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SpitFire 11-16-2015 01:45 AM

Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
I was told that because I had the Sentinel Node Biopsy (2 nodes), that I had No risk of lymphedema. I was told that I had No restrictions and that I could get my blood pressure and blood drawn on my affected arm.

Is this correct information?

Lucy 11-16-2015 02:27 AM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
I was told the same thing and have had my blood pressure and blood drawn on the affected side and had no problem. However, I will typically ask to have both done on the unaffected side now, just to be on the safe side.

Debbie L. 11-16-2015 08:55 AM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
I think it would be more accurate to say that after SLNB your risk of lymphedema is lower. Even to say it's "very low". But probably not zero.

If you google "sentinel lymph node biopsy lymphedema", you'll see many discussions of this. Here's a copy/paste from part of an article at breastcancer.org:


"If you’ve had lymph node surgery and/or radiation therapy, you’re considered to be at some risk for lymphedema. How high your risk is depends on whether you have any other risk factors for the condition, outlined below. Some lymphedema risk factors are under your control and others aren’t — but knowing about them can help you gauge your risk level. You can talk about your situation with a physician, nurse, or therapist who specializes in breast cancer recovery and lymphedema management.

If there’s every reason to believe you are low risk, that’s good news! But it also doesn’t mean you are “zero risk.” You’ll still want to take precautions for avoiding lymphedema and get help quickly if you notice any signs or symptoms. If you have multiple risk factors, these actions become even more critical.
“In the treatment community, we’re talking more about the importance of developing a risk profile for every patient,” says Nicole Stout, MPT, CLT-LANA, Senior Rehabilitative Services Practice Leader at Kaiser Permanente, Mid Atlantic Region. “We must identify women at high risk and monitor them a little more closely for signs and symptoms and complications of lymphedema. But we also have to realize there will always be those ‘outliers’ who appear to be low risk but still develop lymphedema.”


Risk factors for lymphedema include:
  • Having more lymph nodes removed: Research shows that having more underarm lymph nodes removed increases lymphedema risk. Axillary lymph node dissection (ALND), the procedure that removes many or most of the nodes (typically anywhere from 5 to 30), is associated with higher risk than sentinel lymph node biopsy (SLNB).

    According to the National Cancer Institute, anywhere from 5-17% of women who have SLNB develop lymphedema. Among women who have ALND, the percentage is higher — from 20-53% — and risk increases with the number of nodes taken out. Whether you had SLNB or ALND, be sure to ask your surgeon how many lymph nodes you had removed, as this varies from person to person."

jaykay 11-16-2015 10:55 AM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
After my left lumpectomy and SNB in 2000, I used my right arm for blood pressure and blood draw all the time. Then I had a new primary on my right side, had a SNB and had my lymphs radiated. Higher risk for lymphedema because of the radiation so starting using my left arm for blood draw and blood pressure.

If you can use your other arm, you should

Janis

SpitFire 11-16-2015 01:14 PM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
Thanks! I will use my other arm for blood draws and blood pressure from now on. My left arm has always felt like it is slightly asleep ever since I had my SNB surgery, but other than that, I don't have any swelling that I can see.

I also like to lift heavy weights. And I love my hot sauna in winter. I guess that I can keep doing those things? Is it possible that I could just wake up one day with a swelled up arm?

jaykay 11-16-2015 01:39 PM

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Weights are not a problem but I think sauna is. I was told by my radiation oncologist not to do any kind of sauna. Check with your doctor

SpitFire 11-17-2015 07:38 AM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
No sauna is a HUGE problem for me! If I haven't had any problems other than the slight falling asleep feeling since my SNB, then I should be fine, right?

If I were to get lymphedema, I would have it by now. My surgeon said that the beauty of SNB is that the risk of lymphedema is a thing of the past.

Becky 11-17-2015 04:57 PM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
Lymphedema can happen anytime. Even 10-20 years from now.

jaykay 11-17-2015 05:20 PM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
Were your lymph nodes within the radiation field? You should find out. You may also want to set up an appointment with a lymphedema specialist just for a consult. They are very helpful and will take initial measurements of your arms and advise on the risks.

Nothing against your surgeon, but better to be safe. Insurance will pay for the lymphedema consult

SpitFire 11-18-2015 04:41 PM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
How do you know if your lymph nodes were in the radiation field? I had 1 out of 2 nodes positive Largest focus is 5mm having no extracapsular extension present. This was my radiation treatment:
Left breast + regional nodal radiation therapy: 4680 cGy/26 fractions
Lumpectomy boost: 1260 cGy/ 7 fractions

My breast surgeon's nurse took my blood pressure from my left arm. They told me there was NO chance of lymphedema. He is no longer my doctor.

jaykay 11-18-2015 06:55 PM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
You need to ask your radiation oncologist that question.

SpitFire 11-18-2015 07:03 PM

Re: Sentinel Node Biopsy and Lymphedema Risk
 
Thanks jayKay


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