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Old 12-01-2009, 07:14 PM   #1
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T-DM1 News and Discussion

T-DM1 – The Good News
Roche/Genentech is expected to report data from a phase II trial of T-DM1 in HER2+ breast cancer, which account for 20-25% of breast cancer cases. The patient population in this study comprises patients who progressed on the two available HER2 treatments on the market, Roche’s Herceptin (first line) and GSK’s (GSK) Tykerb (second line). Therefore, this study is usually referred to as the “third line study”.
There is a lot of excitement around this trial following data from another phase II study which was presented several months ago at ASCO 2009. In that study, which included both second and third line patients, T-DM1 had a response rate of 23.9% and a disease control rate (percentage of patients who achieved an objective response or disease stabilization of at least 6 months) of 35.8%.
Because there are no approved drugs for third line patients, T-DM1 could be approved based on response rate (tumor shrinkage) in the third line study. Although there is no predefined response rate, nor there is any pre-existing agreement with the FDA, if T-DM1 demonstrates a response rate of ~25% or higher, it is expected to be approved by the FDA for third line patients only. If results at SABCS conference mirror the data set from ASCO 2009, an approval for third line setting is likely.
Another reason for optimism is what seems to be a broad consensus in favor of T-DM1 among the medical establishment in the US (Also in Europe, to some extent). The attractiveness of T-DM1 is obvious: Based on the available data, T-DM1 leads to a significant benefit in about a third of patients who have no treatment options left, it has a convenient dosing schedule (given every three weeks), it is extremely tolerable and the target population is well defined and already identified.
Before making the decision whether to approve a drug, the FDA usually asks the advice of a panel which includes experts in the relevant therapeutic area. Assuming the T-DM1 data is as good as expected, a panel of key opinion leaders in breast cancer will probably be very receptive towards T-DM1.
T-DM1 - The Bad News
The data at ASCO 2009 was not entirely positive, though. While results bode well for success in the third line trial, they raise doubts about another pivotal trial for T-DM1. In parallel to the third line study, Roche/Genentech is enrolling a phase III trial where T-DM1 is evaluated as a second line treatment. In contrast to the third line study, this trial is a randomized comparative study with Tykerb+Xeloda as the control arm. The primary endpoint is progression free survival (PFS), so in order to get approved, T-DM1 has to achieve at least comparable PFS to that achieved by Tykerb+Xeloda.
Based on the ASCO data, T-DM1 led to a PFS of 4.9 months in a mix of second and third line patients, which compares unfavorably to 6.2 months Tykerb+Xeloda had achieved in Tykerb’s registration trial. Bearing in mind that larger trials typically have lower efficacy, T-DM1 may be inferior to Tykerb+Xeloda in terms of PFS. Patients in the ongoing 2nd line phase III trial must have centrally confirmed HER2+ tumors, whereas some of the patients in the concluded phase II were HER2 negative based on a central lab test. This might work in favor of T-DM1 as it increases likelihood of response. On the other hand, the PFS of 6.2 months for Tykerb+Xeloda was achieved in a trial that did not require central HER2 confirmation as well. Consequently, the control arm (Tykerb+Xeloda) in the 2nd line T-DM1 trial might even do better than that, but to a lesser extent because Xeloda’s activity is not related to HER2 status.
Market opportunity for T-DM1
Based on the available data, T-DM1 is probably efficacious enough to get approval for 3rd line treatment based on response rate, but the PFS in second line patients seems inferior to that of standard of care. There is a chance to see T-DM1 approved based on a better safety profile and comparable efficacy with that of Tykerb+Xeloda, but it will take at least 3 years to get there. In the mean time, T-DM1 will be approved only for patients who progressed on Tykerb, which currently represent a relatively modest market opportunity.
Despite accounting for only ~25% of breast cancer cases, HER2+ breast cancer represents a huge commercial opportunity, as exemplified by Herceptin’s sales last year (over $4B). Nevertheless, most of Herceptin’s sales are for early stage breast cancer, while T-DM1 (if approved) will be given only to advanced stage patients. The immediate market opportunity in advanced HER2 breast cancer is therefore limited. GSK’s Tykerb, which is approved only for late stage treatment, had sales of $73M in the third quarter of 2009.

Allegedly, T-DM1’s immediate potential in 3rd line patients is even smaller than that of Tykerb, which is approved for 2nd line patients. Nevertheless, Tykerb’s sales probably under-represent T-DM1’s market potential as it has not been well received by physicians and patients.
Tykerb’s main disadvantage is its safety profile, which includes severe gastrointestinal toxicities (nausea, vomiting), especially when given in combination with Xeloda. This has deterred patients from taking the drug and often led to treatment discontinuations. In addition, Tykerb is given as a pill, which is more convenient to take compared to injectable drugs like Herceptin and T-DM1. But from a reimbursement point of view, this makes Tykerb more problematic and less commercially attractive to physicians to prescribe.
In contrast, T-DM1 looks like the ideal drug for late stage breast cancer:
  • It has an excellent safety profile.
  • It involves a convenient dosing schedule.
  • As an injectable, reimbursement is straightforward.
  • It will be given as a single agent, which might make it more cost-effective compared to a combination of Tykerb and Xeloda.

The main hurdle for T-DM1 will be the fact that it will first be approved only for patients who were previously treated with Tykerb. In other words, in order to get T-DM1 a patient will have to go through Tykerb, which suffers from low popularity among physicians and patients. Paradoxically, T-DM1’s approval might make physicians and patients more inclined to use Tykerb at the cost of side effects, even for a short period of time, in order to make patients eligible for T-DM1. As a result, it would not be surprising to see T-DM1 selling better than Tykerb even though the latter is approved for an earlier treatment line.


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Old 12-01-2009, 08:09 PM   #2
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great info, thanks Joe. Ceesun
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:40 PM   #3
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Thanks Joe... looks like the next thing in the pipeline for us 10th line patients. Hope they hurry and get it approved.
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JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

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Old 12-02-2009, 03:49 AM   #4
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Re: T-DM1 News and Discussion

Hi Joe
Thank you very much for the information. I wonder if you could help me with a query.As you know Tykerb has not been approved in England for a second time by NICE (despite our petition and lots of support)I am concerned therefore about how we would access T-DM1 as we would only have access to Xeloda on it's own.
I know there are some T-DM1 trials in England at present but cannot find any details at all, it's the usual British thing of closed doors!
Would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction
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Old 12-02-2009, 05:04 AM   #5
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Joe - Thank you for his clear explanation it's very helpful. I have renewed hope that t dm1 could be in my future. Pam
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Old 12-02-2009, 05:20 PM   #6
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Re: T-DM1 News and Discussion

Wow, this makes me glad I am on the Tykerb now....and its working!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but who knows for how long....hoping they get this drug approved!!!!
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