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04-13-2010, 12:10 AM
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Olive Oil
Can anyone tell me the nutritional differences between Extra Virgin Olive Oil and Extra Light Tasting Olive Oil? I been roasting vegtables in the oven lately that I season and toss in extra light oo. But if the EVOO is much more nutritious, I will switch.
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*** MARYANNE *** aka HARRIECANARIE
1993: right side DCIS, lumpectomy, rads
1999: left side DCIS, lumpectomy, rads, tamoxifen
2006:
BRCA 2 positive
Stage I, invasive DCIS (6mm x 5mm)
Grade: intermediate
sentinal node biopsy: neg
HER2/neu amplified 4.7
ER+/PR+
TOPO II neg
Oncotype dx 20
Bilat mastectomy with DIEP flap reconstruction
oophorectomy
2007:
6 cycles TCH (taxotere, carboplatin, herceptin)
finished 1 yr herceptin 05/07
Arimidex, stopped after almost 1 yr
Femara
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04-13-2010, 07:06 AM
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Re: Olive Oil
The EVOO is pressed and the other oil is extracted chemically, usually. So I should think the former is healthier. But it's just what I think, not what I know.
Love
Jacqueline
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Diagnosed age 44, January 2004, 0.7 cm IDC & DCIS. Stage 1, grade 3, ER/PR pos. HER2 pos. clear margins, no nodes. SNB. 35 rads. On Zoladex and Armidex since Dec. 2004. Stopped Zoladex/Arimidex sept 2009 Still taking mistletoe shots (CAM therapy) Doing fine.
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04-13-2010, 02:32 PM
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Re: Olive Oil
Some time back we had a really good discussion on the benefits of the higher quality olive oil. Can't find it, seems to be gone. Can't even find my old posts on it either.
Here is a great link to a very good (to my mind) explanation of the processing and what you get with each method:
http://www.living-foods.com/articles/oliveoil.html
The GIST of this long article is:
" Almost all olive oil is processed in ways that result in the loss of nutrients which are essential to health. "
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"These modem factories extract more oil more cheaply, but their processing methods substantially reduce the nutritional quality of the oil.
To reduce costs, olives are machine harvested along with leaves and twigs. Olives that have dropped on the ground, which can be said to contain bad oil, are often mixed with the good ones. They are shipped in all kinds of containers, many of which are poorly ventilated, and heaped in large piles where the olives are stored for too long and often become moldy. The oil is then extracted in a continuous centrifuge where hot water is used to help separate out the oil.
Antioxidant polyphenols are soluble in water and are washed away in this process, thereby lowering the shelf life and the nutritional quality of the oil. Italy alone produces 800,000 cubic meters of waste water per year from this process. Because substantial amounts of antioxidants are washed away, factory produced olive oils have a short shelf life of only months, whereas real olive oil lasts for two to three years. Factory produced olive oil is filtered and looks clear. Real olive oil is not filtered and looks cloudy. "
Then the last insult that has been uncovered is that the large olive oil "factories" have for years been cutting their OLIVE oil with cheap hazlenut oil from Turkey.
You get what you pay for. Buyer beware.
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Lumpectomy, then node dissection and port placement
Stage IIB, 8 pos nodes of 18, Grade 3, ER & PR -
Adriamycin 12 weekly, taxotere 4 rounds
36 rads - very little burning
3 mos after rads liver full of tumors, Stage IV Jan 2002, one spot on sternum
Weekly Taxol, Navelbine, Herceptin for 27 rounds to NED!
2003 & 2004 no active disease - 3 weekly Herceptin + Zometa
Jan 2005 two mets to brain - Gamma Knife on Jan 18
All clear until treated cerebellum spot showing activity on Jan 2006 brain MRI & brain PET
Brain surgery on Feb 9, 2006 - no cancer, 100% radiation necrosis - tumor was still dying
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2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava
2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec.
Dec 2008 - stop Herceptin - Vaccine Trial at U of W begun in Oct. of 2011
STILL NED everywhere in Feb 2014 - on wing & prayer
7/14 - Started twice yearly Zometa for my bones
Jan. 2015 checkup still shows NED
2015 Neuropathy in feet - otherwise all OK - still NED.
Same news for 2016 and all of 2017.
Nov of 2017 - had small skin cancer removed from my face. Will have Zometa end of Jan. 2018.
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04-13-2010, 09:05 PM
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Re: Olive Oil
I only use a good quality extra virgin olive oil. I wonder what Tanya thinks?
That is terrible about some companies mixing oils.
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04-14-2010, 07:47 PM
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Re: Olive Oil
Does anyone know a brand name for the good stuff?
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Age 47, TN, Diagnosed 05/09
Her2+, ER/PR-, Stage III, 2 tumors = 1 8cm tumor
Grade 3
Sentinel Node Biopsy-speck present in 1 node
Completed 3 month clinical trial of weekly Herceptin and 1000mg Tykerb daily
Tumor no longer present
Right mastectomy and lymph node removal 09/25/09
No cancer present at time of surgery, none in lymph nodes
Start TCH 10/15, every 3 weeks for 4 months followed by radiation
Finished chemo 01/28/10-YEAH!
Herceptin every 3 wks until end of June
Radiation begins 03/01, 6 1/2 weeks
Radiation complete--Yeah!!
Developed lymphedema after radiation
In hospital for 4 days with pneumonia:(
Herceptin done! 06/24/10
Port Removed 07/08/10
Still in PT for lymphedema and mobility issues
DIEP Reconstruction 05/11
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04-15-2010, 12:17 PM
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Re: Olive Oil
Yes - is there a "best" brand of evoo? I ususally just buy the supermarkets' generic (e.g.Safeway) brand - but I do always go for the Extra Virgin.
-Marianne
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4/2002 Diagnosed @ age 47: 1.8cm, 1+ve node (of 27)
Her2+++, ER-/PR-; 9/9 on Bloom-Rich. scale. "Poor prognosis" written after every result on my path. report!
ACx4, Taxolx4, finished 10/2002 and then 37 rads.
2004 - Clinical trial (vaccine) @ UW, Seattle
2007 - clinical trial Tykerb (on placebo?)
So far, so good!
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04-15-2010, 02:54 PM
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Location: Alaska
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Re: Olive Oil
I hesitate to recommend any brand, but will say that there was an excellent article in the last year or so about this in the Costco monthly magazine if you can locate it (ours is either under something or inside something here like almost everything else I once saw). Anyway, as a result of the depth of that article and its discussion about how they choose their olive oil, I bought mine at Costco, although I noticed the last time I did a barge load from Seattle I didn't see the same stuff there.... as a Costco "connosour" we have found that different Costcos carry different things so maybe some have it and some don't.
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04-15-2010, 03:08 PM
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Re: Olive Oil
Hi AA -
I know the article you mean, and it says that they have a "special" EVOO from a certain Italian estate and when that is gone they go back to another supplier until the next harvest from the "special" one.
There is a definite difference.
I get small farm produced olive oils from specialty stores. More expensive, but taste so much better and better for us.
Right now I have GIOLIO, which does have sediment and comes in a dark green liter size bottle. From around Florence, Italy.
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"When I hear music, I fear no danger. I am invulnerable. I see no foe. I am related to the earliest times, and to the latest." H.D. Thoreau
Live in the moment.
MY STORY SO FAR ~~~~
Found suspicious lump 9/2000
Lumpectomy, then node dissection and port placement
Stage IIB, 8 pos nodes of 18, Grade 3, ER & PR -
Adriamycin 12 weekly, taxotere 4 rounds
36 rads - very little burning
3 mos after rads liver full of tumors, Stage IV Jan 2002, one spot on sternum
Weekly Taxol, Navelbine, Herceptin for 27 rounds to NED!
2003 & 2004 no active disease - 3 weekly Herceptin + Zometa
Jan 2005 two mets to brain - Gamma Knife on Jan 18
All clear until treated cerebellum spot showing activity on Jan 2006 brain MRI & brain PET
Brain surgery on Feb 9, 2006 - no cancer, 100% radiation necrosis - tumor was still dying
Continue as NED while on Herceptin & quarterly Zometa
Fall-2006 - off Zometa - watching one small brain spot (scar?)
2007 - spot/scar in brain stable - finished anticoagulation therapy for clot along my port-a-catheter - 3 angioplasties to unblock vena cava
2008 - Brain and body still NED! Port removed and scans in Dec.
Dec 2008 - stop Herceptin - Vaccine Trial at U of W begun in Oct. of 2011
STILL NED everywhere in Feb 2014 - on wing & prayer
7/14 - Started twice yearly Zometa for my bones
Jan. 2015 checkup still shows NED
2015 Neuropathy in feet - otherwise all OK - still NED.
Same news for 2016 and all of 2017.
Nov of 2017 - had small skin cancer removed from my face. Will have Zometa end of Jan. 2018.
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04-15-2010, 09:22 PM
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Re: Olive Oil
The article was a good one, but I defer to you, Steph -- The oil I liked from them was "all natural" cold pressed Filippo Berio Organic EVOO in a dark green bottle and cloudy, packed in Italy with oils from Italy, Spain and Tunisia.
A.A.
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04-15-2010, 10:00 PM
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Re: Olive Oil
I know it's not terribly cheap, but this is where I plan to buy all my olive oil from starting next month (when my current bottle runs out). I will let you know how it is... local (central Texas), organic, EVOO.
http://www.texashillcountryoliveco.com/
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NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
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Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~ Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~ Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~ micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~ micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
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Aug'07~ MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
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Sept'08~ MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
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Oct'09~ 25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
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June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
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