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Old 04-28-2009, 04:05 PM   #5
hutchibk
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One thing to know is that there is more than one type of machine that can run TMs. My clinic has two different machines, and they are calibrated differently. So there is a differential in the results. My current TMs that recently came back as a 2 - would have in the past been at apx a 7 or 8 on the other machine. My doctor and I don't know why they on occasion get run on opposing machines, but he always discerns which one they are using and translates it for me. The first time I noticed a big difference in the number, he told me not to worry as it was calibrated differently and translated to an equal result. Be sure and ask if your last one was run on a different machine...

When I was NED, we did mine every 3 months, not 6 months. Now that I am a mets girl, we do them about every month.

I am guessing my onc would say to check again in a month/6 weeks or so, and again at the same interval after that. If they continue to inch up, even within normal range, he would order PET and scans, including brain MRI. It's not so much that you are remaining in normal range, but if there are continuous incremental increases over 3 or more labs. That might indicate new activity. Anytime my TMs (CA15.3) have increased over 3 or more subsequent lab draws, it has always revealed very early new activity which has then always been confirmed with scans. We definitely pay close attention to mine and give them due respect.

Don't let yourself get worked up until you have seen at least 3 subsequent labs (personally, I would prefer it in a closer period of time) that show increases. TMs can bounce up and down without any real explanation...

For some people they aren't meaningful at all, and for some like me, they are very predictive, in the context of the big picture. Mine have never steered us wrong, though they might not always be as accurate for me as they have been up til now.
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NOV 2012 - 9 yr anniversary
JULY 2012 - 7 yr anniversary stage IV (of 50...)

Nov'03~ dX stage 2B
Dec'03~
Rt side mastectomy, Her2+, ER/PR+, 10 nodes out, one node positive
Jan'04~
Taxotere/Adria/Cytoxan x 6, NED, no Rads, Tamox. 1 year, Arimadex 3 mo., NED 14 mo.
Sept'05~
micro mets lungs/chest nodes/underarm node, Switched to Aromasin, T/C/H x 7, NED 6 months - Herceptin only
Aug'06~
micro mets chest nodes, & bone spot @ C3 neck, Added Taxol to Herceptin
Feb'07~ Genetic testing, BRCA 1&2 neg

Apr'07~
MRI - two 9mm brain mets & 5 punctates, new left chest met, & small increase of bone spot C3 neck, Stopped Aromasin
May'07~
Started Tykerb/Xeloda, no WBR for now
June'07~
MRI - stable brain mets, no new mets, 9mm spots less enhanced, CA15.3 down 45.5 to 9.3 in 10 wks, Ty/Xel working magic!
Aug'07~
MRI - brain mets shrunk half, NO NEW BRAIN METS!!, TMs stable @ 9.2
Oct'07~
PET/CT & MRI show NED
Apr'08~
scans still show NED in the head, small bone spot on right iliac crest (rear pelvic bone)
Sept'08~
MRI shows activity in brain mets, completed 5 fractions/5 consecutive days of IMRT to zap the pesky buggers
Oct'08~
dropped Xeloda, switched to tri-weekly Herceptin in combo with Tykerb, extend to tri-monthly Zometa infusion
Dec'08~
Brain MRI- 4 spots reduced to punctate size, large spot shrunk by 3mm, CT of torso clear/pelvis spot stable
June'09~
new 3-4mm left cerrebellar spot zapped with IMRT targeted rads
Sept'09~
new 6mm & 1 cm spots in pituitary/optic chiasm area. Rx= 25 days of 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the tumors.
Oct'09~
25 days of low dose 3D conformal fractionated targeted IMRT to the bone mets spot on rt. iliac crest that have been watching for 2 years. Added daily Aromasin back into treatment regimen.
Apr'10~ Brain MRI clear! But, see new small spot on adrenal gland. Change from Aromasin back to Tamoxifen.
June'10~ Tumor markers (CA15.3) dropped from 37 to 23 after one month on Tamoxifen. Continue to monitor adrenal gland spot. Remain on Tykerb/Herceptin/Tamoxifen.
Nov'10~ Radiate positive mediastinal node that was pressing on recurrent laryngeal nerve, causing paralyzed larynx and a funny voice.
Jan'11~ MRI shows possible activity or perhaps just scar tissue/necrotic increase on 3 previously treated brain spots and a pituitary spot. 5 days of IMRT on 4 spots.
Feb'11~ Enrolled in T-DM1 EAP in Denver, first treatment March 25, 2011.
Mar'11~ Finally started T-DM1 EAP in Denver at Rocky Mountain Cancer Center/Rose on Mar. 25... hallelujah.

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