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Old 01-18-2018, 12:05 AM   #1
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Unhappy Need input, KADCYLA or TAS116?

I have to change my protocol, between progression and allergy to herceptin. I am trying to decide between a clinical trial for TAS116, and KADCYLA.

TAS116, is an oral anti heat shock protein that has an affinity for HER2+ cancer, and I have an old tumor assay that shows I am a good candidate for a HSP target. The "PRO" is it's oral, local, and they have an opening, it's a phase 1 but they have the dosing figured out, HSP have been around, and they just added space to the trial, so that says the early results are not killing anyone and might be helping. The "CONS" are the side effects; nausea, fatigue, loss of appetite, etc., the list goes on and on. First up on the severe list is a vision problem, which my onc said I focused on and stopped hearing more. I beg to differ. The trial investigator brought it up and risk to VISION is not something I can ignore. The problems are not blindness, and they resolve once the meds are stopped, but, clinical trial and all - there's still RISK! SUPER Hard to predict which would affect me and to what degree.

My onc. thinks I should try the clinical trial, saying Kadcyla is available if I need it, but the trial will be closed soon, it's an opportunity and the trial doc says she thinks it's good, etc. I feel like they are both trying to sell me a car.

I always thought I'd do KADCYLA next, but it is not without side effects, and again, don't know how it would affect me. The PROS are it's KADCYLA and stands a very good chance of working for me!! The CONS are my allergy to herceptin, which will mean pre-meds and a 6-7 hour infusion time for KADCYLA. Plus whatever the drug side effects.

There are no good answers, and I am having a hard time right now. The more pressure and judged I feel (by my doc, family, friends) the more depressed I become. The more I feel like I "should be more grateful" the more sad I feel. Every time I read of someone dying, it triggers grief, fear and anger. I'm a mess for someone who is supposed to be a pro at this game. I need to make a decision and none of it sounds good. At all.

What am I not seeing?!
Feel free to give opinions and advice...

NCT02965885 - clinical trial info, FYI:
Brief Summary:
A First-in-Human (FIH) study of TAS-116 in patients with advanced solid tumors was first initiated in Japan in April 2014 and has been ongoing since then. The study consists of a dose escalation phase and a dose expansion phase. Three dosing regimens of TAS-116, once daily (QD), every other day (QOD) and 5 days on/2 days off regimens in 21-day cycles, are being evaluated. This phase I study is also planned to enrol with advanced solid tumors in UK to confirm the MTD, safety, tolerability, and pharmacokinetics of TAS-116 in a Western patient population in the dose expansion phase. In addition, patients with HER2+ MBC, NSCLC harbouring EGFR mutations (EGFRT790M+) or EGFR mutations (T790M-) will be further evaluated for safety, tolerability and efficacy in 3 separate cohorts at recommended dose of TAS-116 on the 5 days on/2 days off regimen.
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1996 cancer WTF?! 1.3 cm lumpectomy Er/Pr neg. Her2+ (20nodes NEGATIVE) did CMF + rads. NED.
2002 recurrence. Bilateral mastectomy w/TFL autologous recon. Then ACx2. Skin lymphatic rash. Taxotere w/Herceptin x4. Herceptin/Xeloda. Finally stops spreading.
2003 - Back to surgery, remove skin mets, and will have surgery one week later when pathology can confirm margins.
‘03 latisimus dorsi flap to remove skin mets. CLEAN MARGINS. Continue single agent Herceptin thru 4/04. NED.
‘04 '05 & 06 tiny recurrences - scar line. surgery to cut out. NED each time.
1/2006 Rads again, to scar line. NED.

3/07 Heartbreaking news - mets! lungs.sternum. Try Tykerb/Xeloda. Tykerb/Carbo/Gemzar. Switch Oncs.
12/07 Herceptin.Tykerb. Markers go stable.
2/8/08 gamma knife 13mm stupid brain met.
3/08 Herceptin/tykerb/avastin/zometa.
3/09 brain NED. Lungs STABLE.
4/09 attack sternum (10 daysPHOTONS.5 days ELECTRONS)
9/09 MARKERS normal!
3/10 PET/CT=manubrium intensely metabolically active but stable. NEDhead.
Wash out 5/10 for tdm1 but 6/10 CT STABLE, PET improving. Markers normal. Brain NED. Resume just Herceptin plus ZOMETA
Dec 2010 Brain NED, lungs/sternum stable. markers normal.
MAR 2011 stop Herceptin/allergy! Go back on Tykerb and switch to Xgeva.
May-Aug 2011 Tykerb Herceptin Xgeva.
Sept 2011 Tykerb, Herceptin, Zometa, Avastin.
April 2012 sketchy drug trial in NYC. 6 weeks later I’m NED!
OCT 2012 PET/CT shows a bunch of freakin’ progression. Back to LA and Herceptin.avastin.zometa.
12/20/12 add in PERJETA!
March 2013 – 5 YEARS POST continue HAPZ
APRIL 2013 - 6 yrs stage 4. "FAILED" PETscan on 4/2/13
May 2013: rePetted - improvement in lungs, left adrenal stable, right 6th rib inactive, (must be PERJETA avastin) sternum and L1 fruckin'worsen. Drop zometa. ADD Xgeva. Doc says get rads consultant for L1 and possible biopsy of L1. I say, no thanks, doc. Lets see what xgeva brings to the table first. It's summer.
June-August 2013HAPX Herceptin Avastin Perjeta xgeva.
Sept - now - on chemo hold for calming tummy we hope. Markers stable for 2 months.
Nov 2013 - Herceptin-Perjeta-Avastin-Xgeva (collageneous colitis, which explains tummy probs, added Entocort)
December '13 BRAIN MRI ned in da head.
Jan 2014: CONTINUING on HAPX…
FEB 2014 PetCT clinical “impression”: 1. newbie nodule - SUV 1.5 right apical nodule, mildly hypermetabolic “suggestive” of worsening neoplastic lesion. 2. moderate worsening of the sternum – SUV 5.6 from 3.8
3. increasing sclerosis & decreasing activity of L1 met “suggests” mild healing. (SUV 9.4 v 12.1 in May ‘13)
4. scattered lung nodules, up to 5mm in size = stable, no increased activity
5. other small scattered sclerotic lesions, one in right iliac and one in thoracic vertebral body similar in appearance to L1 without PET activity and not clearly pathologic
APRIL 2014 - 6 YRS POST GAMMA ZAP, 7 YRS MBC & 18 YEARS FROM ORIGINAL DX!
October 2014: hold avastin, continue HPX
Feb 2015 Cancer you lost. NEDHEAD 7 years post gamma zap miracle, 8 years ST4, +19 yrs original diagnosis.
Continue HPX. Adding back Avastin
Nov 2015 pet/ct is mixed result. L1 SUV is worse. Continue Herceptin/avastin/xgeva. Might revisit Perjeta for L1. Meantime going for rads consult for L1
December 2015 - brain stable. Continue Herceptin, Perjeta, Avastin and xgeva.
Jan 2016: 5 days, 20 grays, Rads to L1 and continue on HAPX. I’m trying to "save" TDM1 for next line. Hope the rads work to quiet L1. Sciatic pain extraordinaire :((
Markers drop post rads.
2/24/16 HAP plus X - markers are down
SCIATIC PAIN DEAL BREAKER.
3/23/16 Laminectomy w/coflex implant L4/5. NO MORE SCIATIC PAIN!!! Healing.
APRIL 2016 - 9 YRS MBC
July 2016 - continue HAP plus Xgeva.
DEC 2016 - PETCT: mets to sternum, lungs, L1 still about the same in size and PET activity. Markers not bad. Not making changes if I don't need to. Herceptin/Perjeta/Avastin/Xgeva
APRIL 2017 10 YEARS MBC
December 2017 - Progression - gonna switch it up
FEB 2018 - Kadcyla 3 cycles ---->progression :(
MAY30th - bronchoscopy, w/foundation1 - her2 enriched
Aug 27, 2018 - start clinical trial ZW25
JAN 2019 - ZW25 seems to be keeping me stable
APRIL 2019 - ONE DOZEN YEARS LIVING METASTATIC
MAY 2019 - progression back on herceptin add xeloda
JUNE 2019 - "6 mos average survival" LMD & CNS new single brain met - one zap during 5 days true beam SBRT to cord met
10/30/19 - stable brain and cord. progression lungs and bones. washing out. applying for ds8201a w nivolumab. hope they take me.
12/27/19 - begin ds8401a w nivolumab. after 2nd cycle nodes melt away. after 3rd cycle chest scan shows Improvement, brain MRI shows improvement, resolved areas & nothing new. switch to plain ENHERTU. after 4th cycle, PETscan shows mostly resolved or improved results. Markers near normal. I'm stunned but grateful.
10/26/20 - June 2021 Tucatinib/xeloda/herceptin - stable ish.
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