Herceptin---Did you know?

[Joanne S]

Herceptin, the humanized antibody against HER2 is produced by a mammalian cell (Chinese Hamster Ovary [CHO]) suspension culture in a nutrient medium containing the antibiotic gentamicin.

Chinese Hamster Ovary---interesting----how'd they figure that out?

[PinkGirl]

I wonder what's wrong with the ovaries in all the other nationalities of hamsters? I hope the ones from China don't have lead in them!http://her2support.org/vbulletin/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Jean]

Haha Pinkgirl,
Just the hamsters that draw ......with color....

Jean

[Joanne S]

You girls have a great sense of humor. And we all now that's the best medicine.

I am curious, What does Ki-67 40% mean? Also what does TOPO mean? Thanks!

[Adriana Mangus]

Dear Joanne: Interesting?? Where did you obtain this info?
Is there a website we can go to and research the info?.

Thank you.

[Joanne S]

http://www.gene.com/gene/products/information/oncology/herceptin/insert.jsp#pharmacology

I found this information on the Genentech website---look under the DESCRIPTION section.
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DESCRIPTION
HERCEPTIN (Trastuzumab) is a recombinant DNA-derived humanized monoclonal antibody that selectively binds with high affinity in a cell-based assay (Kd = 5 nM) to the extracellular domain of the human epidermal growth factor receptor 2 protein, HER2<SUP>1 (http://www.gene.com/gene/products/information/oncology/herceptin/insert.jsp#references),2 (http://www.gene.com/gene/products/information/oncology/herceptin/insert.jsp#references)</SUP>. The antibody is an IgG<SUB>1</SUB> kappa that contains human framework regions with the complementarity-determining regions of a murine antibody (4D5) that binds to HER2.
The humanized antibody against HER2 is produced by a mammalian cell (Chinese Hamster Ovary [CHO]) suspension culture in a nutrient medium containing the antibiotic gentamicin. Gentamicin is not detectable in the final product.
HERCEPTIN is a sterile, white to pale yellow, preservative-free lyophilized powder for intravenous (IV) administration. The nominal content of each HERCEPTIN vial is 440 mg Trastuzumab, 400 mg http://www.gene.com/gene/products/information/images/alpha.gif,http://www.gene.com/gene/products/information/images/alpha.gif-trehalose dihydrate, 9.9 mg L-histidine HCl, 6.4 mg L-histidine, and 1.8 mg polysorbate 20, USP. Reconstitution with 20 mL of the supplied Bacteriostatic Water for Injection (BWFI), USP, containing 1.1% benzyl alcohol as a preservative, yields a multi-dose solution containing 21 mg/mL Trastuzumab, at a pH of approximately 6.
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Trastuzumab (Herceptin® Official Website (http://www.herceptin.com/) :: Targeting Tumors (http://www.targetingtumors.com/?cat=4) :: Latest News (http://news.google.com/news?q=herceptin) )
What It Is: Recombinant DNA-derived humanized monoclonal antibody.
Target: Extracellular domain of the human epidermal growth factor receptor 2 protein, HER2.
Source: Humanized antibody against HER2 produced by Chinese Hamster Ovary (CHO) suspension culture.
Approved Indications: Combination adjuvant treatment of HER2‑overexpressing, node‑positive breast cancer, single agent therapy of metastatic breast cancer overexpressing the HER2 protein with prior chemotherapy for metastatic disease, First-line combination treatment of metastatic breast cancer overexpressing HER2 protein. See Package Insert (http://www.gene.com/gene/products/information/oncology/herceptin/insert.jsp).
Currently Active Clinical Trials from ClinicalTrials.gov (http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/search?term=trastuzumab).-------------------------------------------------------------------
And:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a699019.html

Before administering trastuzumab,

tell your doctor and pharmacist if you are allergic to trastuzumab, Chinese hamster ovary cell proteins, benzyl alcohol, or any other drugs.

[Brenda_D]

Oh my! How would you know if you're allergic to Chinese hamster ovary cell proteins?
:))

[Joanne S]

Brenda, Funny! ----but maybe not so funny if you are allergic!

[MJo]

Ladies, I took this seriously and had my allergist test me for an allergy to mice before I would take Herceptin. Negative, fortunately. I was frightened when I read that women allergic to mice or chinese hamsters (!!) should not take Herceptin. I think I remember my oncologist told me that the petri dishes are lined with mice embryos, or something like that. I think that's why some of us have to load up on benedryl and steroids for Herceptin -- mouse allergy!

[PinkGirl]

I wonder if you can be allergic to Chinese hamster ovary cell protein, and not be allergic to the rest of the hamster. Hmmm... that would mean you can be allergic to some hamster parts and not to others. THIS IS MY FINAL POST TO THIS THREAD(MAYBE)

[SoCalGal]

Stir-fry hamster with snow peas. (Gluten free of course).

Usually I have chicken but this was both healthier and tastier.

[PinkGirl]

Was it a domestic hamster or an import?

[rentrac]

Does it taste like chicken? Hope it wasn't laced with melamine - just served on melamine plates instead! Like hamsters and mice under stress, the very thought makes me want to clean my whiskers - if i hadn't just had them waxed (dang that surgical menopause!)

[PinkGirl]

Maybe the whiskers don't come from the early menopause - maybe we grow them because we have hamster parts in us now. Maybe we're all going to start to look like hamsters! We can call ourselves HH - for Herceptin Hamsters.

[Mary Jo]

Hahahahahahahahaha - Good one pinkgirl! http://www.her2support.org/vbulletin/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Andrea Barnett Budin]

We do all know that Premarin comes from pregnant mare's urine, don't we? I remember that one clearly. Who ate the first lobster? Who actually thought of cooking it and cracking it open? I take Byetta for high blood sugar. It comes from a particular desert lizard's saliva. Who'd of thunk it?! Oh, and though my eyebrows never grew back after Taxotere, and only a few lashes popped out again -- I do have whiskers instead. Thought it was a post-menopausal thing. Now it occurs to me that it could well be the hamster in me. Been on Vit H since '98! Never thought I liked the mousy little rodents. I've decided to rethink my position on that. After all -- THEY'VE SAVED MY LIFE! Along w/Slamon, Pegram, Genentech et al...
Andi

[rentrac]

Maybe we're now blood brothers/ er... sisters! Explains why I keep referring to my hair as my pelt and find I'm irresistably attracted to those little hamster wheels at Petsmart! Sorry, gotta run. There's some great smoked cheddar that seems to be calling me.

[Kathy S in Tokyo]

I'm still on 3ks of Taxol and one week off with my weekly Herceptin (it's really working well!) and don't have whiskers but do have more hair (not much though) on my head than I did with last year's CEF-Taxotere regime.

Maybe I should get a big wheel to run in and lose some of this chemo/middle aged/stress(comfort eating) weight.

Some of the sleepless nights (not recently) may have been form the nocturnal hamster habits too.

Time for some sunflower seeds. Thanks for all the laughs today.

[rentrac]

THAT'S IT! Now I understand why I've been hoarding seedy crackers to go with my cheese! And all along I thought the insomnia was from the Tykerb!

[hutchibk]

I think my front teeth grew a little longer when I was on Hamceptin. I know my hair was a lot softer, especially on my back...


Chinese Hamsters

Species: Cricetus griseus Other Names: Striped Hamster or Chinese Striped Hamster. Chinese hamsters are not a true dwarf hamster, but are of a similar size as the other dwarf hamsters.

Expected Life Span: 2.5 - 3 years.

Size: A small slender hamster that reaches an adult size of about 4 inches (10 cm). This means they are small enough to squeeze through the bars on many hamster cages so an aquarium is a safer choice for housing.
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Behavior and Temperament: Chinese hamsters are nocturnal but may be active for short times during the day too. They are somewhat timid but are generally quite good-natured and rarely nip. Because they are so small and quick they can be a real challenge to handle, though, especially for kids. They are very active and require a large cage to prevent boredom.

Social Characteristics: There is some disagreement among experts on this point. As they mature, Chinese hamsters, especially females, may become quite aggressive with others and may need to be separated. However, other owners have managed to keep them in pairs or groupings, which requires a fair amount of space (and only if introduced at a young age). To be on the safe side, plan on housing Chinese hamsters separately, only keeping them together if they show no signs of aggression.

Appearance: The natural coloration of Chinese hamsters is agouti (hairs are banded with light and dark colors), with a dark brown color on their backs, a black dorsal line (along their spine), and ivory colored bellies. The only other pattern seen is a dominant spot (white coat with patches or spots of color). Chinese hamsters have a tail, about an inch long and hairless. Sometimes these are called rat-like or mouse-like hamsters due to their slender appearance and the fact that they have a tail.

Notes about Care: Basic care is like that of other hamsters. As mentioned above, a wire hamster cage may not be escape proof so an aquarium or other solid sided cage with a secure top is preferable, the larger the better. Avoid cedar or pine wood shavings, and keep cages well cleaned though to prevent ammonia build-up from accumulated urine as ventilation is diminished with solid sided housing. Feed a good quality hamster food supplemented with small amounts of fresh foods.

Additional Notes: Chinese hamsters are not very commonly bred and can be hard to find. They are also restricted in some places, such as the state of California where a permit is required to keep them.

[MJo]

In gratitude, maybe we should all adopt a hamster and give it a wonderful life. At my cancer center you can buy a brick for a pathway in memory of a loved one, in honor of a family or loved one, etc. I told my oncologist I am going to buy a brick and write "With gratitude to laboratory rats." Those of us who received taxol could all plant a ewe tree in our yards and raise a castor bean garden.

[PinkGirl]

Thanks Brenda, for all the Chinese hamster info. I guess we should all become educated about the little rodents because, as Andi mentioned, the little critters are keeping us alive. Taking on hamster characteristics is a small price to pay. Just think, if we had all this info earlier, it would have explained so much........the pre-meds for hamster allergies, the hamster whiskers we are all growing, our nocturnal habits and craving cheese and crackers. I wonder if those little hamsters eat during the night - I do.
I was relieved to read that the Chinese hamster is active for short times during the day - just like me! I wonder if they have any pre-disposition to compulsive/obsessive behaviour -- I can't seem to drag myself away from this thread!!!

[hutchibk]

They are nocturnal - do you think that could explain the sleeplessness from Herceptin? LOL

[Andrea Barnett Budin]

HAMCEPTIN! I love that, Brenda! Thanks for all the juicy facts re Chinese hamsters. I eat a turkey and Virginia HAM sandwich for lunch very often. Hmmm... Any connection there, ya think? I do believe that I have been obsessive/compulsive since foever. Long before Hamceptin, but -- my memory cannot be relied on, I have grimly learned. I adore laughing w/all you gals! Humor is the only way to face this dastardly disease.

After my mastectomy I found myself wondering if I could still do the breast stroke? I swear, the thought occurred suddenly. I pondered if I could still wear a double-breasted jacket. And, I was literally shocked to find that when I went for my mammography, post mastec, I was rewarded w/a bargain rate! UNILATERAL mammog??? You've got to be kidding me. You're not going to check my new tram flap breast?????? *I* think of that boob as a boob. *They* apparently think of it as *stomach tissue* I reported to Paul, astounded by the revelation. I asked him -- does that mean if GOD FORBID A HUNDRED GEZILLION TIMES they found canser in my left breast, I'd have *stomach canser*?????? Paul and I had a good laugh over that!!

BTW -- while in NY 9/5-10 I had my every 6 mnth transvaginal pelvic sonogram. AND MY OVARIES WERE PRONOUNCED *BEAUTIFUL*! THE very nicest compliment I have ever received!! And all else "looks the same", which is a good thing. A very good thing. Going for Hamceptin Fri... Have a rotten cold. Am always amazed when I get one, which is not often (but I did just fly in a petri dish of germs and stagnant air) that *JUST* a cold can feel so awwwwful! I am beyond fatigued (which is my new normal in genl). Low FOR ME red blood cell count and no more Aranesp, as I've been boosted by since '98, unless I dip below 11. Or is it now 10? 13-15 works for me, but it is a distant memory and an unattainable dream now I suppose. Such scary reports. Cancer center is being extremely careful. And besides, they tell me -- I'm not a chemo patient. I go to the chemo room and am accessed by a chemo nurse but I am receiving a *monoclonal antibody*. I get that. So, where is the monoclonal antibody room anyway??? And why don't they respect my low energy?! Well, we're all tired, they tell me. I get dressed and I need to lie down. Oh. I'm not *that* tired, I'm told w/fresh recognition. But soon they forget.

Going ev 3 wks for my Hamceptin is a joy, despite the fact that it is given at the canser center and I am surrounded by chemo patients who are where I was several X. My compassion for them is enormous, naturally. I realize that I am the healthiest patient in the room, for the most part. I am daily humbly grateful for that *gift*, to be sure! But, I am still a bc survivor who faces the bc drama all day, every day. True, I choose to do it generally w/joy and serenity, but still...

You know me -- always long-winded, w/much to share. Sorry if I'm digressing/rambling, but...
Had a stationery bike that I moved from Manhasset, Long Island to Boca and finally gave away. It remained stationery at all times. But now I'm thinking I'd love a WHEEL to tread, all of a sudden, upon reading this hilarious, yet informative, thread!
LET'S KEEP ON SMILING LADIES! It's the only route to joy and wellness I am sure. LAUGHING OUT LOUD every day is mandatory to NED. http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/gstres/thghts/smileJust love y'all!!
Andi http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201e05fca/08

[PinkGirl]

I didn't even make the connection until I read Andi's post about her stationery bike being stationery all the time. About a month ago, I purchased a new bike. I didn't know what came over me, to want to spin some wheels around. Now I know -- it's the hamster in me. So much is coming to light now that I know what was shot into my veins for a year.

[Believe51]

I LOVE ALL OF YOU SILLY GIRLS, THIS POST GAVE ME THE CHUCKLES I YEARNED FOR TODAY (I LAUGHED OUT LOUD)!!! IT ALSO LEARNED ME SOMETHIN'!!

KEEP SMILING MY LOVES, I WILL UPDATE YOU TOMORROW. UNTIL THEN I AM HEADING OUT FOR SOME QUICK ERRANDS SO I CAN ENJOY THE CANDLES I LIGHT EVERY DAY AND NIGHT FOR ALL OF US.

SILLY GIRLS!!!!

HUGS, PRAYERS AND PEACEFUL THOUGHTS GOING OUT TO YOU ALL!!

Eternally Grateful For Each & Every One Of You.>>Believe51

P.S. Flori, think you could get your hands on the recipe?? I am a vegetarian but I am open to new recipes!! LOL

and Brenda, that explains my whiskers!! (thought it was due to my hysterectomy!!) LOL

[PinkGirl]

Congratulations Andi on having your ovaries declared beautiful. I hope you realize that you can't take all the credit for them.... now that you know you are being injected with hamster ovaries... most likely your ovaries have been affected or enhanced in some way by the hamsters. Sorry you have to get your hamceptin in the chemo room and not in a monoclonal antibody room. Maybe we should be requesting our treatments be done in the hamster/rat lab -- that way the Chinese hamster ovaries will be nice and fresh.... Good night

[Joanne S]

dance the night away! http://www.hampsterdance.com/images/gerbil.gif http://www.hampsterdance.com/images/hamwalk.gif http://www.hampsterdance.com/images/anin.gif

[Joanne S]

http://www.hampsterdance.com/images/hamu.gif <<<<<< Pink Girl

[PinkGirl]

Glad you chose a chubby little hamster -- looks just like me !! Wish I could do aerobics like that....

[Andrea Barnett Budin]

Joanne! LOVE the visual effects. I will think of them tmrrw as I am infused with *happy Chinese Hamster ovaries*, and I will think of you, and all my fabulous, fun Soul Sisters in the *club*! Thanks for that...

[hutchibk]

I will toast the Chinese Hamsters tonight when at dinner with friends! I do prefer drinking from a straw... like the ones for the water bottle in a hamster cage, wonder if there is a connection? Might look funny drinking my beer through a straw, though. I'm not in my 20's anymore. LOL

[PinkGirl]

Hi Everyone
I have an appointment this PM with my Optometrist. It's time to have my yearly check-up. Before my canser adventure, I had 20/20 vision. After I finished Hamceptin, I needed glasses !! Just another thing that happened to me that is hamster-related, but who knew ??? The poor eyesight can also account for the increased sense of smell we get....those little rodents have very poor eyesight, compensated by a keen sense of smell and excellent hearing. I'll probably need my prescription changed.....

[madubois63]

This is soooo funny - thanks for the laugh. I received lots of Hamceptin and horse serum. What does that make me????????????

[PinkGirl]

Madame Dubois, you have received both hamster and horse parts! Are you by chance a Sagittarius? I'm not sure what kind of advice to give you, other than to watch out for cravings for oats and big bales of hay. If we all start to grow hamster tails, yours will be an interesting combo. Gotta go to the eye doc now...........

[hutchibk]

MJo - Taxol and castor bean plants??? wow... castor bean plants are supposed to be really poisonous, right?

[TriciaK]

Dear fellow Chinese Hamsterians: I've just read all your posts and haven't had such a good laugh in days! You are all delightfully crazy! I wondered why my nose keeps twitching, and I have little whiskers growing, too. And the nocturnal craving for seeded crakers and cheese---I can relate to that! Does this mean we can't live with cats anymore? As long as we can keep laughing, we'll make it! Hugs, Tricia

[PinkGirl]

my Optometrist confirmed it today. She gave me a thorough examination and declared at the end that I now have rodent eyes. What next ???

[PinkGirl]

Tricia -- I think we'll be okay with cats because of the size difference. Unfortunately, our donor hamsters are at a real disadvantage size wise. I think we'll be the biggest hamsters those cats ever saw !!

[harrie]

Hmmmmm...Chinese hamster ovary....MAYBE that is why I just happen to notice today when I was looking at my chin in the car mirror....I have this fine fuzz that I have on my chin now!!! I don't remember having that prior to chemo and herceptin...
LOL!!!!!!

[myraazzopardi]

Hello all. My grandaughter has just reminded me that when my hair was growing back it was like her hamsters fur. She says it still is the same. Umm I wonder.

[StephN]

Oh, ya, Taxol with a side of mouse - worked well for me against those liver mets!
And I don't care for liver, so there must be some synergy with extract of Yew tree and extract of little furry creature that is good against mutant ninja deadly cells.

Better to think this way, like our drugs are pets, rather than some high flown concoction created in a lab by mysterious wizards in steamy cauldrons.

On my way now for my umpteenth vitamin H dose. No benedryl needed. Now if it was from RABBIT ovaries - I would be in trouble!

[MJo]

BHutch... Doctor told me taxol is mixed with a castor bean solution. It's all poison! So we get the chance to be allergic to evergreens or castor beans. Add mice when we take Herceptin. As for our furry friends, I've read that transplant patients take on some characteristics of their donors. The urge to eat spicy food and ride a Harley, for instance, when you have the donor heart of a Hell's Angel who loved Tex-Mex food. If Herceptin slipped me some Chinese hamster cells, well ..... I filled the bird feeder yesterday and had no urge to chew on the seeds. No urge to see the Great Wall either. So far so good.

[PinkGirl]

I was thinking about buying a little stuffed animal hamster/mouse/rat and a journal. What do you think about mailing this hamster and journal around the world. I was thinking of taking some photos of the hamster and me and of my "life". It would be a good way to get to know more about each other.
Then I will mail her and the journal to the next person who wants her for a visit. What do you all think???

[PinkGirl]

My last post was a serious question - just in case any of you think I have officially gone "hamster crazy". I think it would be fun to mail this journal around to everyone.

[harrie]

I think that is a great idea! I would do it!!

[Andrea Barnett Budin]

I'd be happy to welcome and entertain the little desert creature and take some pics and journal -- then send her, and the complete package, on its way! A group activity! A bonding thing. Love it, Pinkie!
I goggled CHO (Chinese Hamster Ovaries). This hamster originated in Southern China and Mongolia and are commonly used as lab animals -- for biological and medical research. Ie re genetics, gene expression "particularly expression of recombinant (rapidly growing) proteins"!


I like the kind you don't have to feed or cage. The perfect pet. A huggy hamster.


Of course -- we must *name* her something cool... How do you like BRAVEHEART?!!

Just thinking out loud. So to speak...
Andi http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/peeps-emt/love/clips/clip1-love2

[PinkGirl]

I like Braveheart. I was also thinking about Warrior Woman. I also thought about "H" names like Harmony Hamster, Honey Hamster, Hope Hamster. Any other ideas???

[PinkGirl]

I like all the names you suggested, especially ChangChang meaning Flourishing. But.....I keep going back to your initial one - Braveheart.
She could be BraveHeart Hamster, or Brave Heart Hamster, or Ms. B.H. Hamster.

I'm going to start working on the project today. I have to get her a passport or maybe just a visa, and she needs some luggage. I hope she doesn't have any trouble flying to Canada. Ever since that SARS crisis, our airport security is very cautious about visitors from China !!

I just got home on Friday from a week in the big city. I had my scans done and then we decided to stay for a few more days and visit a Casino. I have tons to do today (unpacking, laundry, groceries) but I think I'll work on the Hamster instead.....sounds like more fun. I'll keep you posted.

[Andrea Barnett Budin]

I GUESS I'M OFFICIALLY TOTALLY LOSING IT. I posted this under Boobette...



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My Pink one... Looked up Chinese girls' names. Must be a slow day. I just feel so sapped of energy (low RBC) that my brain is too foggy to work on my book. So this is how I am occupying my time. I am successfully amusing myself. These are what I found for our Chinese Hampster -- names and meanings:

BO -- PRECIOUS
NUWA -- MOTHER GODDESS
CHANGCHANG -- FLOURISHING
JINGHUA -- SITUATION SPLENDID
HALO -- ANGELIC


HAPPY THOUGHTS...http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201e05fca/08
Andi


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[Catherine]

This may be too much....but my husband and I always liked Dr. Demento....He played Hamster love as a parody to Muskrat Love.... So here are the lyrics if you can stand them. I love that our little mascot will soon travel the world once "she" gets her passport. Catherine<TABLE id=Table1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=400 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px; BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid"><TABLE id=tblfacts style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lemonchiffon" vAlign=top align=left>Parody Of "Muskrat Love" by The Captain and Tennille (peterpuck9) (http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/madspace.aspx?id=117)


</TD></TR><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lemonchiffon" vAlign=top align=left>Song was unreleased until "Dr. Demento's 30th Anniversary Collection" (peterpuck9) (http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/madspace.aspx?id=117)


</TD></TR><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lemonchiffon" vAlign=top align=left>First heard on DrD KMET show of 11/06/1977 (Tim P. Ryan) (http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/madspace.aspx?id=12)


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Hamster, hamster by candle light.

Do it in a casserole is doing it right.

When they're in season, they're pretty pleasin'.

Hamster sandwich, hamster and cheese.

Hamster sandwiches with mayoneeze,

are delicious, and so nutritious.



You can dice, you can slice and fillet them.

Cut off their heads and sauté them.

And into the oven you shove,

smells like hamster love.



Hamster curry, or pickled toes,

Australian hamster tails, any good chef knows

how to make them, or just shake and bake them.

For breakfast, for lunch or while dining,

as a snack munch their deep-fried fur lining.

Into your mouth with a shove,

tastes like hamster love.



For breakfast, for lunch or while dining,

as a snack munch their deep-fried fur lining.

Into your mouth with a shove,

tastes like hamster love.



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[mts]

Hamster ovaries... well Premarin comes from urine of pregnant mares...
its all in the hormones !

maria

[myraazzopardi]

Hello girls. Dont you think we are hamming this a little too much. I am only peeved cos I got the hamster hair and my lashes are not growing anymore after I bought ecological organic (what's it called lash paint) Mascara thats it, I am having memory loss on herceptin after all. I am enjoying these fun emails, how about yoos. Myra. A.

[myraazzopardi]

Hi Andi. You are fantastic. Hope you dont mind copied and saved your history records to give me hope. Lots of happiness to you.

[PinkGirl]

Well, the hamster arrived yesterday from China. She has a tag on her butt that proves her origin. It was presumptuous of me to think that we could name her. She already has a name --- it's Tiptoe. All of her necessary documents were in her journal and she didn't have any problems getting into Canada - no sign of a cough or fever. I think she'll stay with me for a week or two and then I'll send her to Andi. She's already complaining about the weather here, so I'll send her somewhere warmer. Don't worry if you don't hear from me for awhile - it would be rude to ignore my guest.
:) :) :)

[MJo]

Hamster is welcome to visit me any time. I will treat her right. I will not slap her between two slices of bread. MJO

[PinkGirl]

Hi everyone
I'm glad more of you are looking forward to a visit from Tiptoe. She's been with me for 2 days and she hasn't been any trouble - except for getting under my feet. She's looking forward to her travels around North America, maybe around the world, and she is definitely not camera shy.

[Andrea Barnett Budin]

Pinkie, Could you post a picture of Tiptoe? What's her birth date? WELCOME TO THE WORLD, LITTLE ONE.

[PinkGirl]

Andi, Her butt tag says she was born in China in 1999. I didn't know hamsters lived that long, but maybe she's some kind of survivor. I don't know how to post a picture, but I will if someone explains how to do it.

[Andrea Barnett Budin]

TIPTOE is definitely A SURVIVOR. I believe I read that *statistics SAY* hamsters generally live for 3 years! WAY TO GO, TIPTOE! Come join the 1% club w/me. In fact, every one come join me!!!!!!!!!

The way I posted my pic is the idiot's way. I sent it to Joe, and pleaded for help. Actually, correct that, I had my son-in-law send it to Joe and then I pleaded for his help. You need to take a pic and load it into the computer. Oh dear. It sounds so complex.

Anybody have a smarter more savvy route?????
Andi http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201e05fca/06