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RhondaH 01-07-2007 07:12 AM

The Breast Cancer Diet (with checklist)
 
http://www.prevention.com/article/0,...-270-1,00.html

http://www.cancerrd.com/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in665856.shtml

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0410084755.htm

http://www.her2support.org/vbulletin...hlight=Sichuan

I TRIED to do an attachment, but was unsuccessfull...sorry.

Breast Cancer Diet

[][](P[])([][][]) whole grain foods (brown rice, bulgur, wheat berries, whole grain bagels, breads, cereals, crackers, tortillas, pasta)

[]([]) beans (chickpeas)

[][][][][][](P[][][]) fruits and vegetables

*Cruciferous veggies (broccoli, broccoli sprouts, brussel sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower)[]

*Lycopene-rich produce (tomatoes, red grapefruit, watermelon, guava)[]

*Beta-carotene-rich produce (winter squash, carrots, sweet potatoes)P[]


*Citrus fruit (oranges (juice), grapefruit)P[]

*Berries (strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, blueberries)P[]

*Dark green, leafy veggies (spinach, romaine, kale, collards, Swiss chard)[]

P[]([]) low-fat dairy products (1%, organic dairy products)

P[]([]) soy products (tofu, soy milk)

P[]([]) tablespoons of ground flaxseed

[][][][]([][]) cups a day of green tea (hot or iced)

[] 1 tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil

M[]W[](F[]) fatty fish (salmon, mackerel, white tuna, sardines, herring) very lean red meat, size of a deck of playing cards)

M[]W[]F[] handful of nuts (Hazel nuts, also called Filberts, Almond slices)

M[]shiitake mushrooms

M[]fresh or water-packed artichokes

Garlic, herbs, spices- used liberally (Sichuan Pepper, Oregano, Turmeric)

M[]T[]W[]Th[]F[](Sa[]Su[])walk

EXTRAS: AM Detox, Desitin, Magnesium, Concord Grape Juice, A (10,000 IU) & D (400 IU), Extra D (400IU) during daylight savings, CoQ-10 (200mg), ([][] black tea)

I just check it off as I eat it, a lot easier than other food diaries. The P means that if you do the shake you can check it off. The boxes in parentheses mean that those are BEYOND the minimum serving.






Rhonda

Andi 01-07-2007 07:52 AM

Thanks, Rhonda, for bringing this forward again.

Mary Jo 01-07-2007 06:04 PM

Thank you Rhonda. I appreciate it immensely.

Mary Jo

RhondaH 03-20-2007 11:28 PM

Time for a
 
BUMP. Take care and God bless.

Rhonda

Malena 03-21-2007 02:24 AM

I don't know....I'm vegetarian, it's now 10 years.....
I normally eat the food Rhonda suggests!
A friend of mine to fight against the cancer is now having a only organic/wholegrain diet (no sugar at all!!!). Maybe it could help, sure now she is very slim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MJo 03-21-2007 06:10 AM

Thank you for that simple checklist that I could print out. I need to keep things simple. MMMmmm Artichokes. I didn't know they were good for anything except taste. I still feel nervous about soy, since I understand it has estrogen properties. But so do chick peas, and I eat a lot of hummus. I asked my oncologist about chick peas and he said to eat hummus if I want, but everything in moderation. I am giving my vegetable garden beds a rest this year, but my brother tells me that planting beans will enrich the soil instead of taking away nutrients. So I plan to eat a lot of green beans this summer.

Karen Weixel 03-21-2007 07:57 AM

Thanks Rhonda. That list is very helpful.

Karen

Diane H 03-21-2007 09:08 AM

Thank you Rhonda! Great info, appreciate it, Hugs, Diane

hutchibk 03-21-2007 06:43 PM

This is great as a reference! Thanks.

I have been advised by my onc, my nutritionist, and the staff at the Young Breast Cancer Survivor's Programs at MDAnderson to stay away from supplementing my diet with Flax and Soy while in chemo.

And I found this answer to the question (especially in conjunction with Tamoxifen) at this website, as well as on other websites:
http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/RS/Communi...cists/faqs.htm

Q.
A few of my patients have asked me about flaxseed to prevent hot flushes while they are on tamoxifen. Should I recommend it?
A.
Flaxseed has multiple mechanisms of action, and may act as a phytoestrogen. It may antagonize tamoxifen or even stimulate breast cancer growth. Explain to your patients that this is a controversial area, with limited and conflicting evidence for both efficacy and safety. Because the safety is unknown, the current BC Cancer Agency recommendation is cautious. We advise against the use of any phytoestrogen supplements during chemotherapy or radiation treatments. This recommendation applies to flaxseed, as well as other supplements such as black cohosh, dong quai, evening primrose, red clover, soy and others.

Just FYI, but I have chosen to defer to the advice I have been given.

R.B. 04-29-2007 07:46 AM

Here is Rhondah's post.

The link seems to work OK.

I am afraid that whilst there is some emerging consensus in odd corners of the benefits of diet, which and what diet are much debated and so the only solution is to read as widely as time permits etc. You do not need to understand all the technical stuff to start with ( I still don't) just skim through and get the drift. You can always print bits out and ask you advisor.

Please discuss any dietary changes with your advisor and even more so whilst in treatment.

RB

Becky 04-29-2007 09:45 AM

Bringing this to the top for Nancy d

hutchibk 04-29-2007 02:42 PM

That sounds like what I eat just about all of the time! I guess I have been more on target than I realized. I stay pretty well away from most sugar...
except for dark chocolate about 3 x a week. I use stevia instead to sweeten cereal, tea, etc...

nancy d 04-30-2007 09:24 AM

Thanks to everyone for all the info. Nancy

Mary Jo 04-30-2007 06:20 PM

Hi Rhonda,

I was reading through the links you posted. I was very interested in the one about olive oil. Do you take olive oil just on it's own? Just take a teaspoonful like I take my fish oil? Or how? Also, the Olive Oil I have - (extra virgin) I keep in my pantry. It doesn't need to be refrigerated, does it?

Thanks for your help.

Mary Jo

RhondaH 05-01-2007 10:07 AM

Mary Jo
 
YEP...first thing in the morning I drink a TBS (just like medicine):), but I also cook with it (when baking I use canola oil) and use it for my salad dressing. I've read different opinions as to refrigerate or not, I keep mine next to my stove.

Rhonda

Lien 05-01-2007 11:03 AM

Dear all,
I don't want to spoil the fun, here, but I'm living proof that this diet doesn't guarantee anything.
Because of my severe food allergies, I can only eat the products on this list. No wheat, but brown rice, no nuts, no tuna, but everything else on the list I eat in copious quantities. I got Breastcancer anyway. I can't eat beef or pork, no coffee, tea, wine, sugar, beer, etc. A really healthy diet.

So don't blame yourself when you have a recurrance after you didn't stick to the above diet. I certainly helps to eat healthy, but I don't think it's as simple as that. If it were, I'd be very, very safe now.

Love
Jacqueline

LindaC 05-01-2007 04:14 PM

Thanks Rhonda for the info

Mary Jo 05-01-2007 06:16 PM

Hi Jacqueline,

I appreciate your post and understand how frustrating it must be to have done "all the right things" and still get breast cancer. It can happen - does happen - and none of us are to blame for the disease that we got. That being said, I think it's important to do everything we can to keep our bodies healthy. I don't think anyone here believes that a recurrence isn't possible BUT when studies do show benefits of doing certain things than it's definitely something we should be doing. It just makes sense to treat our bodies the way they were meant to be treated. It could only make our bodies healthier and stronger and that is always a good thing. No matter what. Along with that - I think living life with a positive, encouraging spirit to all we meet is also beneficial. We were put on this earth for a reason and encouraging and loving one another makes this life a special palce to be. I love life. Even having had breast cancer and all that went with that. It's taught me much and made me a better person.

Love your "sister" on this journey.

Mary Jo
"For we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him and were called according to His purpose" Romans 8:28

momdeeco 05-01-2007 07:17 PM

I was told at a breast cancer meeting that you shouldn't cook with Olive Oil. When it becomes hot it is carcinogen. The gal was a nutritionist from Mt. Zion Cancer Center. (Rachel Ray cooks with it all the time) Anyone else ever heard of this.

RhondaH 06-08-2007 06:42 PM

Bump up. Take care and God bless.

Rhonda

RhondaH 07-13-2007 10:21 AM

Bump up***also Diana Dyer has a new blog with GREAT info***
 
http://www.dianadyer.blogspot.com/

Rhonda

Odette 07-13-2007 11:34 AM

Karla,

I have been wondering about this myself!
What I try to do: add the olive oil at the end to the steamed or cooked food.

Odette

CLTann 07-13-2007 03:10 PM

How confusing! Yesterday, we had a report from Japanese research people concluding that soy derivatives are safe. Now the MD Anderson people say avoid soy. Olive oil has been tauted as the good oil. Here, we just learned on heating it is a carcinogen. I have been a fatty acid chemist and I could not understand the heated olive oil can become carcinogen. It is not the chemistry I have learned.

hutchibk 07-13-2007 05:29 PM

HI CL - I have learned over the years that heating almost anything with a high heat and or direct heat can cause carcinogens that shouldn't be ingested. Acrylamide to be specific. I have learned that even burned toast is a bad idea. All meats and fish if heated with a direct high heat cause carcinogens, so grilling or blackening is not healthy...

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...ylamideinfoods

From what I have learned from dietary folks is that no oil should be heated to smoking, even if the recipe tells you to. EVOO is too fragile to use as a primary cooking oil. Use other oil (canola perhaps) for higher heat sauteing and cooking. I use some olive oil for cooking, but I also take 3 tbl spoons of it a day, as it is suspected to be active against Her2neu, and it can't possibly hurt me!
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050219/food.asp

and

<li class="body">Health Canada scientists say they have found that adding rosemary can reduce acrylamide levels in both home fries and commercial potato chips by about 25 per cent, while other anti-oxidants had little to no impact. The research, published in the Journal of the American Chemical Society, also found that potato slices that were fried with olive oil had 50 per cent higher acrylamide levels than those fried with corn oil, although there appears to be little difference between frying in cheap processed olive oil and more expensive virgin olive oil, in terms of acrylamide levels. <li class="body">"Acrylamide Advice: Don’t Burn Your Toast" includes audio of an expert explaining how the risk of acrylamide can be reduced by using different cooking methods.
from http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/f...de/can_do.html

Lauriesh 08-07-2007 05:31 AM

bump

Laurie

RhondaH 09-12-2007 03:02 AM

Time for a
 
bump:) Take care and God bless.

Rhonda

RhondaH 10-11-2007 09:06 AM

Time for a...
 
bump.

Rhonda

RhondaH 12-09-2007 04:59 AM

Time for another bump
 
AND I'm attaching Diana's blog. Of particular interest to me as I'm a BIGGER advocate of the "balance" theory and have either organic beef or pork once or twice a week (usually 2 fish, 2 vegetarian and 2 beef/pork a week and leftovers thereafter) and she is NOW advocating organic beef due to the high amount of Omega 3 (See Oct. 18th entry). I'm a true blue Flexitarian who happens to eat a LOT of whole fruits and veggies and tends to believe that it's the "processing" of food (all the prepak food isn't even what is SAYS), our HUGE caloric intake (super size this, that and the other) AND our sedentary lifestyle (I think of BOTH my grandmothers who lived to be 91 and while neither one was particulary "svelt"...actually the one was a LARGE burly German woman...they both were born in a time (1892 and 1902) where you COOKED your food, CLEANED your house (sorry, but I can't help believing that all the "conveniences" to make our life easier has come with a price) and worked outside (i.e gardening, farming, building etc.). Also, another thought provoking book is the Omnivores Dilema...heavy, but interesting reading. Take care.

Rhonda

http://dianadyer.blogspot.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexitarianism

http://www.michaelpollan.com/omnivore.php

Mary Jo 12-09-2007 05:15 AM

Thanks Rhonda. Those bumps are always beneficial as they are gentle reminders to us to pay attention to what we do for good health. So important.

I agree with what you said. I, too, believe that all our modern conveniences come with a price. A huge one. I believe all the pre-packaged foods, preservatives, dyes etc. are killing us. That being said, I will admit, I don't "cook" like it sounds you do but I do eat way less - hungry eat - eat veggies - grains - try to stay away from trans fat - fast food and exercise. It just feels better.

Thanks again for the gentle reminder Rhonda.

Blessings of Peace for your Sunday,

Mary Jo

RhondaH 01-23-2008 10:05 AM

After reading Lani's post, thought it was time...
 
for a BUMP.

Rhonda

RhondaH 04-29-2008 07:27 AM

Gotta...
 
BUMP this up...

Alaska Laura 05-07-2008 10:48 PM

The olive oil thing is news to me; I heard a naturopath doctor speak a few weeks ago, and acceptable oils were olive oil (in the can not bottle), and I can't remember the other oils, but I think there was canola was one of them.

A good site with nutrition info and recipes is at www.aicr.org

R.B. 05-08-2008 03:31 PM

Hi Alaska Laura,

This thread look at Omega 3s and Sixes.

http://her2support.org/vbulletin/sho...ght=greek+diet

Canola is quite nigh in Omega 3 which may have been why it was suggested at the lecture you attended.

RB

Alaska Laura 05-08-2008 05:01 PM

Well thank you RB, I'll check it out! It is that dang chemo brain, if I don't write things down, it goes right out my head I swear!

Omega 3's were strongly recommended (I remember, I remember LOL) and we were told to freeze our fish oil pills, that way we wouldn't burp them, and that the fish oil caplets had to be made out of anchovies, sardines or other wild small fish to get the best quality.

karen z 05-08-2008 08:20 PM

Alaska Laura,
Thanks for posting the www.aicr.org site. Also, I visited your laurasjourney site and just wanted to tell you that it is wonderful. Your writing will not only help you, but many others as well.
karen z

Alaska Laura 05-08-2008 08:45 PM

You're welcome, and thank you :D

R.B. 05-09-2008 01:18 AM

You are welcome Alaska Laura.

Re repeating; the best quality oils are better refined these days, almost tasteless and do not tend to repeat.

Omega 3s are essential to brain structure and function.


RB

R.B. 05-09-2008 01:24 AM

You are welcome Alaska Laura.

I found your site too. Great graphics and well laid out with a twist of irony. Thank you for reminding me of the value of images as a basis fro communication.

Re repeating; the best quality oils are better refined these days, almost tasteless and do not tend to repeat.

Omega 3s are essential to brain structure and function.


RB

ElaineM 05-09-2008 10:59 AM

breast cancer diet
 
Hi,
Thanks. I am always trying to improve my diet. I appreciate your contribution very much.

Becky 05-26-2008 04:06 PM

Bumping up


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