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Old 01-23-2018, 04:56 PM   #15
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Re: Need input, KADCYLA or TAS116 or Pyrotinib?!

Honestly, could not breathe or think straight until I started talking on here. Paul, yes--I have met with an allergist and do have a desensitization protocol. My onc is fine with me doing Kadcyla/TDM1 OR that TAS116. The TAS trial doc said she was "nervous" about my sensitivity to herceptin. Okay, well, I'm nervous about everything every day. That's how it is with cancer drugs.

The more I sit with the TAS116 info, plus so much online feedback in support of KADCYCLA, it makes the most sense to me to pass on the TAS116. It just doesn't seem "do-able" with such high side effects reported.

As Laurel put it, better to face "the devil you know". Kadcyla is an FDA approved drug that stands an excellent chance of working, and of allowing me to continue with a good QOL for a couple more years or at least this year. The biggest drawback will be the 6+ hour infusion, along with premeds and whatever reaction they all may give me. (Paul, do you think it is possible, on the other hand, that such a slow infusion rate will mitigate side effects since it's my personal belief that infusing slowly helps us greatly and infusing quickly is how you follow the money? Meaning, Herceptin over 30 minutes allows a chair turn a lot faster than Herceptin over 2 hours, or Kadcyla over 6! Hopefully they are not trying to dissuade me for that reason!!)

I have found an interesting ORAL HER2 trial, using Pyrotinib, info pasted at end of this post. I've reached out to the doctor and will see what I get back. It's more similar to tykerb I believe, so not sure if it alone will help, or if I'll have to add in xeloda, which as we all know, is a buzz kill.

Lastly, stumbled across an amazing blog called theStormRiders.org with highlights from San Antonio. The author is also HER2+ so gives a good amount of focus to info on HER2, which is how I found Pyrotinib.

Here's that link: https://thestormriders.org/2018/01/1...17-highlights/

I have one more consult, 2nd opinion, on 1/31 and am hoping he'll have a magic lens on and will see something about my case that makes sense, and will guide me in what to do or not do. I'll update if, when...

With tons of gratitude,
Flori



Pyrotinib
Pyrotinib (HTI-1001) is a novel, irreversible dual EGFR/HER2 tyrosine kinase inhibitor with unique mechanism of action and good oral bioavailability. Dysregulation of HER2 by amplification and overexpression contributes to tumor development, progression , invasion and poor clinical prognosis. For example, such dysregulation occurrs in 10-30% of breast cancers,6% of colorectal cancers,15-25% of gastric cancers ,15-39% oesophageal cancer and 5-19% of epithelial ovarian cancer.

Hengrui Therapeutics, INC (HTI) is conducting a comprehensive development program in US for Pyrotinib for the treatment of patients with HER2 positive solid tumors, including, but not limited to, breast, gastric and colorectal cancers.

A two-part phase I, open label, dose escalation study for Pyrotinib are underway in the US in patients whose disease progressed on prior HER2 targeted therapies. There are also five phase I trials and one phase I/II study being conducted in China.

In early clinical development (Phase I in China), Pyrotinib as a single agent has demonstrated meaningful clinical benefit (increase in ORR and DCR) and is well tolerated in patients with HER2-positive metastatic breast cancer and advanced gastric cancer. These early clinical activities warrant further clinical investigation for pyrotinib’s potential to benefit HER2-positive patients, especially those who are resistant to or experience disease progression on prior target therapies.

Hengrui Therapeutics, INC (HTI) holds global development and commercialization rights of Pyrotinib, except for in the Greater China region.

Information on Pyrotinib clinical studies can be found in clinicaltrials.gov (NCT02500199).
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1996 cancer WTF?! 1.3 cm lumpectomy Er/Pr neg. Her2+ (20nodes NEGATIVE) did CMF + rads. NED.
2002 recurrence. Bilateral mastectomy w/TFL autologous recon. Then ACx2. Skin lymphatic rash. Taxotere w/Herceptin x4. Herceptin/Xeloda. Finally stops spreading.
2003 - Back to surgery, remove skin mets, and will have surgery one week later when pathology can confirm margins.
‘03 latisimus dorsi flap to remove skin mets. CLEAN MARGINS. Continue single agent Herceptin thru 4/04. NED.
‘04 '05 & 06 tiny recurrences - scar line. surgery to cut out. NED each time.
1/2006 Rads again, to scar line. NED.

3/07 Heartbreaking news - mets! lungs.sternum. Try Tykerb/Xeloda. Tykerb/Carbo/Gemzar. Switch Oncs.
12/07 Herceptin.Tykerb. Markers go stable.
2/8/08 gamma knife 13mm stupid brain met.
3/08 Herceptin/tykerb/avastin/zometa.
3/09 brain NED. Lungs STABLE.
4/09 attack sternum (10 daysPHOTONS.5 days ELECTRONS)
9/09 MARKERS normal!
3/10 PET/CT=manubrium intensely metabolically active but stable. NEDhead.
Wash out 5/10 for tdm1 but 6/10 CT STABLE, PET improving. Markers normal. Brain NED. Resume just Herceptin plus ZOMETA
Dec 2010 Brain NED, lungs/sternum stable. markers normal.
MAR 2011 stop Herceptin/allergy! Go back on Tykerb and switch to Xgeva.
May-Aug 2011 Tykerb Herceptin Xgeva.
Sept 2011 Tykerb, Herceptin, Zometa, Avastin.
April 2012 sketchy drug trial in NYC. 6 weeks later I’m NED!
OCT 2012 PET/CT shows a bunch of freakin’ progression. Back to LA and Herceptin.avastin.zometa.
12/20/12 add in PERJETA!
March 2013 – 5 YEARS POST continue HAPZ
APRIL 2013 - 6 yrs stage 4. "FAILED" PETscan on 4/2/13
May 2013: rePetted - improvement in lungs, left adrenal stable, right 6th rib inactive, (must be PERJETA avastin) sternum and L1 fruckin'worsen. Drop zometa. ADD Xgeva. Doc says get rads consultant for L1 and possible biopsy of L1. I say, no thanks, doc. Lets see what xgeva brings to the table first. It's summer.
June-August 2013HAPX Herceptin Avastin Perjeta xgeva.
Sept - now - on chemo hold for calming tummy we hope. Markers stable for 2 months.
Nov 2013 - Herceptin-Perjeta-Avastin-Xgeva (collageneous colitis, which explains tummy probs, added Entocort)
December '13 BRAIN MRI ned in da head.
Jan 2014: CONTINUING on HAPX…
FEB 2014 PetCT clinical “impression”: 1. newbie nodule - SUV 1.5 right apical nodule, mildly hypermetabolic “suggestive” of worsening neoplastic lesion. 2. moderate worsening of the sternum – SUV 5.6 from 3.8
3. increasing sclerosis & decreasing activity of L1 met “suggests” mild healing. (SUV 9.4 v 12.1 in May ‘13)
4. scattered lung nodules, up to 5mm in size = stable, no increased activity
5. other small scattered sclerotic lesions, one in right iliac and one in thoracic vertebral body similar in appearance to L1 without PET activity and not clearly pathologic
APRIL 2014 - 6 YRS POST GAMMA ZAP, 7 YRS MBC & 18 YEARS FROM ORIGINAL DX!
October 2014: hold avastin, continue HPX
Feb 2015 Cancer you lost. NEDHEAD 7 years post gamma zap miracle, 8 years ST4, +19 yrs original diagnosis.
Continue HPX. Adding back Avastin
Nov 2015 pet/ct is mixed result. L1 SUV is worse. Continue Herceptin/avastin/xgeva. Might revisit Perjeta for L1. Meantime going for rads consult for L1
December 2015 - brain stable. Continue Herceptin, Perjeta, Avastin and xgeva.
Jan 2016: 5 days, 20 grays, Rads to L1 and continue on HAPX. I’m trying to "save" TDM1 for next line. Hope the rads work to quiet L1. Sciatic pain extraordinaire :((
Markers drop post rads.
2/24/16 HAP plus X - markers are down
SCIATIC PAIN DEAL BREAKER.
3/23/16 Laminectomy w/coflex implant L4/5. NO MORE SCIATIC PAIN!!! Healing.
APRIL 2016 - 9 YRS MBC
July 2016 - continue HAP plus Xgeva.
DEC 2016 - PETCT: mets to sternum, lungs, L1 still about the same in size and PET activity. Markers not bad. Not making changes if I don't need to. Herceptin/Perjeta/Avastin/Xgeva
APRIL 2017 10 YEARS MBC
December 2017 - Progression - gonna switch it up
FEB 2018 - Kadcyla 3 cycles ---->progression :(
MAY30th - bronchoscopy, w/foundation1 - her2 enriched
Aug 27, 2018 - start clinical trial ZW25
JAN 2019 - ZW25 seems to be keeping me stable
APRIL 2019 - ONE DOZEN YEARS LIVING METASTATIC
MAY 2019 - progression back on herceptin add xeloda
JUNE 2019 - "6 mos average survival" LMD & CNS new single brain met - one zap during 5 days true beam SBRT to cord met
10/30/19 - stable brain and cord. progression lungs and bones. washing out. applying for ds8201a w nivolumab. hope they take me.
12/27/19 - begin ds8401a w nivolumab. after 2nd cycle nodes melt away. after 3rd cycle chest scan shows Improvement, brain MRI shows improvement, resolved areas & nothing new. switch to plain ENHERTU. after 4th cycle, PETscan shows mostly resolved or improved results. Markers near normal. I'm stunned but grateful.
10/26/20 - June 2021 Tucatinib/xeloda/herceptin - stable ish.
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