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Julie2 03-08-2010 10:41 AM

insomnia
 
I am not able to sleep during the night, sometimes I go with out sleep the whole night. Anybody has any solutions for this.

Thanks,
Julie

WolverineFan 03-08-2010 11:31 AM

Re: insomnia
 
I used to be a very sound sleeper, but not anymore. I tried everything I could think of, with no luck. My onc prescribed a light sleeping pill (15 mg of Restorill) and that has done the trick for me. I still don't sleep like I used to, but it certainly is better, and the dosage is about half of the typical dose.

caya 03-08-2010 08:07 PM

Re: insomnia
 
Same here Julie. I take Imovane - there are 2 doses - 5 mg. and 7.5 mg. I usually take one or the other. My docs don't mind that I have been on them more or less for about 5 years now ( I had other issues before B.C.).
You need your rest. Don't be afraid to ask your onc. or G.P. for meds.

all the best
caya

Yorkiegirl 03-08-2010 08:30 PM

Re: insomnia
 
I as well have found that I don't sleep well since my DX in 2005.
I only get about 3 hours of sleep a night. I don't want to have to take sleeping pills for thsi as I don't want to get addicted.
I guess I have just become so used to it. The only time I get a good sleep is if I'm sick and not feeling good.

Margerie 03-08-2010 09:10 PM

Re: insomnia
 
I also have terrible insomnia, started during chemo. I take melatonin + either Benadryl or Unisom (another OTC anti-histamine that causes drowsiness) and that works really well for me. It is the truth when I say that if I did not take this combo, I would not sleep a wink, ever! Trust me, I have tried.

I had no luck with any of the sleeping pills, and did not want to take them long term anyway. I am going 4 years strong with this insomnia, so I don't think it is going away anytime soon :O

Tell your doctor and find out your options. I found a naturopath doc and he was the one who helped me find the right supplements to help me sleep.

Sheila 03-10-2010 07:18 AM

Re: insomnia
 
Julie
I have had problems during this journey also....my onc. ordered Ambien, but I have never taken it....don't want to take the chance of "getting hooked" on it....funny I should be frightened by a sleeping pill, but let them pump chemo agents in my veins without a blink!
I have found that AdvilPM (contains more Benedryl) works the best...i take 2 tabs about 1 hour before bedtime....no groggies the next day either!
Hope this helps

jhandley 03-10-2010 09:13 PM

Re: insomnia
 
You might have adrenal fatigue. Insomnia is one of the symptoms and bc is very stressful so adrenals can just get exhausted. You can get saliva tests for cortisol or see a good naturopath like I did. It helps.
Cheers
jackie (down under)

vlcarr 03-10-2010 09:42 PM

Re: insomnia
 
I've had the same problem since diagnosis and seemed to get worse during chemo. I'm taken Ambien and Lunesta. I don't have right now but think I'm going to have to ask for refills......

BMW2 04-04-2010 10:33 AM

Re: insomnia
 
Hi: Can anyone tell me how much Melatonin to use? I use Melatonin (usually 6mg), sometimes Simply Sleep and sometimes Restoril 7.5mg. I would like to stick to Melatonin because I have heard it helps with breast cancer, but because it is a hormone I'm concerned.

Rich66 04-04-2010 10:51 AM

Re: insomnia
 
Cancer treatment has been shown to mess with sleep even after it's completed.
A number of studies have used 20mg of Melatonin. Some suggest ramping up to that dosage. It might not be wise to combine that with sleep meds.
There's a fair amount to suggest "sleep hygiene" routines can help: Excercise earlier in day/get sunlight, lower the overall lighting in hours before going to bed in absolute darkness etc. I find lavender drops on the top blanket help me relax.

BMW2 04-04-2010 10:56 AM

Re: insomnia
 
Thanks Rich66. I do all the sleep hygiene stuff and more. I think I'll try uping the Melatonin on a gradual basis to see if it helps.

juanita 04-04-2010 11:21 AM

Re: insomnia
 
i used the melatonin after my insurance compnay decided i didn't need what the doctor perscribed anymore. and i couldn't take the tylenol pm because benadryl makes my restless legs worse. make sure you check with your doctor on any of it.

BMW2 04-04-2010 01:08 PM

Re: insomnia
 
Juanita:

Thanks I always check with the oncologist, but he always says"sure you can take that." But never says how much. I've checked a naturalpathic doctor and she recommended 20 milligrams. I know that's is what I've seen recommended for breast cancer patients.
How many milligrams do you take and does it help?

Jackie07 04-04-2010 04:43 PM

Re: insomnia
 
Found the following links and thought might be helpful. There are two types of melatonin - one derived from animal and the other synthetically made.

http://familydoctor.org/online/famdo...interview.html

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...melatonin.html



I've had sleeping problem all my life due to the brain tumor(s). Once I had the tumor removed, I slept well and my skin improved. Now that two of the three residue tumors are enlarged in their sizes, I guess my very sensitive, twice injured brain just can't handle it. Sleep aids wouldn't work for me since my problem is more 'physical' than 'chemical'.

Found this other link regarding DSPS - perhaps this is what I have. Alright! I am going to pursue a career in medical transcription...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed...phase_syndrome

mrsd 04-04-2010 05:00 PM

Re: insomnia
 
Julie I too have had diffficulty with sleep... and knowing that we really need our rest only seems to make it worse. I started taken 2mg of Ativan at night... not sure how much it helps but I do sleep and feel rested when I wake.

juanita 04-04-2010 08:04 PM

Re: insomnia
 
i started with a higher dose of the melatonin, think maybe 15 mg but now only take 3-6 mg. hopefully i can sleep eventually.

harrie 04-04-2010 10:42 PM

Re: insomnia
 
I like to take children's liquid benedryl. 1/2 a tsp usually does it and at the most, I would take 1 tsp.
That is the ingredient in more OTC sleep aids.

Midwest Alice 04-05-2010 11:31 AM

Re: insomnia
 
I have had sleeping problems so my onc put me on ambienxr. I sleep so well and am rested. I work full time and have a normal life with join pains. I have been on it for two years with no plans to get off. I need my rest :)

BMW2 04-05-2010 12:04 PM

Re: insomnia
 
Hi: The children's liquid benedryl sounds like it might be something to try. I have 0.5mg ativan, but I don't like to use something that I may get hooked on. Also, I'm so unsure about the higher doses of Melatonin.

Thanks ladies.

Bill 04-05-2010 08:03 PM

Re: insomnia
 
I happen to know an older gentleman that had some trouble sleeping as he aged. He had no personal history or diagnosis of cancer. He went to a good doctor who recommended cutting back on his caffeine and sugar intake, modifying his diet to include more fruits and veggies, and less meat, and eat earlier in the evening. Also, the doctor recommended daily yoga exercises. Over a period of a few weeks/months he made those lifestyle changes and now he sleeps like a baby. I'd like to recommend the book "You, Staying Young", by Drs. Roizen and Oz. There is a wealth of information in this book, including sleep-related issues. Me, I just eat lightly at night and take half an Ambien.


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