Al, I'm sorry to have gotten you so riled up! I agree, we need to keep all this in perspective and I personally would much rather take my chances WITH Herceptin than without it. But I'm also interested in the autoimmune connection as some of us have to deal with these pesky symptoms that seem to be related; runny noses, achey joints and muscles, rashes, the heart issue, etc. Remember, knowledge is power
<3 Lolly