillary dissection 12/04
herceptin/taxotere til progression (lungs) 3/05
xeloda w/out lapatinib trial 6/05
lapatinib/tykerb added 4/06
ended trial 8/06 due to progression
doxil / avastin 11/06-12/06 - wasn't working
navelbine/herceptin/avastin 12/06/3/07 - progression
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:57 AM   #3
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I use Vaseline "Deep Moisture" Creamy Formula, have found it works the best for me.
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Old 02-19-2007, 01:05 PM   #4
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I've tried lots of lotions and I personally have had the best results with "Camille Beckman" hand therapy. I don't live without it now. Love it. Its almost pure Glycerine. They have hand therapy creams, face, foot creams and you name it. I've mainly only buy the hand cream. It really gets in deep in the skin and makes your hands and skin so soft. Heres a little of whats in it. (And no, I do not work for them.) LOL>The lotion that made Camille Beckman famous! This unique restorative cream moisturizes and nourishes through the careful blending of Glycerine, Vitamin E, Aloe Vera, Wheat Protein, Almond Oil and Plant Extracts. Aids the skin in the development of a protective barrier against harsh elements and demands we ask of our hands.<

If you have any interest in trying it...just type in google "camille Beckman". I like putting it on my hands at night when I won't be washing them every five minutes. It does wonders.

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Rt. MRM on 1-3-06 -- No Rads due to compromised lungs.
Chemo started 2-7-06 -- TCH - - Finished 6-12-06
Finished yr of wkly herceptin 3-19-07
3-15-07 Lt side prophylactic simple mastectomy. -- Ooph 4-05-07
9-21-09 PET/CT "Recurrence" to Rt. axllia, Rt. femur, ilium. Possible Sacrum & liver? Now stage IV.
9-28-09 Loading dose of Herceptin & started Zometa
9-29-09 Power Port Placement
10-24-09 Mass 6.4 x 4.7 cm on Rt. femur head.
11-19-09 RT. Femur surgery - Rod placed
12-7-09 Navelbine added to Herceptin/Zometa.
3-23-10 Ten days of rads to RT femur. Completed.
4-05-10 Quit Navelbine--Herceptin/Zometa alone.
5-4-10 Appt. with Dr. Slamon to see what is next? Waiting on FISH results from femur biopsy.
Results to FISH was unsuccessful--this happens less then 2% of the time.
7-7-10 Recurrence to RT axilla again. Back to UCLA for options.
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:29 PM   #5
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Original Eucerine paste apllied 3x per day works for me. I think the estrogen deprivation leads to the dry skin. Chemo doesn't help. BB
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:43 AM   #6
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The only thing I have found for my hands and feet to heal the cracks and dryness is AHAVA hand and foot cream.

You can get it at www.deadseamineral.com
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Diagnosed at age 49.99999 2/21/2002 via Mammography (Calcifications)
Core Biopsy 2/22/02
L. Mastectomy 2/25/2002
Stage 1, 0.7cm IDC, Node Neg from 19 nodes Her2+++ ER PR Neg
6/2003 Reconstruction W/ Tissue Expander, Silicone Implant
9/2003 Stage IV with Mets to Supraclavicular nodes
9/2003 Began Herceptin every 3 weeks
3/2006 Xeloda 2500mg/Herceptin for recurrence to neck nodes
3/2007 Added back the Xeloda with Herceptin for continued mets to nodes
5/2007 Taken Off Xeloda, no longer working
6/14/07 Taxol/Herceptin/Avastin
3/26 - 5/28/08 Taxol Holiday Whopeeeeeeeee
5/29 2008 Back on Taxol w Herceptin q 2 weeks
4/2009 Progression on Taxol & Paralyzed L Vocal Cord from Nodes Pressing on Nerve
5/2009 Begin Rx with Navelbine/Herceptin
11/09 Progression on Navelbine
Fought for and started Tykerb/Herceptin...nodes are melting!!!!!
2/2010 Back to Avastin/Herceptin
5/2010 Switched to Metronomic Chemo with Herceptin...Cytoxan and Methotrexate
Pericardial Window Surgery to Drain Pericardial Effusion
7/2010 Back to walking a mile a day...YEAH!!!!
9/2010 Nodes are back with a vengence in neck
Qualified for TDM-1 EAP
10/6/10 Begin my miracle drug, TDM-1
Mixed response, shrinking internal nodes, progression skin mets after 3 treatments
12/6/10 Started Halaven (Eribulen) /Herceptin excellent results in 2 treatments
2/2011 I CELEBRATE my 9 YEAR MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7/5/11 begin Gemzar /Herceptin for node progression
2/8/2012 Gemzar stopped, Continue Herceptin
2/20/2012 Begin Tomo Radiation to Neck Nodes
2/21/2012 I CELEBRATE 10 YEARS
5/12/2012 BeganTaxotere/ Herceptin is my next miracle for new node progression
6/28/12 Stopped Taxotere due to pregression, Started Perjeta/Herceptin
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:55 PM   #7
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Thumbs up

Kathy,

If the bottem of your feet are extremely dry (mine were) I found a product
called Zim's Crack Creme - you pruchase this in any CVS pharmacy. It is a natural herbal product and works immediately. I put in on my feet and then
go to bed by morning there is 100% improvement.

Sheila's creme Ahava is great also, I purchased it and love for my hands.
But I found for my very dry feet the Zim's was great as it gave instant
help.

Good Luck....

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Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
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Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:12 PM   #8
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Jean, can you use this crack creme on your fingertips? I have had such a problem recently with the tips of my thumbs cracking and they hurt. Any other suggestions for skin cracking on finger and thumb tips? Is this from Herceptin? That is all I am taking.
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:41 PM   #9
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Hi Rinaina,

Yes you can (I have had those cracks also ) esp. on my cuticles the skin gets
so hard at the finger nail and cracks. Yes I use the the product. It is not thick
or greasy and has the texture like water and sets right into the skin.
Once I got my hands straightened out I use Sheila's cream daily and often.

I don't know why the feet seem to be more difficult...but try it. It is not exspensive and hopefully it will help you. It also smells natural and nice
like cloves nice and spicy.

By the way - your picture is "Great" what a beautiful smile you have.

Hugs,
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Lumpectomy 4/15/05 - 6MM IDC
Node Neg. (Sentinel node)
ER+ 90% / PR-, Her2+++ by FISH
Ki-67 40%
Arimidex 5/05
Radiation 32 trt, 5/30/05
Oncotype DX test 4/17/06, 31% high risk
TOPO 11 neg. 4/06
Stopped Arimidex 5/06
TCH 5/06, 6 treatments
Herceptin 5/06 - for 1 yr.
9/06 Completed chemo
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Old 02-20-2007, 05:48 PM   #10
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I use products from Arbonne and love them. The makeup is wonderful, as it does not stain clothes like others do and doesn't feel like a mask. The foot cream is wonderful which I use on both hands and feet. They are natural, fragrance free, don't stain and is very reasonable in price. I can not tolerate anything that has petroleum in it or a greasy feeling. I try to stay away from products that use crude oil. I read somewhere if companies stopped using crude oil in all these products the oil companies would go backrupt. I then started researching these products and was amazed what they put in them. My nose is very sensitive and so I have to stay away from anything that has a smell to it unless its natural. I think we are all different and need to keep trying different products and see what works for us and what we feel comfortable using. Sharing here helps everyone. hugs, Sandy
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5 rads-skin mets
Herceptin, taxol, carboplatin (taxol seem to be the magic drug)
Navelbine & xeloda (did not work)
topical miltex for skin mets
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Port removal (4 years) with power port replacement
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Old 02-20-2007, 07:21 PM   #11
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Rinaina,

I'm on Herceptin only and the tips of my fingers (especially index finger) and thumbs are also cracking. I attribute it to the Herceptin since that's all I'm taking.
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Stage IIIC Diagnosed Oct 25, 2005 (age 58)
ER/PR-, HER2+++, grade 3, Ploidy/DNA index: Aneuploid/1.61, S-phase: 24.2%
Neoadjunct chemo: 4 A/C; 4 Taxatore
Bilateral mastectomy June 8, 2006
14 of 26 nodes positive
Herceptin June 22, 2006 - April 20, 2007
Radiation (X35) July 24-September 11, 2006
BRCA1/BRCA2 negative
Stage IV lung mets July 13, 2007 - TCH
Single brain met - August 6, 2007 -CyberKnife
Oct 2007 - clear brain MRI and lung mets shrinking.
March 2008 lung met progression, brain still clear - begin Tykerb/Xeloda/Ixempra
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Old 02-21-2007, 03:33 PM   #12
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Thanks Jean for the compliment and for the recommendations. I agree with you Tousled about believing it must be the Herceptin since that is all we are on presently. Guess I better get busy and purchase the Zims crack cream and start using the Ahava lotion that I already have in the house. Thanks everyone for helping out once again. I am so grateful for all of you and this forum.
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